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sloanst 05-17-2020 08:36 AM

Bars do not have food as their primary offering. If food is your primary offering to the public then you are considered a restaurant.

PennBF 05-17-2020 08:40 AM

Split Opinion
 
I really have a "split opinion". Should there be some controls to govern the crazies that continue to gather close to each other as I personally saw at the Cody parties and risk getting the virus. The ones that survive the ordeal of the illness may or may not live adding to the pool that can be used to protect others from the virus? Of course some may die but as they say that's the risk they run for a few drinks to satisfy an addiction. The the other opinion is to do as the Villages did and shut them down thereby protecting others from their lack of respect for other lives. I have driven by in a golf cart and seen these "must have a drink" participants ignoring the keep your distance rules and hanging out with little regard for the next guy? I vote to stop the selfish disregard for others! Which do you think is best?:popcorn:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-17-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766047)
Even if that were the true, we’re adults and we can make decisions about where we wanna be and how close we want to sit to other people. Social distancing is a recommendation, it is not a law. It’s not up to someone else to decide for us what we should be doing? I don’t understand why more people don’t get that?

I don't understand why some people don't get the fact that if they contract this virus they can easily pass it on to others who are trying to do the right thing.

You can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days. How many people might a person have contact with in 14 days?

I believe that the protocols put in place do have the power of a law. Do you think that businesses would stay closed if it were mandatory?

twoperson 05-17-2020 08:44 AM

To all those that think 6 feet is some kind of "scientific" criteria for protecting you from this latest virus... Did you know that a "cloth" cotton, or other fabric, lower face mask is "scientifically" only 2% effective? That means you can still have air-born, virus particulates (98% of them) pass thru (or around ) these decorative, "homemade" face coverings. Also, it IS a scientific fact that you can contract COVID-19 virus particulates into the eyes? Your eyes are pretty much exposed all the time (when they are open). I don't see many folks wearing "approved" eye protection? I believe the mainstream media has done a very negligent job at informing the public and has "most" folks that believe everything they see on the "news" so paranoid that they have lost all sense of what is real and factual. The real facts are that being outside and in the sunlight and fresh air is the best thing you can do. Listening to music is even better. Remember, there are literally THOUSANDS of people that you are around and have passed on the street EVERYDAY for decades that have contagious conditions (some that could be fatal) and nobody ever restricted your movements and required you to don PPE before? This reaction to this latest virus has been WAY OVERBLOWN as far as the closing of selected businesses. Much damage has been done to the economy and people just need to grow-up. Mass transit, LARGE crowds such as shoulder to shoulder concerts, sporting events, waiting rooms in doctors offices and ER's, waiting in long lines for entry into some store or other area are the places where you really get exposed and are at high risk of being next to a sick person. All of these business closings are based on someone's (usually a politician) opinion/s. Just avoid crowds and tight areas full of other people. For most folks it's business as usual.

spuds51 05-17-2020 09:01 AM

masks
 
To all those that think 6 feet is some kind of "scientific" criteria for protecting you from this latest virus... Did you know that a "cloth" cotton, or other fabric, lower face mask is "scientifically" only 2% effective? That means you can still have air-born, virus particulates (98% of them) pass thru (or around ) these decorative, "homemade" face coverings.


You wear the masks not to protect yourself as much as to respect and protect others around you. They say this about every day why is it so hard to grasp? Again, you may have it and not know it!! If you cough or sneeze and have a mask on you won't spread it as bad. It's to protect not only YOU but all around YOU

Iowagirl2 05-17-2020 09:05 AM

I was actually there and had a marvelous time I have been quarantining myself for two months and was worried about going out again

. I felt like everybody was keeping their distance and the sheriff even drove by twice and didn’t say a thing. I was looking forward to going there again next Monday but I guess that’s not possible. People were exaggerating on how many people were really there.

bobnyce 05-17-2020 09:09 AM

Policy makers! Ha!

graciegirl 05-17-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1766296)
I get it just fine. It's called CONTROL. If anyone is worried about social distancing and getting COVID-19, they can just stay home and listen to the radio and dance naked in their own homes.

