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-   -   Not happy with changes to the gate card system (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/not-happy-changes-gate-card-system-335899/)

bowlingal 10-12-2022 07:18 AM
FYI.....the cards work right through the closed window. No need to have it installed on your mirror. Try it!!

Tvflguy 10-12-2022 07:34 AM
Personally I am perfectly AOK with the current system. When we were considering TV 10+ years ago we pressed the red button to get in. Now for 8 years as residents the card works. Sometime not thru our car window. Big deal.

Some folks love to B&M about anything or paste 1,000 words postings. I have better things to do and skip verbose stuff here.

Bottom line IMO it works just fine. Can it be upgraded? Maybe. At what cost and benefit.

So my bottom line leave it as is.

CosmicTrucker 10-12-2022 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2145989)
FYI.....the cards work right through the closed window. No need to have it installed on your mirror. Try it!!
This works for me as well. I keep the card in my wallet and simply hold my wallet up to my closed window and it opens the gate every time.

SusanStCatherine 10-12-2022 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2145989)
FYI.....the cards work right through the closed window. No need to have it installed on your mirror. Try it!!
I've tried holding my gate card up to and against the closed car window about five separate times and it hasn't worked once.

SusanStCatherine 10-12-2022 08:13 AM
So duplication is not favorably looked upon? That implies it can still be done and is not illegal. I don't think they can prevent it.

Steve 10-12-2022 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LAFwUs (Post 2145876)
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the "angst" over clone cards is all about the money. Isn't it always?
I couldn't guess as to how many clone cards are in circulation/use over the years, but each one would be taking away $$ or rubs against whom ever has the contract as the service provider.
None of this is about making life better for residence, because if it was, the realization that the entire antiquated system needs an overhaul/update to, oh maybe updated to circa year 2000'sh tech perhaps. (sarcasm)

There are countless fairly simple programs out there in use right now that utilize decal type scannable's, 1/3rd the size of a credit card and can be read from 100+ft away w/ vehicles in full motion and can handle millions of scannable's, take pictures/vid, record digi info, automatically open/close gates, etc. all without a single interaction of the driver.

Besides the entire system is rather ineffective as actual "access control" when anyone can hit the red button. Knowledge of, that is fairly widely known outside the villages....NO card needed.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. That 15 bucks per extra card hits The Villages where they live--the wallet. If they really want to streamline the system do what an earlier post suggested--make the entry gates automatic just like the exit gates. No cards--period.

NotGolfer 10-12-2022 08:18 AM
We very rarely roll the window down to open gates. We can "flash" the card through the window just fine and the gates go up. I think The Villages has every right to not honor the alternative. We came without anyone twisting our arm and accept the "rules". I think the one the OP has made is his "side business: and is without permission....so he's upset when they tell him it's not allowed. What happens if someone makes a side business out of our resident I.D.??

airstreamingypsy 10-12-2022 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2145844)
I don't understand the angst over duplicate cards. What difference does it make? The red button allows anyone to access any village with no need for a card! I think a bureaucrat somewhere is bored or trying to justify their existence. Sometimes I believe I'm actually living in the movie "Idiocracy".
Bingo. The gates are there to try to keep the crossing safe, not to keep anyone out. What difference would it make if everyone who works in TV had one? None.

Steve 10-12-2022 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2145989)
FYI.....the cards work right through the closed window. No need to have it installed on your mirror. Try it!!
IF you get close enough. And IF the reader is programmed correctly. The one at Buena Vista and Southern Trace has been out of whack for weeks and won't read the card unless it's within a few inches.

golfing eagles 10-12-2022 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SusanStCatherine (Post 2146010)
I've tried holding my gate card up to and against the closed car window about five separate times and it hasn't worked once.
It's all in the wrist action:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Steve 10-12-2022 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2146001)
Personally I am perfectly AOK with the current system. When we were considering TV 10+ years ago we pressed the red button to get in. Now for 8 years as residents the card works. Sometime not thru our car window. Big deal.

Some folks love to B&M about anything or paste 1,000 words postings. I have better things to do and skip verbose stuff here.

Bottom line IMO it works just fine. Can it be upgraded? Maybe. At what cost and benefit.

So my bottom line leave it as is.
I think the question is "What's the point of it all?" If it's just traffic control make the entrance gates like the exit gates--automatic.

DonnaNi4os 10-12-2022 08:21 AM
There is that little red button that easily opens the gates. The fact that there is concern about the cards seems a bit silly to me. I have a chip in my mirror and won’t be thrilled if it stops working. Seems to me that a sticker with an individual bar code on the side window would be a good way to open the gate without need to open the window. Just my humble opinion. As far as storing our information, I have nothing to hide. What’s the big deal?

DonnaNi4os 10-12-2022 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2145880)
In Tampa many gated communities had a sticker on the side window with a bar code to enter your neighborhood.
The good part was you didn’t have to open your window.
Why couldn’t we have this instead of the card?
Agreed!

golfing eagles 10-12-2022 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2146023)
We very rarely roll the window down to open gates. We can "flash" the card through the window just fine and the gates go up. I think The Villages has every right to not honor the alternative. We came without anyone twisting our arm and accept the "rules". I think the one the OP has made is his "side business: and is without permission....so he's upset when they tell him it's not allowed. What happens if someone makes a side business out of our resident I.D.??
Well, I can pretty much assure you that the "OP" would rather fly planes than install mirror gate cards. He also serves our community on the utility board. So I would be careful about making accusations about his intentions.

Heytubes 10-12-2022 08:23 AM
What about the RV storage lit? A different code for entry with my card.


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