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graciegirl 11-06-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1141288)
Are you kidding?!



No. This poster isn't kidding.


I have received threatening letters twice from two different people.

Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1141292)
No. This poster isn't kidding.


I have received threatening letters twice from two different people.

The real garbage usually shows up on other sites where TOTVers who have been booted off of here go to scream at the people they hold responsible. It gets extremely ugly.

I mean primarily Topix Talk of the Villages. I am usually not their target of hate but some others on here do get quite a lot of malice directed towards them. It seems it allows anonymous names so one person can take of dozens of facades.

Bosoxfan 11-06-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141001)
I dislike posts that are more than 140 words. I don't want anyone to change anyone's opinion or sense of humor because that's what I want. I'll block some one I find bothersome. I haven't blocked anyone yet.

I a:agree:gree completely.

Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1141405)
I don't understand what you are saying. Could you clarify?

You should be on Morse's Christmas list at least, GC. You are one of the best sales people for the Villages.

I like the Villages infinitely more than I did Palm Harbor, Florida but I had a lot of very bad experiences in Palm Harbor. I do think your experiences in a place color how you feel about it. There was that March 2, 2004 certified letter from the Palm Harbor Library General Counsel for instance for my continuing to point out that the Palm Harbor Library no longer had a working link to the Florida Victim Services Directory. I quit volunteering at Palm Harbor's 2 public libraries because of its disappearance I believe or maybe it was all the unsuccessful attempts I made at getting a job in a public and/or law library in the Tampa Bay area. I thought volunteering would open up some doors. But no such luck.

I could not wait to move to the Villages in 2005.

There was also that gaslighting attack on me in March-April of 2000 in two parks in Palm Harbor and one in Tarpon Springs that put me in a hospital/mental health treatment center for about a week. That is another very bad set of memories but did show me that I was really getting somewhere with my 224 613 Project if someone would try that very underhanded and just plain evil kind of approach at going after my credibility. It did work really well for more than a decade at undermining my self-image and family relationships. And I reported it in person to the Pinellas County Sheriff's Headquaters Office on September 18, 2002 when I finally got up enough courage and also while I was armed with a lot of my received correspondence many copies of which I left with one of their Criminal Intelligence detectives even if he told me gaslighting someone like what they did to me was not a crime. And, I still have no clue as to who actually did that to me.

Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1141452)
You had to ask ?

I do find the people on TOTV a lot more open minded than those on Findlaw where I was quite a lot from 2001 through 2007. The Findlaw people though had a very much vested interest in the status quo. There were exceptions of course but the lawyers on there really did not want their neatly arranged apple cart upset all that much. You put practical information in the hands of the people who need it the most and you are looking for trouble. Just check how many libraries in Florida have a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory or how about a link to the National Alliance on Mental Illness? Why do they not have Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) links that are very easy to put up for people with mental illlnesses and their families or survivors/victims of crimes?

If anyone wants to know why some of the events happened to me in Palm Harbor just Google Taltarzac725 and it should bring up various documents dating from 1991 and earlier which I have posted on Facebook through Photobucket.

I do thank posters on here like Gracie Girl, RedWitch, KathieI, etc. for at least having a open mind.

I do think cognitive dissonance is a huge problem with some people. If you give people some bad information about something and despite very hard evidence that it is true, they still refuse to believe it because it does not fit in with their world view. Or,maybe, they do not give a $+#*. Or, perhaps it has to be on FOX News to be believed. Or, MSNBC?

asianthree 11-06-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1141288)
Are you kidding?!

Not kidding I still have the post and the PM. He was coming after me on the golf course (thread was about golf) and hunt me down like a dog and it would be easy since I am Asian. But my name Asian three pertains to my 3 grandchildren who are Vietnamese.

dbussone 11-06-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1141491)
Not kidding I still have the post and the PM. He was coming after me on the golf course (thread was about golf) and hunt me down like a dog and it would be easy since I am Asian. But my name Asian three pertains to my 3 grandchildren who are Vietnamese.


Holy smokes. That person must be seriously deranged.

Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1141491)
Not kidding I still have the post and the PM. He was coming after me on the golf course (thread was about golf) and hunt me down like a dog and it would be easy since I am Asian. But my name Asian three pertains to my 3 grandchildren who are Vietnamese.

You should keep stuff like that and I see you have. I had a particularly nasty cyberstalker/cybersmearer on Findlaw from 2002 through 2006 or 2007. The law is quite different now as back then the cops in Pinellas County; Chesterfield County, Virginia and the FBI would not do anything about this anonymous creep I had had. Cyberstalking and Cyberharassment Laws Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine Secure Florida - Cyberstalking I could not figure out who he was for years until he bragged about playing me for a fool. It turned out he was some Criminal Defendant from Chesterfield County who was upset I could not find him just the right legal citation-- technicality-- to get him off of his white collar crime case. I did try to keep a lot of his more vicious posts on Findlaw. He posted with literally hundreds of different identities. He was very pleasant though in the e-mails to me when he needed my help. You do have to watch out for Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde type personalities on the Internet. I certainly liked helping Dr. Jekyl as I traveled to law libraries all over Tampa Bay trying to help him as well as checking out their practical holdings for survivors/victims of crimes.

He was a very talented troll knowing just what buttons to push to make me angrier and angrier especially since for a long time I could not figure out why hated me so much. I just made an easy target IMHO and I know I still do present an easy punching bag. That was the whole reason for the gaslighting attack in 2000 in Palm Harbor and Tarpon Springs. They knew I would tell people about it and make myself sound bonkers. It really worked for more than a decade. People do not want to hear that evil like that happens in the US but it does. Gaslighting: The Mind Game Everyone should Know About. | elephant journal

RickeyD 11-06-2015 03:02 PM

Oh my! What has happened?
 
The word that comes to my mind is bizarre. I think I'm still in my right mind right now and to insure it I will quietly step away and never to return till Monday. Arrivederci all !

Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1141499)
The word that comes to my mind is bizarre. I think I'm still in my right mind right now and to insure it I will quietly step away and never to return till Monday. Arrivederci all !

Bye bye. I hope others will look at my Photobucket Array for Taltarzac725. You should be able to see the problems I was having fighting for survivors/victims of crimes access to practical information from January 1991 onward. Often the only way they could attack my credibility was going against me instead of addressing the actual issue. The issue is practical information for survivors/victims of crimes that is actually in or accessible through libraries. It is not my mental health. No matter how crazy I may sound that niche can be easily investigated. It is terrible philosophical debate with all kinds of logical flaws but is very good bullying politics. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ Ad Hominem (Abusive) Some of the names in those documents on my Photobucket Facebook array are in the news right now in 2015.

Barefoot 11-06-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1141345)
The real garbage usually shows up on other sites where TOTVers who have been booted off of here go to scream at the people they hold responsible. It gets extremely ugly.
I mean primarily Topix Talk of the Villages. I am usually not their target of hate but some others on here do get quite a lot of malice directed towards them. It seems it allows anonymous names so one person can take of dozens of facades.

The Topix website is nasty. I haven't looked at it in at least a year. It makes TOTV look like rainbows, unicorns and angel wings. :angel:

tomwed 11-06-2015 07:57 PM

I googled Topix Talk of the Villages. Is the last post on TV on Topix Jul 22, 2014? I didn't bother to read it since it was so old.

I perceived I was threatened on TOTV once. I took an unpopular stand on a controversial topic. I'm no longer raising children or teaching students. So I only talk to my friends and family about controversial topics.

snowbird22154 11-06-2015 08:09 PM

You nailed it....
 
:BigApplause:


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Originally Posted by Papa (Post 1140703)
What has happened? This site used to have such good responses to questions, and concerns fellow Villagers have.

Lately, the responses have attempted to be sarcastic in nature, try to make a joke, or otherwise, belittle the original poster. I am not pointing to any single person, or topic, but a general trend.

I've subscribed to this site for over 4 years, and found it to be quite useful, adding insight to the many of the issues and concerns of fellow Villagers.
Let's please try to get back on-track, and be more considerate of the OP.


