Did you read this post from a user who was practicing attorney for 40 years who was both a Federal and State prosecutor?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...90-post57.html

Are the Millers still residing in The Villages? I think if it was me, I would want to be a million miles away. I was brought up on "you cannot fight City Hall" and I guess it is correct.

I am surprised this story has not been picked up by one of the major news channels or news shows.

Is it just me
 

Is it just me who doesn’t get why people are beating up on Mr. Miller? It almost like there is still a dark edge against this law abiding citizen. A man that wanted to serve our community and stand for what is right, is being kicked at for no reason. What is wrong with some people?

Yes, like the one going on right now in New York City

I stand firmly with the Governor's views on this.

Also support the developer.

Oh my yes, poor, poor innocent abused guy who did nothing wrong………….

Which one is that? I am aware of a civil, not criminal trial, where a very powerful developer and he and his corporations and his children are accused of using their influence cheating to get a financial goal that saved them millions of dollars. Kind of like how the Morse family used its power to save itself millions by having the taxpayers pick up the bill for building infrastructure. But that is a civil trial and there is only a financial penalty not being sent to jail. Is that the one that has you find comparable?

I feel the opposite but my explanation would not be allowed here.

Federal vs state.

Wise words and having read just about every article published about the situation and read the decisions, this seems to be exactly what happened.

The local newspapers and the Developer's Public Relations machine, did a heck of a job of polluting the jury pool, long before Miller got to trial.

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What are the governor's views on this which you stand firmly to support. As far as I know he has never expressed any opinion on the matter, but you reflexively support whatever it was he never said.

All the governor did was use his Constitutional power to suspend from office an elected Commissioner. He never stated whether he felt the charges were justified, he never commented on the verdict or the mechanism that ensued to bring those charges or the Morses. Now he certainly may have used his Constitutional power to help out his friend, Mr. Morse, who has financially supported him in the past and he hopes will financially support him in the future, but he never said that out loud.

Please Gracie, I am interested in your thinking? What view did the Governor put forward in Oren Miller's case that you are finding worthy of support?

Don’t shoot the messenger
 

I’ll be the first to admit I’m very new to TVs. I am quite literate though. From what I understand after several articles this guy was overwhelmingly voted into office? He wanted to cut taxes on homeowners by making TV developer pay the proper amount for impact fees? The Developer didn’t like it? Prosecutors for the county came down heavy handed until a crime was discovered they thought would stick? He was later exonerated because he wasn’t guilty.

This is all from the outside looking in. I don’t intend on taking any side of an argument. I just want to know the facts if anyone has one that can be backed up? Am I wrong on any of this?

It does make us a bit uncomfortable that we will be moving into this in the sublime of all we wanted.

Many versions to this story..............sit back and enjoy, more to come.

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Darn.

They have done great work for this community. I mean the Millers. Met them a number of years back so I am biased but doubt if they remember me. They were looking for the owners of a lost dog on our street. It turned out in was my late neighbor's deaf chef son's critter who had gotten out while they were out enjoying the Villages in one of the restaurants. The dog had sat by the door on another neighbor until they let it in and called Lost Pets of the Villages. The Millers would often go out to find lost dogs.

Oren Miller did get a raw deal from the justice system such as it is here.

I had also been out but probably just taking my dog out to pee.

The Villages is a company town though. I recall Gary Corsair did an article on me in 2007 and was later doing a series on Big Foot for the The Villages Daily Sun . He left for greener pastures. The article was on my getting stuff for survivors/victims in crimes into area library systems. Mainly the Florida Victim Services Directory link to their webpages.

Mr. Corsair also wrote a lot about local area high school basketball history.

The involvement of the Developer is only speculation and accusation, I have seen no facts to support it. In many things, the Developer is seen as the boogeyman and it is believed to be behind the scenes pulling the strings.

There is a great distance between innocent and guilty. His convicted but recently the conviction was overturned. At best he made some poor choices which put him in a position to be prosecuted. There was a whole lot of smoke and a few flashes of orange but the appeals court disagreed with the jury about whether there was a sufficient amount of flame.

If you are the type of person to be interested in how the sausage of local politics is made, you may be frustrated. If you are moving here to enjoy the weather and the amenities and don't really care about the sausage then you will be happy. It seems like the vast majority of the people fall into the second category.

There are folks out there who still believe Nixon was a crook and knew about the Watergate break in.

This "follow the money" theory is a whole lot of baloney. :doh: