I agree Rubicon. But I think it still boils down, in many cases, to the driving impaired and self-centered narcissists feeling the surge of power from blocking 60 cars behind them. If they moved to the right the left lane could move at a much more reasonable pace.

After reading a lot of the responses, I think I'll stick with my original observation. :popcorn:

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Then welcome to your new theme song:

"I love the sense of camaraderie when an entire line of cars team
up to prevent a jerk from cutting in at the front. Stay strong,
brothers and sisters!"

Rubi, rubi, ru (sounds like a Frank Sinatra song) If you read all of my posts you would have seen that I was kinda defending you being in the left lane while the cop passed you in the right lane. It's the post where I said the law is stupid. Oh, and the speed limit isn't 45 mph from 441 to 301, it starts out as 35 at 441 then it goes to 40 mph then 45 just before Rolling Acres.
You have a good memory though! But, the law states that even if you are going the speed limit in the left lane and some yahoo wants to go faster, you could be issued a summons. That's why I said the law was stupid. It's not good for local roads and should be enforced on roads like the turnpike and I75.

LOL, I was referring more to content and not so much proper eingrish. :a20:

People driving while impaired and self centered narcissists in The Villages?

No way!!!!:bowdown:

I know exactly what the law says. I was the one the posted in 6 month ago when this can up for the umpteen time.
IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN On multi-lane highways. I understand if I am going 100 mph in the left lane and some ones going 110mph I move over which I do even when I am speeding. No police officer going give anyone ticket driving in the left lane IF THEY ARE NOT impeding traffic period. Why? They have more Important fish to fry.

Now if the law has changed please post the change. I am too lazy to look it up again.

None of which has anything to do with your previous post I was disagreeing with.

When on routine patrol or in civilian vehicle LEOS are suppose follow traffic laws like the rest of use. But, you right! Who going to give them ticket, citzen arrest :1rotfl:

I see a few leos breaking ever about traffic law when not responding to what ever. Not using turns signals, not stopping behind stop signs, rolling through stop signs, changing lane without signaling to name few. For fantasy no one is above the law.

:bigbow::bigbow:

The exact point for the road sign to stay right. No one is saying stay in the right lane so people can speed by you. Not what so ever. It helps keep the traffic flowing. The car in the left should have gotten stopped, but no police around. But if you follow the sign, then there is not the issue. That is what the sign and law of the lane is for.

As far as the Big trucks on the interstate, The left lane is forbidden for a tractor-trailer to use if there are 3 or more lanes in most states, Got out on 75 and you will see signs stating that. The reason is because you got a lot of trucks that were set to 60 or 65 mph by their company. If a truck gets caught in the left lane or lanes then it is ticket time. 150.00 on I-285 loop in Atlanta. Got one of those tickets years back.

It is just common courtesy to stay right. I had my daughter driving on 466 the other day, We were in the right lane doing maybe 45. 2 cars approached us from behind. moving faster than we were by far. Told her just keep your speed, they will go by us.

We are a nation of that adheres to the "rule of law". the "rule of law" says no one is above the law. Are you saying that this sheriff is above the law? are you saying only us commoners are subject to the law? don't bother responding they are rhetorical questions

fair enough and it s all good. for ease of reading sake I wasn't about to give a detailed account of the various speed zones all the way up and down 466

all of this conversation is really about the growing pangs in The villages and surrounding communities. the infrastructure is simply not keeping up.

Personal Best Regards:

316.081 Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions.—
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement;

(b) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway; provided any person so doing shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the highway within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard;

(c) Upon a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon; or

(d) Upon a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic.

(2) Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

(4) Upon any roadway having four or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for two-way movement of traffic, no vehicle shall be driven to the left of the centerline of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use such lanes, or except as permitted under paragraph (1)(b). However, this subsection shall not be construed as prohibiting the crossing of the centerline in making a left turn into or from an alley, private road, or driveway.

(5) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.