Taltarzac725 11-06-2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141681)
I googled Topix Talk of the Villages. Is the last post on TV on Topix Jul 22, 2014? I didn't bother to read it since it was so old.

I perceived I was threatened on TOTV once. I took an unpopular stand on a controversial topic. I'm no longer raising children or teaching students. So I only talk to my friends and family about controversial topics.

The latest is around October 18, 2015 talking about their experiences at the latest Crisper's TOTV lunch. I do not bother to look at this Topix stuff often as it is usually the equivalent of junior high school bathroom stall scribbling.

If it comes up when I Google Taltarzac725 I look at it. Otherwise I do not look at it unless it becomes a problem for some other TOTVer. Then I do try to get to the bottom of what is going on given whatever resources I have available to do that.

I do hunt for that cybersmearer/cyberstalker I had on Findlaw from 2001 through 2006-2007 occasionally just in case he makes another appearance some where I post but I have never seen what looks to be him anywhere since 2008. Topix would be his style. He hides using clever avatar names and is usually one of the nastiest posters on a site.

CFrance 11-06-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141001)
I dislike posts that are more than 140 words. I don't want anyone to change anyone's opinion or sense of humor because that's what I want. I'll block some one I find bothersome. I haven't blocked anyone yet.

Oh, Phew!:faint:

graciegirl 11-07-2015 05:12 AM

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tomwed 11-07-2015 05:28 AM

I tried googling Topix again and got different results. This time I found new threads filled with anger, angst and rhetoric; oh well. On a positive note I'm making gingerbread and spice pancakes for breakfast and later I'm playing Amberwood and Okliegh back to back. Recently I rediscovered that if I swing as hard as I can I can hit a 5 iron 170 yards. I haven't done that, ever. And the swing doesn't work yet with my driver but I'll keep trying.

graciegirl 11-07-2015 05:47 AM

,,,

Walter123 11-07-2015 06:24 AM

I thought this thread was about TOTV?

graciegirl 11-07-2015 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1141774)
I thought this thread was about TOTV?



Sorry. I deleted my posts. Least said, soonest mended.

tomwed 11-07-2015 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1141774)
I thought this thread was about TOTV?

I see TOTV as a conversation not a homework assignment and the detours are sometimes more interesting. Feel free to take points off.

Walter123 11-07-2015 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141778)
I see TOTV as a conversation not a homework assignment and the detours are sometimes more interesting. Feel free to take points off.

That's not like you Tom. Why the attitude?

tomwed 11-07-2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1141784)
That's not like you Tom. Why the attitude?

oh sorry

No attitude intended. I was thinking about my teachers who would remind me that I was not paying attention to the class discussion again in class.
i'll do better

jojo 11-07-2015 07:01 AM

As a long time TOTVer, I'll go on record to say I appreciate the humor on TOTV. I love laughing and marvel at the wit of posters. Thanks to those of you who brighten our days.l

HimandMe 11-07-2015 07:42 AM

A simple like dislike button after a post and the poster should get the message. If they start to protest too much, not only do they reveal themselves but we can hit ignore forever. We are adults and can discriminate for ourselves. I love to hear from everyone, knowing we come from every background, every level of education and different viewpoints. If I see a lot of likes or dislikes different from mine, I have to reflect on whether it just might be "me", and that is growth.

tomwed 11-07-2015 08:01 AM

Instead, how about Gruntled and Disgruntled Buttons?

CFrance 11-07-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141788)
oh sorry

No attitude intended. I was thinking about my teachers who would remind me that I was not paying attention to the class discussion again in class.
i'll do better

I got you the first time. It's your sense of humor. Don't stop!

tomwed 11-07-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1141826)
I got you the first time. It's your sense of humor. Don't stop!

Well, I just learned there was a monkey spotting in TV and according to the article monkeys have "a quick wit and opposable thumbs". I just hope the monkey doesn't find a smart phone and starts posting pretending he's me.

Taltarzac725 11-07-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141834)
Well, I just learned there was a monkey spotting in TV and according to the article monkeys have "a quick wit and opposable thumbs". I just hope the monkey doesn't find a smart phone and starts posting pretending he's me.

I hear he/she has been soaking up the knowledge at the Lady Lake Elementary School!

