Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 409960)

I don't love TV. It is not my home. My home and heart is in San Francisco and probably always will be. However, I had to leave SF for personal reasons and the odds of ever being able to go back are slim.

I HATE the conservativeness here, the unwillingness to hear another side to an argument. It goes against everything I've ever believed. I really don't understand preventing a politician coming into an area because they have a different viewpoint. I was taught that all views should be heard and understood to the best of my ability. I dislike the way I see the developer nickel and dime newcomers (once you've been here awhile, you know where to go for what). Those are my two major peeves.

All of that being said, I truly like TV and I'm glad I landed here. I've found a very comfortable way of life, a decent business, wonderful friends and great activities. TV is not my Shangri-La (hope you meant that rather than Shanghai lol) although we all know it is Gracie's, but it is a very good community with far more pluses than minuses.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 409957)

I do sometimes wonder about furnished houses in NEW Villages that are for sale by owner. Some have never been lived in, or just a very short time. Many times they have lovely improvements ... Birdcages or summer kitchens or pools. I know that health is a major "situation changer" in a retirement community. But there seem to be many nearly new houses for sale. I really wonder why.

Originally Posted by LvmyPug2 (Post 409965)

Many of the folks who weren't totally enamored with TV didn't "hate" it here, but wished they still had kept a place "back home".

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 409982)

One question I don't see asked....why did one move away from where they lived and to The Villages? Where we lived, friends had moved away, traffic had become a nightmare, drugs and gangs were becoming more threatening, getting anywhere involved taking a freeway with heavy traffic that was many times, stopped.

TV offered beautiful surroundings, fewer worries about crimes, the opportunity to make more friends and something I really missed...the chance to take "back roads" around the state. Did I mention I really don't like freeways... ;)

At prior home, lots of traffic, noise from planes, helicopters (Marine Corp base not far away) sirens (fire station nearby) and a constant din that you didn't really recognize until it stopped (on 9/11) made TV seem extremely quiet. Now, even with all the cars and trucks, (Morse is behind my house) it's not nearly as noisy here for us....maybe that's why hubby and I aren't particularly bothered.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 409795)

I love this place as everyone knows and sometimes I think that the discontent that some folks have here really doesn't reflect their negative feelings about the PLACE.

I think other reasons may be;

They are away from family and maybe new grandchildren that have been born since they moved here.

YEPPERS :cryin2:I agree with the missing the grandkids big time. Every time one of them asks me why we moved I couls almost cry.

They are in some denial about aging or in some difficult financial situation due to the very bad economic situation right now and feel trapped.

NOPERS: We wouldn't be any better off at home so "what the hey" We certainly would not be any younger at home. I AM a bit worried that I have left a town with top notch docs and come to an area that does not have that level of expertise.

They aren't used to NOT having a say in local government decisions. AND the CDD form of government is NOT democratic.
NOPERS: Unless you happened to be one particulay party it was the same back home.

They are somewhat depressed as many seniors are due to chemical brain changes.
:loco::loco:
:loco::loco: SO... what's the question?

They do not like the conversative political atmosphere that is predominant here.
:crap2: Come on Redwitch I will join you in this.

They are annoyed that the Morse family are so financially successful in these poor economic times. After all they did sell us some cheap land in the middle of Florida. :$::lipsrsealed::wave:

COME ON: Put on your big girl/boy panties and deal with this. This is a very symbiotic relationship. We make them rich, they make us Happy.:sing:

They have always been unhappy.

BUMP

They think acting happy with everything is not realistic and responsible. Pointing out negatives is being a good citizen.

Being happy with everything is not realistic or responsible, but I never feel I am living in hell, that is for sure.


None of the above and they are going to tell us what it is.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 409804)

I understand they aren't happy with TV. And yes, I do understand there are people who live in my town who aren't happy but the reason they may not leave my town is because they have family close by, they can't leave their jobs, they are afraid to move out of state, the place they want to live cost more. (OK... that doesn't apply in Chicago)

But, I doubt that any of those reasons apply to the people who are unhappy. and as of yet, none of them have come on to say why they don't move.

I'm not saying "like it or leave it" but I am curious. I know there are a lot of places that you can buy a better home then TV. So.... Why do they stay?

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 410026)

Sandy and I remember going to an open house in TV for a resale home that was fairly new. We asked the realtor why the owner was selling (always inquisitive!). She explained that the gentleman (single) really missed the fishing back in CO as well as being much closer to his daughter...........so he was heading back there! Can't validate the story but it's certainly plausible!

I'd have to imagine missing family is a big pull for some to leave TV.

