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coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2146598)
Somebody didn't read the thread...

More than a few people (myself included) have stated that your method DOES NOT WORK in their cars...
That is unfortunate for you. Sorry, but mine works every time. And......I HAVE read every post in this thread so far.

coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2146599)
I am very friendly and very careful at the gates whether I'm driving a car or golf cart. I much prefer to wait until all vehicular traffic is clear before I proceed in my golf cart when waiting at the gates. I also do not proceed when a car driver waves at me to proceed. Cars have the right of way in that case. I do not make eye contact and will wait to proceed when traffic is cleared.

coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2146631)
That may have been me. I was referring to someone tailgating on the way IN, not out. Didn't know about the red button? Didn't have a card? Just to lazy or prissy to roll down their own window? This one I could forgive, had a broken arm?
Oh sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were referring to exiting. The gates come down waaaaaaay too quickly at the entrance to a village. That is how these gates get knocked off. I would never ever attempt to "tailgate" a car on the way in.

coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:43 AM
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coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2146728)
Please feel free to leave this thread at your earliest convenience.
I know where you are coming from. I was also put off by that comment. He said and I quote......"This thread is like dog poop. It smells". Not nice.

coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2146742)
Odd that many others haven't mentioned replacing window motors. You aren't the only one rolling your window down, I know I do it all the time and most of the cars in front of me do also. With 70,000+ homes and all the traffic and all the gates and all the people going through those gates you would expect hundreds of motors to need replacing every year.

A system that did not require rolling down a window would be better. This system *might* work through the window (it does for some). Perhaps once this upgrade is completed a mirror device will be investigated but it is sure to come with a cost both to the CDDs/PWAC and to each resident who desires to use it.
I will be happy to pay for the convenience of not needing to use any card.

coffeebean 10-15-2022 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2146787)
As I started this thread to alert Villagers about changes to the gate system, let me make these three points to present my current take on this situation at this moment in time.

If the numbers presented pan out to be true for future cost savings, the District CDDs should save money on some maintenance costs by making this change.

Will the cloned cards work after these changes are made? I still am not sure from the replays received from District staff and am still waiting on the answer to this question. “Are you going to let the Villagers that have cloned cards and the people that are selling them know about your stopping their cards from working? And, is there a gate that I can test my cloned card on to make sure it doesn't work?”

Why make Villagers go outside the system to have a better system (in my opinion) for activating the gates? If the cloned coin cards still work using the new system, why doesn’t the District provide the option of receiving coin cards from them that can be placed in car mirrors to activate the gates without human intervention? I will ask them that question!
I thank you for your time and effort to make life just a bit easier for us Villagers. I appreciate your gumption.

twoplanekid 10-15-2022 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146940)
I thank you for your time and effort to make life just a bit easier for us Villagers. I appreciate your gumption.
I appreciate all of the comments made in this thread and especially yours as I would hope everyone is trying to make this place an even better place to live in during our late years in life. District staff is impressed by the interest show in this thread. Again, they are good people working for us and will try to accommodate improvements to the systems if feasible. So, I am hopeful that everyone will end up happy in this great place called the Villages.

dewilson58 10-15-2022 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146937)
I was also put off by that comment. .
:cryin2:
what were you discouraged from doing??
:shrug:

JMintzer 10-15-2022 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2146900)
Originally Posted by retiredguy123

According the The Villages customer service office, there is no rule that prohibits the use of a cloned gate card on your vehicle mirror.



That also means that The Villages has no obligation to make sure "cloned cards" will continue to work nor supply any sort of "support" to continue their usage.

If Villages' upgrades make existing clones obsolete and someone's "side gig" gets harmed in the process ... tough luck.
How the first statement "also means" that "The Villages has no obligation to make sure "cloned cards" will continue to work nor supply any sort of "support" to continue their usage." escapes me...

And this thread has nothing to do with someone's "side gig"...

JMintzer 10-15-2022 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146914)
You need to pull close enough to the card reader. I'm so used to it and I know where I need to be when I pull up to the gate reader. I understand it is the same deal with those card cloned strips that are installed in the side view mirrors.
We pulled up so close we scraped the tires. The "hold it up to the window" trick does NOT work with our cards...

The mirror chip works if the tires are a foot or so away from the curb...

TrapX 10-15-2022 12:19 PM
The solution should be the one to lower costs for everyone.
Best savings: That would be no gates at all.
2nd best: If doing thigs the old way is really adding some warm and fuzzy benefit, make them work like the exit gates. That's next lowest cost because: No buttons. No cards, No new systems. No staff salaries to administer the system. No costs for new hardware, computers and ongoing yearly maintenance. Fewer broken arms to repair.
Worst thing: Spend $270k to replicate something that has zero actual value. Spend our money to do all the things that the first 2 solutions can avoid. Spend even more to "enhance" the system so it behaves like the exit gate arms. Seems like a huge waste of OUR money.

JMintzer 10-15-2022 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146933)
That is unfortunate for you. Sorry, but mine works every time. And......I HAVE read every post in this thread so far.
Then why would you post this?

"You need to pull close enough to the card reader."

You can't pull up any closer than when your tires are scraping the curb...

JMintzer 10-15-2022 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146934)
I am very friendly and very careful at the gates whether I'm driving a car or golf cart. I much prefer to wait until all vehicular traffic is clear before I proceed in my golf cart when waiting at the gates. I also do not proceed when a car driver waves at me to proceed. Cars have the right of way in that case. I do not make eye contact and will wait to proceed when traffic is cleared.
Great response... But of course it was not what I was responding to.

I was responding to your comment that they should do away with all gates and just make golf carts wait...

JMintzer 10-15-2022 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2146938)
I will be happy to pay for the convenience of not needing to use any card.
Put a chip in your mirror... I've yet to find a gate where that doesn't work...:icon_wink:


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