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crydzanich 03-29-2020 12:17 PM

DOH reported it. ,must be true.

yankygrl 03-29-2020 12:19 PM

As I understand it the FEMA mobile hospital will be near Ocala. I am an RN still licensed to practice in FL. I was interviewed recently by daily sun regarding this field hospital. I have not yet seen anything actually printed in the paper that it is here, up or anywhere close to operational.

yankygrl 03-29-2020 12:24 PM

Not travel related
 
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Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1735603)
It means it was passed locally not from travel etc.

2 of the 5 you are referring to ARE travel related- they took a cruise.

EdFNJ 03-29-2020 01:16 PM

"Enforcement" complaints must go to the Sumter County DOH. Email: DLCHD60WebManager@flhealth.gov and phone: 352-569-3102. Unfortunately The Villages can't or won't do anything to prevent this situation (regarding the large gatherings at LSL and other squares every evening) even with the "stay at home" emergency text message that scared the daylights out of me on my cellphone the other day.

birdiebill 03-29-2020 01:19 PM

While I strongly agree with the emergency e-mail message from the Florida Surgeon General, the message was an advisory, not an order. However, it is very important that we all stay at home as much as possible and only go out for essential activities such as the grocery store or the pharmacy. Whenever we are out and about, we MUST practice good social distancing in order to finally get control of the coronavirus outbreak and minimize the spread of the virus.

CoachKandSportsguy 03-29-2020 01:25 PM

FYI,

There is an old saying in finance, "Risk happens very fast!", and what you are witnessing is how the "low information" people and those wo have values about life and risk which are very different than yours, can create risk that happens very quickly. There is herd protection and herd risk. Distinguishing between the two is very situational, and being situationally aware can save lives.

In a prior life, I was an oil tanker captain, driving a gasoline or petrochemical bomb around. I have friends and acquaintances who are now no longer here because they didn't observe the proper situational risk. My college room lost his career because there was an accident which he missed a critical step, and someone was lost at sea. Luck plays a part, but you never want to rely on luck.

Better temporarily safe than permanently sorry.

sportsguy


sportsguy

TexaninVA 03-29-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RosemarySoso (Post 1736154)
And when they do get it, they will say “I was so careful”. Just ignorant and selfish

Yes, and then they will almost predictably blame (pick your favorite political leader here ... silently and to yourself) for their plight.

Rosebud1949 03-29-2020 02:04 PM

On my walk today, there they were at Saddlebrook Golf Course, 6-8 of them in a CIRCLE not 2 feet apart.. What is it about possible death from Covid -19 you dont understand. You WILL make the Villages CLOSE ALL courses and courts by your stupidity. or do you think you can have a last round before you TRAVEL back up north and take the virus back to your families....... UNBELIEVABLE but there they are, wish I could post the photo I took.... maybe next time...

Silver Streak 03-29-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 1735901)
Many people in TV live by the motto “ live free or die”

Unfortunately, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Rather the opposite, if by "live free" they mean ignoring the restrictions intended to keep us all safer.

Silver Streak 03-29-2020 02:27 PM

For those who keep comparing this virus to seasonal flu, keep this in mind:

February 28th was the date of the first Coronavirus death in the United States. It took until March 25th to reach 1,000 deaths. So 26 days to get the first 1,000 deaths.

Yesterday, March 28th, total deaths went over 2,000. It took only three days to get the second 1,000 deaths. Think about that.

Today it's March 29th and there's an outside possibility we will get to 3,000 total deaths today. If that happens, it would be 26 days to get to 1,000, three more days to get to 2,000, and one more day to get to 3,000.

Everyone MUST take this thing seriously! Please?

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-29-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marigold John (Post 1736063)
It so hard to understand why these people are oblivious to the on going Covert 19 Virus which is in the Villages and continues to spread everyday. The Surgeon General for the state of Florida yesterday issued an order stating that people who are 65+, and people with underlying health conditions must stay at home for the next two weeks. The people who are ignoring this order continue to put the rest of us in jeopardy. Because of the age group in the Villages we are very lightly to become the next hot spot of this epidemic due to their reckless behavior.