Bill :)

Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 410036)

Having lived most of my adult life in the SF Bay Area, Monday Night Football started at 5:30 PM. My wife just commented that it was nearly 8:30 and Monday Night Football will start soon but she can't stay up past 9:00 and will miss it again. If our kids were around they would stay up with me but they are long gone and it's just us two who want to watch Monday Night Football and she doesn't stay up late.

This may force us to stay in California until February so we can watch Monday Night Football at a respectable time. But then we would miss our daily pickleball games at 8 AM. Nothing but problems here in paradise!


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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 409982)

One question I don't see asked....why did one move away from where they lived and to The Villages? Where we lived, friends had moved away, traffic had become a nightmare, drugs and gangs were becoming more threatening, getting anywhere involved taking a freeway with heavy traffic that was many times, stopped.

TV offered beautiful surroundings, fewer worries about crimes, the opportunity to make more friends and something I really missed...the chance to take "back roads" around the state. Did I mention I really don't like freeways... ;)

At prior home, lots of traffic, noise from planes, helicopters (Marine Corp base not far away) sirens (fire station nearby) and a constant din that you didn't really recognize until it stopped (on 9/11) made TV seem extremely quiet. Now, even with all the cars and trucks, (Morse is behind my house) it's not nearly as noisy here for us....maybe that's why hubby and I aren't particularly bothered.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 409960)

I don't love TV. It is not my home. My home and heart is in San Francisco and probably always will be. However, I had to leave SF for personal reasons and the odds of ever being able to go back are slim.

I HATE the conservativeness here, the unwillingness to hear another side to an argument. It goes against everything I've ever believed. I really don't understand preventing a politician coming into an area because they have a different viewpoint. I was taught that all views should be heard and understood to the best of my ability. I dislike the way I see the developer nickel and dime newcomers (once you've been here awhile, you know where to go for what). Those are my two major peeves.

All of that being said, I truly like TV and I'm glad I landed here. I've found a very comfortable way of life, a decent business, wonderful friends and great activities. TV is not my Shangri-La (hope you meant that rather than Shanghai lol) although we all know it is Gracie's, but it is a very good community with far more pluses than minuses.

Originally Posted by Jhooman (Post 410040)

Pooh

We are leaving California for the same reasons as yours. But I'm going to miss my kid and grandkids terribly. I will be returning frequently to spoil them rotten.

Last week there was a brutal mass killing right down the street from where I live. My podiatrist and physical therapist have their business upstairs from the hair salon that 8 people perished. Southern California is so expensive, the homeless are abundant, I can feel a tightness in people. People are hurting.

We will be in TV in 3 weeks to look for a home, we are so excited about this new adventure. My Dad has lived in the TV for five years, he's 82. He loves everything the community has to offer. His wife passed away December of last year, she received wonderful medical treatment and the neighbors were so kind to her and my Dad. The sense of community has brought richness to my family. With that said, we are looking forward to The Villages. My political opinions will be kept closed. Even here in California I don't discuss politics, it makes for a long sticky golf game.

I'm pretty happy here in California and I think I'll be happy in Florida, it's all about my perception and attitude.

Also, I need to warn the boys, I'm part of the POSSE and I have a serious water cannon I'm bringing from California. :crap2:

Here we come!!!!:loco::loco::loco:

Originally Posted by Jhooman (Post 410040)

Pooh

We are leaving California for the same reasons as yours. But I'm going to miss my kid and grandkids terribly. I will be returning frequently to spoil them rotten.

Last week there was a brutal mass killing right down the street from where I live. My podiatrist and physical therapist have their business upstairs from the hair salon that 8 people perished. Southern California is so expensive, the homeless are abundant, I can feel a tightness in people. People are hurting.

We will be in TV in 3 weeks to look for a home, we are so excited about this new adventure. My Dad has lived in the TV for five years, he's 82. He loves everything the community has to offer. His wife passed away December of last year, she received wonderful medical treatment and the neighbors were so kind to her and my Dad. The sense of community has brought richness to my family. With that said, we are looking forward to The Villages. My political opinions will be kept closed. Even here in California I don't discuss politics, it makes for a long sticky golf game.

I'm pretty happy here in California and I think I'll be happy in Florida, it's all about my perception and attitude.

Also, I need to warn the boys, I'm part of the POSSE and I have a serious water cannon I'm bringing from California. :crap2:

Here we come!!!!:loco::loco::loco:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 409853)

Oh noooo.... You are preaching to the choir here!!! No one can stop me from moving into TV... .I have my lot secured and will sign the papers to start building in December. We have been planning this for over eight years an NO ONE will get in my way!!!!