On a serious note, these animals carry some very frightening diseases so stay clear of them. Diseases from monkeys and other primates

tomwed 11-07-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1141838)
I hear he/she has been soaking up the knowledge at the Lady Lake Elementary School!

On a serious note, these animals carry some very frightening diseases so stay clear of them. Diseases from monkeys and other primates

Seriously, it is disconcerting. Avoiding eye contact to not provoke the animal seems counter intuitive. I hope it's captured and returned.

graciegirl 11-07-2015 09:17 AM

Go see the thread that The Shadow just started about the monkey. WHO KNEW?

This forum is so educational.

billethkid 11-07-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141804)
Instead, how about Gruntled and Disgruntled Buttons?

How about ....more disgruntled
.....less disgruntled

:D

outlaw 11-07-2015 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141804)
Instead, how about Gruntled and Disgruntled Buttons?

There's a difference?

tomwed 11-07-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1141851)
There's a difference?

I was surprised too.
grun·tled
ˈɡrən(t)ld/
adjective humorous
pleased, satisfied, and contented.

dis·grun·tled
disˈɡrən(t)ld/
adjective
angry or dissatisfied.

IMHO like/dislike is age inappropriate.

outlaw 11-07-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1141852)
I was surprised too.
grun·tled
ˈɡrən(t)ld/
adjective humorous
pleased, satisfied, and contented.

dis·grun·tled
disˈɡrən(t)ld/
adjective
angry or dissatisfied.

IMHO like/dislike is age inappropriate.

Interesting:
grun•tle

v.
To utter small, low grunts.
v.
To complain; to grumble
v.
To humour; to induce the opposite effect of causing a person to become disgruntled.


Now I'm really confused.

tomwed 11-07-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1141855)
Interesting:
grun•tle

v.
To utter small, low grunts.
v.
To complain; to grumble
v.
To humour; to induce the opposite effect of causing a person to become disgruntled.


Now I'm really confused.

me too

Do you think it's like flammable and inflammable?

Maybe they would make better buttons?

Taltarzac725 11-07-2015 09:50 AM

Grammar Girl : Don't Worry, Be Gruntled :: Quick and Dirty Tips

Cannot say I have ever used the word "gruntled" in a sentence up to now.

tomwed 11-07-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1141869)
Grammar Girl : Don't Worry, Be Gruntled :: Quick and Dirty Tips

Cannot say I have ever used the word "gruntled" in a sentence up to now.

AHAA!!!
"The Merriam-Webster online dictionary puts the first use in 1926, but doesn’t show the source." - See more at: Grammar Girl : Don't Worry, Be Gruntled :: Quick and Dirty Tips

I see the problem now. My newest dictionary is the Marriam-Webster 1925 edition that I won in a spelling contest the very same year.

dotti105 11-07-2015 10:11 AM

I for one, am not on the forums as much as I once was. I do feel the tone has changed overall.

Here have been many posts which have been argumentative to the point of being hostile and resorting to middle school behavior.

This has been the site that welcomed many of us here and that we relied upon to find good restaurants, subcontractors, etc.

Several posters have been banned for their hostile attitudes and perhaps more should be too.

We are all here to "live the dream" and enjoy this period of our lives in "America's Friendliest Home Town". When I get on the site and see a bunch of bickering and back biting, I just turn off my computer. I don't need that in my life. There is too much good here to enjoy and celebrate.

I won't buy into the negativity.

Walter123 11-07-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dotti105 (Post 1141884)
I for one, am not on the forums as much as I once was. I do feel the tone has changed overall.

Here have been many posts which have been argumentative to the point of being hostile and resorting to middle school behavior.

This has been the site that welcomed many of us here and that we relied upon to find good restaurants, subcontractors, etc.

Several posters have been banned for their hostile attitudes and perhaps more should be too.

We are all here to "live the dream" and enjoy this period of our lives in "America's Friendliest Home Town". When I get on the site and see a bunch of bickering and back biting, I just turn off my computer. I don't need that in my life. There is too much good here to enjoy and celebrate.

I won't buy into the negativity.

:agree::beer3:


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