No the Surgeon General for the state of Florida did not issue such an order. The office of the Surgeon General issued a WARNING - not an order - saying that people 65 or older SHOULD stay home. Should does not equal must.

There is a very significant difference.

Mumbles 03-29-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 1735827)
The OP only has a JPEG picture of the beginning of an article. How about posting a link to the actual article so we can read it and draw our own conclusions instead of parroting the misinformation that seems so prevalent on this topic.

My feeling is that people will post what they FEEL more often than what they KNOW from verifiable facts. 2 Minutes of Fame.

New Englander 03-29-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1736116)
So ,simple--the entire virus started with ONE person--simple math-take a penny and double it every day @ the end of 30 days it would be over $5 million & thats a fact--these 20 idiots or more can infect a lot of people





That's right. These same idiots go to supermarkets like all of us and possibly spread it there.

Mumbles 03-29-2020 03:07 PM

Incorrect identification
 
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Originally Posted by Marigold John (Post 1736063)
It so hard to understand why these people are oblivious to the on going Covert 19 Virus which is in the Villages and continues to spread everyday. The Surgeon General for the state of Florida yesterday issued an order stating that people who are 65+, and people with underlying health conditions must stay at home for the next two weeks. The people who are ignoring this order continue to put the rest of us in jeopardy. Because of the age group in the Villages we are very lightly to become the next hot spot of this epidemic due to their reckless behavior.

Like the fellow who wrote for UPI, I'd too would like to clear up the spelling of what is killings us. The following comes from the World Health Organization:


Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it
Official names have been announced for the virus responsible for COVID-19 (previously known as “2019 novel coronavirus”) and the disease it causes. The official names are:

Disease

coronavirus disease
(COVID-19)

Virus

severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
(SARS-CoV-2)

patfla06 03-29-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1735677)
The folks who were, again, crowding Lake Sumter Square this evening....no parking spaces on the square.....tables and chairs and tail gating all around the square and filled the area where the radio station and covered picnic tables.....absolutely no social distancing anywhere.

No different than the pictures of all the young people on the beaches for spring break.....except older...BUT NOT ANY SMARTER!!

As a result of the few we need a stay at home 'ORDER" with enforcement and stiff fines.

These are the grandparents of the Spring Break kids.

sonyaschuschel 03-29-2020 04:31 PM

If you don’t wear a mask /gloves around other persons , you are a spreader whether or not you have symptoms at the moment and The penalty may be illness & a quick death from pneumonia.

golfing eagles 03-29-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sonyaschuschel (Post 1736329)
If you don’t wear a mask /gloves around other persons , you are a spreader whether or not you have symptoms at the moment and The penalty may be illness & a quick death from pneumonia.

Some people spread the virus, others just spread ridiculous nonsense

oldtimes 03-29-2020 05:45 PM

Right now I am more afraid of the stupidity than the virus. I hope the stupidity is not contagious.

Mendy 03-29-2020 06:06 PM

BE SMART and listen to the experts (Doctors and Scientists, not politicians)
 
Here are 2 videos that clearly and simply explain how coronavirus affects people. PLEASE WATCH

The Coronavirus Explained & What You Should Do - YouTube

HOW COVID-19 KILLS--I'm a Surgeon--And Why We Can't Save You - YouTube

jarodrig 03-29-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1735677)
The folks who were, again, crowding Lake Sumter Square this evening....no parking spaces on the square.....tables and chairs and tail gating all around the square and filled the area where the radio station and covered picnic tables.....absolutely no social distancing anywhere.

No different than the pictures of all the young people on the beaches for spring break.....except older...BUT NOT ANY SMARTER!!

As a result of the few we need a stay at home 'ORDER" with enforcement and stiff fines.

So, WHY are YOU at the squares ????

billethkid 03-29-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jarodrig (Post 1736396)
So, WHY are YOU at the squares ????

Last I heard there was no risk driving by in an air conditioned car with the windows up.

