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retiredguy123 07-06-2023 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232596)
You got that right. And the last I looked they are still marketing the Villages as having three movie theaters. It is just that two of them are not open.


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You are being too kind. They are just flat out lying about having three theaters. I have asked them several times to update their website, and they have refused to do it. It is an intentional lie.

Babubhat 07-06-2023 07:13 PM

Streaming crushed movie theaters. Why AMC went under.

Hardlyworking 07-06-2023 07:33 PM

Maybe the developer will lease the theater to some enterprising movie buff and they can take a run at it.

Papa_lecki 07-06-2023 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2232663)
You are being too kind. They are just flat out lying about having three theaters. I have asked them several times to update their website, and they have refused to do it. It is an intentional lie.

Yes, they know if they remove the three theaters from the web site, NO ONE will move here and buy houses.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-06-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2232668)
Yes, they know if they remove the three theaters from the web site, NO ONE will move here and buy houses.

Point missed.

Throughout the history of The Villages, potential homebuyers were drawn to the community because of various amenities, activities, features. Over time, some of the features were replaced, and others simply eliminated.

If they will intentionally mislead potential homebuyers over something as benign as "three movie theatres" vs. "one movie theatre" what else will they intentionally mislead potential homebuyers about?

Stu from NYC 07-06-2023 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2232671)
Point missed.

Throughout the history of The Villages, potential homebuyers were drawn to the community because of various amenities, activities, features. Over time, some of the features were replaced, and others simply eliminated.

If they will intentionally mislead potential homebuyers over something as benign as "three movie theatres" vs. "one movie theatre" what else will they intentionally mislead potential homebuyers about?

Friendliest home town?

Stu from NYC 07-06-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworking (Post 2232666)
Maybe the developer will lease the theater to some enterprising movie buff and they can take a run at it.

Have you noticed that movie theaters are not being opened by movie buffs? For better or worse the economics of movie theaters have changed and the industry is shrinking.

Taltarzac725 07-06-2023 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2232693)
Have you noticed that movie theaters are not being opened by movie buffs? For better or worse the economics of movie theaters have changed and the industry is shrinking.

I would say that movie making is booming but it is now on many platforms with many more countries getting involved in it as well as many more states in the US. Hollywood is spread out all over the United States.

Goldwingnut 07-06-2023 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2232569)
Do you think the developer has plans for a movie theatre in Middleton, with all the families that will be living there, and thus the reason for not re-opening Brownwood? Those families in Middleton will be far from theatre options. I know I am speculating here.

With quality movies, I would be going to Brownwood 3-4 times a week to see movies. I also would go to all the “special event” reissue of older classic movies that came to the theatres.

Nothing I’ve seen in any plans or flights over the downtown area of Middletown indicate any plans or intentions to build a building big enough for a multi screen theater (single screen theater don’t make money). While some theaters are still popular and profitable, many are not and the trend continues to worsen nationwide. Younger audiences have different viewing preferences- phones and tablets - and do not desire to enjoy the big screen experience that previous generations have.

The low attendance at LSL’s theaters continue to prove the lack of profitability of the current market. The developer is not everyone’s rich uncle who is here to provide for our every wish, they are a business and businesses exist to make a profit. That’s not a bad thing, it’s how most of us living here in the villages were able to get here, the companies we worked for or owned made a profit and we received a portion of the profits, saved some of it, and eventually retired here.

So to the OP, your petition idea is a waste of time, a fool’s errand. If you want the theater opened the prove the developer’s business decision is wrong, open you checkbook, lease the property and make it a profitable business venture. Don’t expect someone else to fund your fool’s errand.

Don’t agree with me, fine, prove me wrong.

Taltarzac725 07-06-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2232702)
Nothing I’ve seen in any plans or flights over the downtown area of Middletown indicate any plans or intentions to build a building big enough for a multi screen theater (single screen theater don’t make money). While some theaters are still popular and profitable, many are not and the trend continues to worsen nationwide. Younger audiences have different viewing preferences- phones and tablets - and do not desire to enjoy the big screen experience that previous generations have.

The low attendance at LSL’s theaters continue to prove the lack of profitability of the current market. The developer is not everyone’s rich uncle who is here to provide for our every wish, they are a business and businesses exist to make a profit. That’s not a bad thing, it’s how most of us living here in the villages were able to get here, the companies we worked for or owned made a profit and we received a portion of the profits, saved some of it, and eventually retired here.

So to the OP, your petition idea is a waste of time, a fool’s errand. If you want the theater opened the prove the developer’s business decision is wrong, open you checkbook, lease the property and make it a profitable business venture. Don’t expect someone else to fund your fool’s errand.

Don’t agree with me, fine, prove me wrong.

Again. The Villages is not made up of 20-30 year olds. It is made up of people from maybe 45 to 100+ years young. People who grew up with access to big screens in many theaters.

It is a question of promises made and not kept. Three open movie theaters is stated plainly TODAY on their website. It is a selling point.

Hardlyworking 07-07-2023 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2232693)
Have you noticed that movie theaters are not being opened by movie buffs? For better or worse the economics of movie theaters have changed and the industry is shrinking.

Yeah but there seems to be so manu movie buffs that think TV shout reopen and lose money, why not the buffs give it a whirl. Sarcasm much?

rsmurano 07-07-2023 04:15 AM

Sumter already has a movie theater and it’s not sold out. I also heard the Springs has a theater that charges for old flicks, that’s something I wouldn’t do, I can stream those. I do go once and a while to new movie releases at Sumter sq.

Worldseries27 07-07-2023 05:12 AM

Does it always have to be about the money? What about restoring the villages to mr schwartz's ideals. A man of class and vision.

KShowalter 07-07-2023 05:15 AM

Drive In Theaters
 
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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2232585)
If they would sell me the theatre for .5m I would seriously consider it. At least worth getting the stats on it. I was thinking a golf cart drive in would be fun in TV. In SRQ during the pandemic years we held a drive in on weekends at UTC. Filled every spot every weekend.

We still have a drive-in theater in my home town in Virginia and it is packed every weekend. Half of the theater is G=Rated and half is R-Rated so everyone gets to come. There is a concession stand. This theater has been written up in the Washington Post as one of the last ones in business but it remains successful. The movies shown are all current for the most part. The idea of a outdoor golf cart theater would be great.

As far as the playhouse I would love to see it open as well for movies, comedy acts, boozy bingo, etc.; anything to keep it's doors open.

SusanStCatherine 07-07-2023 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232639)
The developers already have made themselves millions. But they do still advertise the Villages as having three movie theaters. It is not about making money but having things like pickleball courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, billiard tables, dancing venues, etc. Quality of life for the home owners and their families. And movie theaters were part of that promise.

But this is a company town so they can pretty much do whatever they want until people leaving makes them do something else.

Billions not Millions. The Morse family's wealth was over $3 billion way back in 2018,. Mark Morse, Jennifer Parr, and Tracy (Mathews for awhile) Morse are all billionaires.


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