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Garywt 04-17-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2084880)
That crap won’t happen in my immediate family

Really? Is suicide better?

rsmurano 04-17-2022 06:51 PM

I know many people that play sports that stopped buying Nike many years ago when Nike started using Kaepernick for their ads. I will not support any company that supports ex-guys competing in womens sports, cancel culture works both ways.

thevillages2013 04-17-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 2084639)
To a great extent Professional sport salaries are a refections of the amount of money that it brings into the owners and the organization that runs them. Women sports are just not not viewed or produce near the same revenue that men sports do. Example, there are no professional football teams and their basketball teams suffer from revemue short falls. I guess you could put this inder natural selection, not because of prejudice.

Summed up perfectly

Bill14564 04-17-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2084927)
Hey Mr Smart guy you might want to check your definition of immediate family. If you are so woke you should know the definition. It may have changed a little since the 1940’s:popcorn:

Which definition would you prefer, Merriam-Webster's or the Code of Federal Regulations (1973)?

Woke? It would seem you don't know the meaning of that word either.

kcrazorbackfan 04-17-2022 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 2084571)
Is it a problem when a woman sporting a ***** uses the men's room with you? And if it s why are you looking?

I DO NOT go into public bathrooms unless it’s a single stall and I can lock the doors; it’s one less place where I don’t have to deal with them.

Are you looking?

Laker14 04-17-2022 07:48 PM

I am sympathetic to the struggle of gender identity in this culture. I don't understand it, but that doesn't mean I can't be sympathetic. I agree that the effects of male hormones beyond the onset of puberty give a male-to-female athlete an unfair advantage over non-transgender women. Life is full of tough choices and IMO, if a person makes a decision to go male-to-female transgender, that person should have to accept that competing against women in gender specific sports is just one of the things they'll have to give up.
Beyond that, I don't get the antipathy that is obvious in so many of these posts towards transgenders.

Give people a break. Live and let live. Don't go out of your way to make others' lives, lives you know nothing about, even more difficult.

Is that so hard to do?

heidyho 04-17-2022 07:54 PM

Who cares what you like. Get a life.

John Mayes 04-17-2022 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2084736)
It's much more than that. Billy Gene King in tennis proved that. As a society moves forward it CONFERS THE BLESSING of freedom onto its 2nd class citizens.........because of race or because of being women. At this point in history, the US should move FORWARD toward equal pay for women in sports and everywhere. Or we could go "Handmaiden's Tale" back to burkas and women not being allowed to drive cars. That is unlikely but, it is done now in Afghanistan and the US has some responsibility for that pathetic development. GENDER issues are important issues worldwide!
.........It would be nice if mothers and female power put a stop to autocracy in Russia soon!

WTH??? Not sure that has anything to do with my post.

DaleDivine 04-17-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2084843)
Please show me where this has ever happened (except in your imagination)...

Michelle Wie tried...
:ohdear::ohdear:

gemini5001 04-17-2022 08:27 PM

Going EITHER WAY may double your chances of scoring a date on a Friday night but NOT GOOD in politics or business....lol

gemini5001 04-17-2022 08:33 PM

Thank you.
Agree wholeheartedly !

jdulej 04-17-2022 08:54 PM

Wow! I just came off another 30 day "go stand in the corner" penalty and see that nothing has changed. Not that I expected it to.

Number 10 GI 04-17-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2084892)
Please explain "woke" to us....(This should be good!!!:popcorn:)
Got a C note that says you get it wrong.......

"Woke" is mental illness, same as gender fluidity.

fdpaq0580 04-17-2022 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2084938)
I am sympathetic to the struggle of gender identity in this culture. I don't understand it, but that doesn't mean I can't be sympathetic. I agree that the effects of male hormones beyond the onset of puberty give a male-to-female athlete an unfair advantage over non-transgender women. Life is full of tough choices and IMO, if a person makes a decision to go male-to-female transgender, that person should have to accept that competing against women in gender specific sports is just one of the things they'll have to give up.
Beyond that, I don't get the antipathy that is obvious in so many of these posts towards transgenders.

Give people a break. Live and let live. Don't go out of your way to make others' lives, lives you know nothing about, even more difficult.

Is that so hard to do?

It is normal to feel uncomfortable and distrustful of things that are different. I have worked along side gay, lesbian, and found them friendly and capable as anyone. Some, in the beginning, may seem standoffish or unsure until they know how you are doing to treat them. Normal behavior in a new environment. This is my experience so far.
Straight or gay, I don't care. "Transgender", I don't care. I guess my feeling is that you can say what you would like to be, act the way you want to, but, sometimes you can't actually be what you would like to be. Your DNA is the determining factor of your physical gender. You can't change that. Surgery, hormones and drugs won't change your gender. The best you can do is mimic the other gender. A supposedly "transgender woman" is a actually an altered man, and not actually, genetically a woman. Transgender in humans is a lie.

MartinSE 04-17-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2084868)
Methinks it's YOU who doesn't understand the tax policy...

When 50% of the population pay ZERO federal income taxes (and actually get "refunds" for paying nothing), yes, we have a problem.

If you were really aware of Sweden's tax rates, you would know that EVERYONE pays. They also have a 25% VAT that EVERYONE pays..

In Sweden, MOST (not all) people pay only local tax which ranges between 29.08 and 35.15 per cent depending on municipality, on their annual income. In addition earners above a certain income threshold set by the Tax Agency also pay 20 per cent state tax.

The Swedish tax system includes a so-called basic deduction, a sum that is exempt from the taxable income. The sum differs depending on whether a person is under or over 65, see link above.

So, if you make less than the basic deduction you pay no taxes, sort of like here.

And for the VAT, the standard VAT rate for goods and services in Sweden is 25 per cent, but there are reduced rates of 12 per cent for foodstuffs and 6 percent for books, newspapers, passenger transport within Sweden.

So, lets take the high road, and say citizens in Sweden pay 55% (35% local and 20% state). On top some pay as much as 25% VAT. Kind of a "sales" tax which is sort of like sales tax here. Which runs depending on state between 8% and 12%(?) not sure.

Now, Federal tax rate goes from 0% to 35%, state tax rates vary, CA is highest at 12%, then 9000 local jurisdictions have local income tax up to 3%. So, add those up and your get 50% income tax max for US Citizens. (Let's not quibble over the 40,000 pages of Federal tax code and all the possible infinite variety of marginal rates).

Two things pop out in Sweden you pay more VATG than we pay in sales tax. Agreed.

Second using the highest rates, in the US and Sweden, in Sweden you would pay 55% income tax, and in the US you pay 50%. For that 5% you get Universal healthcare - well, not just you EVERYONE. You (everyone) also gets unemployment compensation, which benefit consists of two parts: a basic unemployment insurance and a voluntary income related benefit. If you retire you are covered by their state run pension plan, which unlike private pension plans in the US which trend to go bankrupt leaving workers holding the bag.

Anyway it goes on and on. The bottom line, Sweden pays MORE taxes, but if you include Heath Insurance in the US, we actually pay a LOT more than they do. And it covers everyone, not like here with 30 million Americans uninsured for healthcare, and vastly more under insured because of massive deductibles and not covered issues. And let's not go into how much better their healthcare outcomes are.

I am not sure what you point of bring up Sweden, but they are far better off than US citizen both in what they pay, and what they get for what they pay.

At least that is my humble opinion.


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