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jimkerr 07-07-2023 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bea&Mike (Post 2232557)

You can’t force someone to open a business if they don’t want to. This is America. The Morse family already publicly told us they wouldn’t reopen it.

If you think it’s such a great business idea, why don’t you talk to the villages commercial properties and lease the space and open your own theater?

retiredguy123 07-07-2023 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Freehiker (Post 2232779)
Feedback doesn’t require a response.

I don't understand your point. I didn't need a response to the feedback message, but they decided to not correct the website information that I described in the feedback message. Also, they did not return phone calls when I left voicemails.

Goldwingnut 07-07-2023 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232703)
Again. The Villages is not made up of 20-30 year olds. It is made up of people from maybe 45 to 100+ years young. People who grew up with access to big screens in many theaters.

It is a question of promises made and not kept. Three open movie theaters is stated plainly TODAY on their website. It is a selling point.

The comment I was responding to was about the possibility of a theater in Middleton, again, not very likely.

With respect to the website showing 3 theaters, it is out of date and should be updated no doubt. However if you click on the links, only the LSL theater give schedule information, the rest are dead ends. We know that SS is dead, BW presents a bigger challenge for repurposing simply due to the size of the facility. While I don’t believe it is a willful deception, it is a minor inaccuracy that should be corrected, at least for SS.

If there not being more movie theaters in The Villages is a huge negative then I do not suggest you move away because you’ll more than likely be disappointed in short order no matter where you move to as the theater industry is imploding upon itself on a daily basis.

There are some very astute business people running the commercial districts of The Villages and if they don’t thing a theater can be profitable in this age demographic then I’ll side with them on this one. But, if someone thinks otherwise I’m sure they’ll lease them the facilities so they can have a go at it with their wallets at risk.

BlueStarAirlines 07-07-2023 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2232724)
Does it always have to be about the money? What about restoring the villages to mr schwartz's ideals. A man of class and vision.

Didn't know Mr Schwartz or have any idea about his ideals. I've only lived in TV 18 months, but have only gone to 1 movie in a theatre in that time....and it was free during my lifestyle visit. I can wait for a few weeks and stream at home any movie that is currently in a theatre. If the LSL ended their $6 mondays, I bet the attendance numbers would be cut in half.

There is nothing a theatre provides that I don't have at home.

Goldwingnut 07-07-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2232724)
Does it always have to be about the money? What about restoring the villages to mr schwartz's ideals. A man of class and vision.

Surly you jest, HS was first and foremost a businessman, all you need do is study up on his background and early business dealings to know he was in it to be successful, and in business success is always about the bottom line, making a profit.

While I never met the man, I have many friends who knew him and did business with him and his son that have shared with me their impressions and experiences of dealing with an aggressive and focused team of businessmen. They were first and foremost salesmen, not the lowlife used car or snake oil type salesmen, but salesmen and businessmen 100% of the time. Yes they took great pride and believed in the product that they were selling. These men, and their descendants currently running the business, are focused on being successful and this has benefited both themselves, the residents who have chosen to move here, as well as the surrounding communities and many businesses that have grown as result of their efforts and vision.

So yes, it does have to be about the money. It ALWAYS has been and ALWAYS will be, because this is a business.

charlie1 07-07-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2232724)
Does it always have to be about the money? What about restoring the villages to mr schwartz's ideals. A man of class and vision.

Mr. Schwartz was a smart businessman! His vision was amazing! But do not be fooled. He never gave anything away. He just invested in the future! Everything he did was to bring in sales and profits. It worked and made the Family billions! I applaud him for his vision and the execution of the vision. I am sure that if he was still with us, he would continue to invest in the things that bring in sales and profits! The Theaters will not! They are dying all over the country! The Family has to continue to change its vision also as society changes. Again, Mr. Schwartz would be changing also. He showed us this again and again as The Villages developed.
He never stopped changing his vision and/or direction. If he had stopped the Villages would today consist of only the original trailer court! Let's give the whole family credit! They have followed Mr. Schwartz leadership example!

Jayhawk 07-07-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232659)
Many of the movies I have gone to of late at the Old Mill Playhouse were almost full to capacity especially on Monday All Seats $6.

Six-dollar tickets one day a week to old-timers who smuggle in their popcorn and drinks from home is a real money-making opportunity.

billethkid 07-07-2023 07:49 AM

Are those stating support willing to buy into an annual "movie theater membership" plus admission fees to sustain the establishments viability??

With prices continuing to go up as the participation dwindles.....like it has as evidenced by the closing of 2 of the 3 theaters.

Of course I jest!

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Taltarzac725 07-07-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2232824)
Six-dollar tickets one day a week to old-timers who smuggle in their popcorn and drinks from home is a real money-making opportunity.

What is it that you people do not get? Movie theaters like basketball courts are features for homeowners and their visiting family members leading better lives in the Villages rather than having to go to Ocala or Leesburg to see movies on the big screens.

It is not about making money. I doubt if any of the Villages' theaters here ever made much of a profit. Any of them. You need a chain of them really to compete.

Jayhawk 07-07-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232639)
It is not about making money but having things like pickleball courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, billiard tables, dancing venues, etc. Quality of life for the home owners and their families. And movie theaters were part of that promise.

Nothing is PROMISED in business results. If it was, Ford would still be making the Edsel. And throwing money towards a losing proposition would take away from all the other things you listed (pickleball courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, billiard tables, dancing venues, etc). Sounds like a good decision to me.

Even Hollywood knows movies are dying.

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Taltarzac725 07-07-2023 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bea&Mike (Post 2232557)

Congrats on getting past a thousand signatures!!!

Taltarzac725 07-07-2023 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2232843)
Nothing is PROMISED in business results. If it was, Ford would still be making the Edsel. And throwing money towards a losing proposition would take away from all the other things you listed (pickleball courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, billiard tables, dancing venues, etc). Sounds like a good decision to me.

Even Hollywood knows movies are dying.

25 movie stars who made the move to TV | Yardbarker

Throwing money? How much would reopening Brownwood's theater cost? Not very much. Not for the developers. It would cost a great deal for someone else though. And I am sure the developers would ask for an arm and a leg.

tophcfa 07-07-2023 08:09 AM

The petition will get filed right next to the petitions to reopen Katie Bells, rebuild the clubhouse, restaurant, pool, and tennis courts at Hacienda Hills, and bring back the farmers market and two hour happy hour at Spanish Springs.

Taltarzac725 07-07-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2232848)
The petition will get filed right next to the petitions to reopen Katie Bells, rebuild the clubhouse, restaurant, pool, and tennis courts at Hacienda Hills, and bring back the farmers market and two hour happy hour at Spanish Springs.

Probably true. It is the green they are after. They will put something in where they can get 4 times the profit of the movie theater.

Jayhawk 07-07-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2232840)
What is it that you people do not get? Movie theaters like basketball courts are features for better leading better lives in the Villages rather than having to go to Ocala or Leesburg to see movies on the big screens.

It is not about making money. I doubt if the theaters here ever made much of a profit. Any of them. You need a chain of them really to compete.

Out of 130,000 + residents fewer than a couple hundred pay to go to movies daily around here. So the Great Benefactor should use their money to support what you admit are fiscally losing businesses?

I'll return the same question - What is it that you people do not get?

And by the way, similar to the current theater situation, I've never seen a busy basketball court anywhere in The Villages.


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