Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1759883)

Death rate per infected is not really a good way to judge success of lockdown vs herd approach. 50% of Sweden's deaths have occurred in nursing homes. In the USA its more like 1 in 4. Nursing homes have the people most likely to die, so the percentage of deaths to infected is skewed by this.

Sweden's death rate per million is a lot lower than UK, Italy, Spain, France etc They all had lockdowns too.

Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1759854)

Is anyone as sick of these stories as I am? No masks, no social distancing, yada, yada, yada. Yes, we KNOW there are people not wearing masks. We KNOW people are not maintaining their distance. We KNOW people are gathering where they shouldn't. It's their funeral, not yours. We KNOW not everyone is is abiding by the law. So What!!! Stay away from them. Try to focus on some positive things like....what a beautiful day we have. Be happy to be living in America and not some third world country. Be happy that you are free and ABLE to complain about things without repercussions. I look for the good and I don't dwell on the bad. Let's give the complaints a rest, because, in the end, there is really NOTHING you can do about it.

Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1759534)

Let them gather.... Will be a lot of good homes for sale soon !!! :ohdear: :ohdear:


J/K

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1759561)

You (generic "you" not you personally) don't just "build immunity and antibodies" unless you have the virus in your system. And if you have the virus in your system and show no symptoms you are then an asymptomatic carrier and could possibly spread it to those around you who may not be as lucky as you since most people here are in the most dangerous age group. You just can't develop immunity without having the virus so you might do well but not necessarily those around you who you could spread it to.

Originally Posted by TimeForChange (Post 1759605)

There is a golf group in TV that acks as though they own everything. I won't say the name but they all wear the same color golf shirts on different days. They congregate following golf usually around lunch or a little after at the Red Sauce Bar outside. Many of them are arrogant, and have had problems with some of the ambassadors on the courses. That is probably the group you saw at Red Sauce.

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1759825)

Coffeebean, they can do what they want & the people can do the same, it’s they’re choice. Coronavirus to me is for real, & if these people are that brave let them party. But me like you I’ll do the things where I feel safe. All I can say is if these people want to call this virus a bluff it’s fine with me! Have fun & enjoy yourself.

Originally Posted by DONKEY10 (Post 1759680)

And you know what for the most part this social distancing has been a failure. Look at Sweden how they handled it. They let herd immunity do the work . We should have done the same thing. What are you going to do if this happens again later this year or next year? Shut down everything again? No let it roll thru and be done with it. Viruses have been around for billions of years and herd immunity is how we have dealt with them throughout time

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1759716)

.....and their death rate is six times higher than their neighbors.
There is a price, and no guarantees whichever way you go.

Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1759854)

Is anyone as sick of these stories as I am? No masks, no social distancing, yada, yada, yada. Yes, we KNOW there are people not wearing masks. We KNOW people are not maintaining their distance. We KNOW people are gathering where they shouldn't. It's their funeral, not yours. We KNOW not everyone is is abiding by the law. So What!!! Stay away from them. Try to focus on some positive things like....what a beautiful day we have. Be happy to be living in America and not some third world country. Be happy that you are free and ABLE to complain about things without repercussions. I look for the good and I don't dwell on the bad. Let's give the complaints a rest, because, in the end, there is really NOTHING you can do about it.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1759730)

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Sweden's death rate per million is higher than other Baltic states, but less than many other European countries, slightly higher than USA.

If Sweden achieves herd immunity in a few months, their death rate will drop to almost zero, while lockdown countries will see deaths continue to grow for next two years or until vaccine is developed. In the end they may lose the battle but win the war.

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1759736)

What bothers me more is all the snitching that is going on and how some are comfortable with it. Right into the playbook of our enemies. What ever happened to “Mi d your own business” A salon single mom owner in Texas was just thrown in jail for opening her salon to as she said “feed her kids “. This has gotten way out of hand. Absolute power corrupts.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1759883)

Death rate per infected is not really a good way to judge success of lockdown vs herd approach. 50% of Sweden's deaths have occurred in nursing homes. In the USA its more like 1 in 4. Nursing homes have the people most likely to die, so the percentage of deaths to infected is skewed by this.

Sweden's death rate per million is a lot lower than UK, Italy, Spain, France etc They all had lockdowns too.