I don't understand how so many of you have given up your rights under the US Constitution .. inalienable rights ... and have traded liberty for perceive safety. The PRIMARY focus of the US Constitution is INDIVIDUAL rights; not collective authority. The Constitution exists to protect the INDIVIDUAL from the whims of the masses.

Tired of the ignorance so many display.

I always wonder if folks took Biology and Chemistry in high school.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-17-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1766425)
You may want to read The Bill of Rights - the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. It's all about individual rights, vs. the power of government.

It has nothing to do with the situation at hand. The government (the state) has been LESS restrictive than the Villages has been, thus far. The Villages is not a government. It is a private entity, a property management company and property development company - a holding company for a myriad of other companies. They are owners of the property in question in this thread.

THEY have the "individual right" to choose how their property is used. THEY have the "individual right" to decree "no public entertainment for now" and THEY have the "individual right" to tell Gator's that they're breaking the rules.

The government isn't doing that. The owner of the property is doing that.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-17-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by diva1 (Post 1766428)
Anyone who thinks, and says here, 'nothing they have told us is reliable' is unable to accept that there is a danger to this pandemic and is just a myna bird for a certain political type.

Also is "nothing is reliable" that means "some of it might be true." If we aren't able to tell which is truth and which is not - because nothing is reliable - it might want us to err on the side of caution. Not paranoia, not fear, not terror. Just caution.

So no - don't stay home with the doors locked to keep the Covid Bogeyman away. Instead, get out, wear a mask, keep your distance, wash your hands, don't touch your face.

And use common sense, like most people do. If wearing a mask for an hour makes you feel like you're too confined, then pull the mask away every 15 minutes for a few happy breaths of fresh air. Just make sure you're far enough away from everyone that if a sneeze suddenly explodes from your mouth, it won't have any chance of landing on anyone.

ribil 05-17-2020 09:32 AM

It’s all about risk. If you’re too irresponsible or defiant to follow the guidelines and put yourself at further risk not caring for your own safety, it increases the risk the rest of us suffer. Should you be allowed to drive impaired and risk someone else’s life because you feel you have the right to do so? It’s been advised that wearing a mask isn’t for your protection, it’s for the other person’s protection. If you don’t follow the guidelines because you “don’t wanna” and then transmit the virus causing someone’s death, should you be charged with manslaughter or wrongful death? A little extreme but hopefully, you get the analogy.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-17-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ribil (Post 1766534)
It’s all about risk. If you’re too irresponsible or defiant to follow the guidelines and put yourself at further risk not caring for your own safety, it increases the risk the rest of us suffer. Should you be allowed to drive impaired and risk someone else’s life because you feel you have the right to do so? It’s been advised that wearing a mask isn’t for your protection, it’s for the other person’s protection. If you don’t follow the guidelines because you “don’t wanna” and then transmit the virus causing someone’s death, should you be charged with manslaughter or wrongful death? A little extreme but hopefully, you get the analogy.

I think if you don't follow the guidelines and get sick with COVID-19 as a direct result, then your health insurance shouldn't cover your hospital costs. Maybe if people knew that they could lose their homes, investments, cars, and anything else of value if they choose unwisely, they might choose a little more wisely.

ldj1938 05-17-2020 09:52 AM

Enough already!
 
For those of you that don't like what you see out there please stay home under the bed and close your eyes. You will be safe.
Personally I will sleep on the floor, my wife in the bed so we can maintain our social distance. NOT....:ho:

VinoGolf 05-17-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766538)
I think if you don't follow the guidelines and get sick with COVID-19 as a direct result, then your health insurance shouldn't cover your hospital costs. Maybe if people knew that they could lose their homes, investments, cars, and anything else of value if they choose unwisely, they might choose a little more wisely.

Ridiculous logic.

So smokers who get cancer, drinkers who develop liver issues, unhealthy eaters who develop diabetes, people who don’t exercise that develop cardiovascular issues, etc, etc, shouldn’t be covered by their health insurance?

New Englander 05-17-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1766097)
No, we are not! The great divide seems to get wider every day.

Ostriches hear little snippets of news broadcast by The Little Red Hen and are certain that the end is near!

Logical and thinking people can figure out that nothing that “they” have told us to date is reliable.

Do you really want to die in your house while this scamdemic seeks a cure?

Pray tell, who be the "Little Red Hen"?


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