We went to see if what we heard was really true...going for a ride from time to time. We are in the high (er) risk pool and do shelter stay at home. A short ride every day helps avoid cabin fever (some).

jarodrig 03-29-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1736410)
Last I heard there was no risk driving by in an air conditioned car with the windows up.

We went to see if what we heard was really true...going for a ride from time to time. We are in the high (er) risk pool and do shelter stay at home. A short ride every day helps avoid cabin fever (some).

I figured such a response !!!!

Does your car have HEPPA filters installed ??? If not , you might be at risk just driving by !!! LOL

FYI , the squares have live streaming cameras installed so that you can sit in the safe comfort of your home and snoop without any risk at all ....;)

Entertainment | The Villages

billethkid 03-29-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jarodrig (Post 1736421)
I figured such a response !!!!

Does your car have HEPPA filters installed ??? If not , you might be at risk just driving by !!! LOL 😂

FYI , the squares have live streaming cameras installed so that you can sit in the safe comfort of your home and snoop without any risk at all ....;)

Trying to remain polite I will just :pray:

jarodrig 03-29-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1736427)
Trying to remain polite I will just :pray:

I’m being polite as well ..... I added a link for your viewing pleasure .... :)

Jerry101 03-29-2020 07:28 PM

You get an A+ and extra credit for stating so eloquently the faults in what is labeled as journalism today. THANK YOU!!!

jarodrig 03-29-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1736445)
You get an A+ and extra credit for stating so eloquently the faults in what is labeled as journalism today. THANK YOU!!!

If you don’t use “reply with quote “ , no one will know who you are referring to .....

Jerry101 03-29-2020 07:57 PM

BRAVO & thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by JackRussell (Post 1735719)
As a former UPI reporter I gave this article a D- minus. Community Spread is not defined by the writer, yet it's a key descriptor in the headline. Even the suggestion of its plain meaning, that the Community is seeing the virus advance because of something the community shouldn't be doing - is unsubstantiated.

"A serious outbreak inside the community could have devastating effects. Most who show symptoms from the virus develop a fever or cough and may have trouble breathing, though they do recover.

Consider this two-sentence paragraph. Couldn't the first sentence be said of any community? This has nothing pertinent to offer readers with an interest specific to The Villages.

"Prior to the opening of the testing site, The Villages slowly began to shut down its expansive social scene. That’s after the community — which leans Republican — had sought to downplay the virus’s affects as President Donald Trump repeatedly expressed confidence the virus would be contained inside the U.S."

First, it's effects, not affects. This writer has a law degree, which made me marvel not only at his spelling, but also at his assertion that the community had sought to downplay the "virus's affects" (sic). In my opinion, his statement is invidious and made without any substantiation. His additional reference to politics (apparently the real cause of the spread of infection) is another irrelevant injection in what purported to be a story about disease. And when did the president ever state that the virus would be contained within the US? Let me be clear, the Wuhan virus started in...where was it?...oh, yeah, Wuhan. How can it be contained in the US?

I know, he means something else. But that's why E.B. White said you should re-read your own work, because while you think you may have said what you meant, chances are very good you haven't.

He also uses a couple propaganda devices to take a swipe at the president. One is "Authority". He quotes a nurse (a healthcare authority) but he doesn't quote her on healthcare. He quotes her on politics to leverage her authority into an area it doesn't apply. He uses her to spread the false claim that people (Trump has been the one accused of this) have called the virus a hoax. Here is what he said:

"One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax that was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.” (DJT 2/28/20)

Finally, he uses her comment on the awakening of the community as though this one person has her finger on The Villages pulse. That's just bad judgment. Maybe D-minus is generous.

Thanks for dissecting such a lame excuse of ‘journalism’. Google the AP writer’s story on the virus & The Villages that is now about a week old. It was worse! Same blabber about the ‘right-leaning’ Villagers! GOD help us!

wisbad1 03-29-2020 09:14 PM

Still can’t believe how a group of people (6-8) still walking in a group with dogs around Eisenhower every day. Stupid, who’s going to walk dogs when they die?

TomPerrett 03-29-2020 10:25 PM

Spread
 
One can have this virus from two to three weeks without symptoms all the time infecting others.

It can be spread by touch. The infected person touches the grocery cart handle then you touch it and now you are infected

It can be spread lots of other ways also it’s very contagious.

coffeebean 03-30-2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TomPerrett (Post 1736488)
One can have this virus from two to three weeks without symptoms all the time infecting others.

It can be spread by touch. The infected person touches the grocery cart handle then you touch it and now you are infected

It can be spread lots of other ways also it’s very contagious.

If you have the virus on your hands, you become infected if you touch your face (eyes, nose or mouth). Everything I have read and seen on TV, all the experts claim to keep your hands away from your face and you will not contract the virus in this manner.

Droplets in your eyes, nose or mouth is another mode of transmission for the virus. Not sure about airborne transmission; that is very scary if airborne actually is proven to be a mode of transmission.

jarodrig 03-30-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TomPerrett (Post 1736488)

The infected person touches the grocery cart handle then you touch it and now you are infected

.

That statement is simply ridiculous !!!!!!!

You won’t get the virus by simply touching an area that “Might” be infected.....

That being said, if you then lick your fingers or pick your nose or stick your finger in your eye , then maybe .....LOL !!!!

Dcurrie911 03-30-2020 08:36 PM

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6 feet apart? No judgement, just interesting.

Topspinmo 03-30-2020 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1736280)
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That's right. These same idiots go to supermarkets like all of us and possibly spread it there.

Infected by people who traveled and caught it.

Topspinmo 03-30-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1736994)
If you have the virus on your hands, you become infected if you touch your face (eyes, nose or mouth). Everything I have read and seen on TV, all the experts claim to keep your hands away from your face and you will not contract the virus in this manner.

Droplets in your eyes, nose or mouth is another mode of transmission for the virus. Not sure about airborne transmission; that is very scary if airborne actually is proven to be a mode of transmission.

It is proven if you’re within coughing distance. Add number ___ in the blank what consider coughing distances. So far the experts say it won’t travel 6 feet? Now if you saying it lives and floats through air and travel in air stream fail when rains or down draft we’re up creek.

Kerry Azz 03-31-2020 07:54 AM

China virus?

GoodLife 03-31-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcurrie911 (Post 1737051)
6 feet apart? No judgement, just interesting.


They are all taking hydroxycholoroquine :icon_wink:

bilcon 03-31-2020 08:08 AM

Check out page B3 Localnews section of today's Daily S--. 50 people in a driveway recently in Haciendas of Mission Hills. Seriously? And the Daily S--prints the picture like it was a great thing. Some people are just clueless. OH, but they kept their appropriate distance. It must have been quite a big driveway. BS

TexaninVA 03-31-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 1735584)
5 community spread cases in The Villages.

I was out walking last night, taking care to keep at least six feet away from other walkers and cart-drivers. Was doing the right thing. It was a nice evening and I was enjoying a podcast while I walked.

Then, an oblivious woman overtook me from behind, and passed me about two feet away.

When I shouted out, she seemed surprised. :ohdear:

Maybe I need to start walking & holding a side view mirror?

jarodrig 03-31-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1737269)
I was out walking last night, taking care to keep at least six feet away from other walkers and cart-drivers. Was doing the right thing. It was a nice evening and I was enjoying a podcast while I walked.

Then, an oblivious woman overtook me from behind, and passed me about two feet away.

When I shouted out, she seemed surprised. :ohdear:

Maybe I need to start walking & holding a side view mirror?

Or maybe you should pick up your pace a bit !! LOL 😂

coffeebean 03-31-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1737073)
It is proven if you’re within coughing distance. Add number ___ in the blank what consider coughing distances. So far the experts say it won’t travel 6 feet? Now if you saying it lives and floats through air and travel in air stream fail when rains or down draft we’re up creek.

The experts have not said for sure if the virus is airborne. In fact, I watched a video of a pulmonary doctor on the front lines in NYC. That video is posted on TOTV. He said there are only two ways to contract this virus and airborne is not one of them.We all know by now what the two modes of transmission are.


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