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 410054)

Y'all better watch out. I think she means it!!!!

Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 409915)

I don’t post much but I try to keep up with the majority of threads. In all the time I’ve been reading this site I can only recall a couple of people who truly seemed unhappy enough here that they wished they didn’t live here. I don’t recall any posts that led me to believe that the poster “hated TV”. Just because someone is unhappy with certain aspects of an area (any area) or they are nostalgic for a less crowded time, that doesn’t mean that they would rather live elsewhere. It doesn’t mean they are old, grouchy, lonely, sick or inactive. No where in the TOTV terms of services does it state that only positive opinions are allowed. For what it’s worth, I love it here and have nothing negative to say about TV, but I support the right of anyone who wants to voice their complaints.

Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 409918)

:agree: It starts to feel like cyber-bullying when it goes on too long, IMHO

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 410081)

Well stated, Sybo. I agree with everything you said, except the part about not posting much. That, I do. :024:



You make a good point, Quirky3. Many posters have stated why they imagine other people might not like living here. Only Rubicon has said why he stays despite preferring not to. Could be he's the only one reading this thread who feels that way; or could be that others who feel that way don't want to be criticized or disrespected for it.

Me, I love TV, I love it more each and every time I'm there. It is A-OK with me that not everyone agrees.

Originally Posted by runnermi (Post 410199)

I don't live in the Villages currently but will one day in the future. People used to ask me why I was so interested in living there when I had not even visited. One word, Lifestyle. To me, you can be as busy or not busy as you want. I don't want to retire to sit on my butt in my rocking chair or in front of the TV. I want to play, play, play until I no longer can.

I have girlfriend who would hate it in the Villages, she moves often and always to places where she has no close neighbors. If she can see her neighbors it is a problem. She lived in one place where the closest grocery store was 45 minutes away. I would rather jam pins into my eyes than live someplace like that. She is also a poster child of how to screw up your retirement and have pennies to live on but that is another story completely.

My Uncle Harry, couldn't wait to retire. When he did, he kicked back in his lazy boy with his beer and remote control and was dead 7 years later. My point is this, active, mentally stimulated, engaged people are proven to live longer. The Villages offer than environment. If you are bored, it is your own darn fault.

I am an extrovert and I am sure will thrive in the Villages. I can't wait.

Originally Posted by runnermi (Post 410199)

I don't live in the Villages currently but will one day in the future. People used to ask me why I was so interested in living there when I had not even visited. One word, Lifestyle. To me, you can be as busy or not busy as you want. I don't want to retire to sit on my butt in my rocking chair or in front of the TV. I want to play, play, play until I no longer can.

I have girlfriend who would hate it in the Villages, she moves often and always to places where she has no close neighbors. If she can see her neighbors it is a problem. She lived in one place where the closest grocery store was 45 minutes away. I would rather jam pins into my eyes than live someplace like that. She is also a poster child of how to screw up your retirement and have pennies to live on but that is another story completely.

My Uncle Harry, couldn't wait to retire. When he did, he kicked back in his lazy boy with his beer and remote control and was dead 7 years later. My point is this, active, mentally stimulated, engaged people are proven to live longer. The Villages offer than environment. If you are bored, it is your own darn fault.

I am an extrovert and I am sure will thrive in the Villages. I can't wait.

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson (Post 410226)

As a CEO, I got a free lifestyle visit. My friend who is is the VP of Purina just got an invitation to stay free at his convenience. That's marketing.

A few friends were golfing in Scotland and they all got invitations to stay free. They are also in conversations to get another golf pro to live here. They gave Nancy Lopez a great deal for her to live here. They have offered deals to many golf pros. That marketing.

When you get on every major news media by having a book tour, a governor, high profile Republicans, visit or A President to be, that is marketing. It doesn't just happen. It costs for the security, lodging for the entourage, meals, entertainment, transportation. That's all marketing. How about having FOX news broadcast from here twice. Have any idea what that cost or how many people that reached? That's marketing.

I get how anybody who is looking forward to moving here( I did too) or is new here or just loves it. Enjoy it.
Phone is ringing and I've got much to do today. Everyone have a great day!

Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 410242)

I think everybody gets the drift of "marketing" thank-you. They have an outstanding marketing department. What are are you attempting to convey?

Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 410242)

I think everybody gets the drift of "marketing" thank-you. They have an outstanding marketing department. What are are you attempting to convey?

Originally Posted by red tail (Post 410251)

appears to be very impressed with himself !