The LAW everybody talking about. I especially like para. (3) and the BIG IF word. :popcorn::boom:

Rubie, Your previous posts have always been precise and factual to the point of being way beyond the ease of reading and I say that with the utmost respect. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

The second part of the above quoted post refers to the growing pangs in The Villages and surrounding communities. This is exactly why I think the speed limit on 466 should be lowered at least in the heavily commercialized area between Buena Vista and 301. I know that quite a few do not agree and that's ok but I feel that there are too many entrances and exits and too many drivers that don't know precisely when they need to turn either left or right due to unfamiliarity of the area, senior driving habits, or the "I'm retired and not in a hurry" attitude. Couple that with the still working class of drivers that are in a hurry and like to drive 5 mph over the speed limit because that is what is the nationally accepted amount over the speed limit is where supposedly you won't get a ticket and, you have a recipe for disaster. Then throw in the school zones and railroad crossing in the exact area I'm referring to. It can't happen but too bad an express lane couldn't be added. With all of the new construction going on in that area it's only gonna get worse. If I'm going to Wal-Mart I take 462 to 301 and avoid Buena Vista as much as I can but even that's an issue because it's very hard to make a right onto 301 where the speed limit is 55 mph. Another reason to shop online as much as possible. And now my index fingers need a rest..........

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No.

No.

Are you saying you know all the extenuating circumstances the Sheriff was dealing with?

Don't bother responding...just on general principles.

Food fight lol

My mention of semi trucks on the interstate (and some states who made it law for semis to use the LEFT lane) was to illustrate the serious problem states have had with semi's in a string in the right lane. Entrance-ramp merging cars could not get in and the entrance lane ends. Some of the states rescinded the "semis use left lane" law, but the problem still exists!

That is, the problem of everyone crammed in the right lane, while one or two lanes to the left are completely open, AND people are trying to merge in on the right and can't, because the right lane is full, bumper to bumper.

The two lanes to the left of the right lane were built to handle vehicle volume, not just passing.

The conversation has been about the left lane, not the left two lanes. And when there is enough traffic on the road that volume is a true issue, the point is moot...those are not the conditions the "keep right" law addresses.

I agree, Most drivers know when going through city the left lane or lanes for through traffic leaving the right lanes or lanes depending on how many lanes for merging or exiting. going through city in the right lane is as dangerous as some one driving way under the speed limit in the left lane. IMO More dangerous due to some knuckleheads don't look or yield to traffic when the merge, they just force their way on.

10-4 on the knuckleheads. Happened to me several times while driving my 45' motorhome. The solution?, those super loud air horns that got their attention instantly.

Yes, how many cities charge for the privilege of using a HON lane. Perhaps it does not equate to the 466 issue but it does explain what happens when
lanes become overcrowded....something has to give

I frequent 466. I have purposefully stayed in the right lane since this thread went up. It is not much of an issue if traffic is light. However with heavy traffic for those who desire to maintain the 45mph limit you are going to find that you will be doing a lot of zig zagging to maintain 45mph.

If I read Topsinmo's post correctly a driver has to stay in the right lane EXCEPT if a roadway is posted as one way. 466 is one way two lane/three lane . Perhaps some may disagree and I understand there are some cowboys out there but most drivers do what makes sense. the tempo of their speed, making their move etc all seem to work in keeping traffic flowing.

466 like 466A get a lot of traffic from people going to work traveling on vacation, etc I understand the "I;m retired"sentiment but these roads exist for more than just villagers.

Admittedly I am a time management guy and very conscious of how my time is used...but in fairness to me "time" is our most precious commodity and once gone it cannot be replaced.

"some will say well what's a second more" and I'll respond with a second here a second there and pretty soon your talking about serious time:D

The speed limit is the same for both lanes of a roadway. If you are going the speed limit in the left lane, there is no violation.

But probably causing a hazard..................

There is no violation for speeding. But there still can be a violation for blocking traffic...yes...even traffic exceeding the speed limit.

Driving south on 27/441 yesterday around 2pm, with heavy traffic, I thought how utterly preposterous it would be for everyone to be in the right lane unless making a left turn, passing, etc. The sign (and the law) are ridiculous for local roads that need 2 and sometimes 3 lanes to handle the traffic.

You are absolutely correct.

You're right. But the law in question simply does not apply to the situation you describe.

The law prohibits just cruising endlessly in the left lane blocking faster traffic when the right lane is available. "Heavy traffic" precludes such a situation.

photo1902: we probably were keyboarding about the same time. I made the same observation in post 102 as you did above. The posted traffic message by LOE is going to create confusion

But it's Crystal clear now, right?

"Crusing endlessly" , ha. Yeah right. There's so much opportunity for that around here and on local roads. Give me a break.

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Exactly.

That's why the law rarely even applies in TV. You mentioned "around here and on local roads". I didn't.

Give ME a break.

May get ticket if blocking the left lane . Read para. 3 . The big IF word. No Leo going to give someone ticket it they're not blocking traffic. If someone going 45 which is the limit and left lanes going 46 he is passing so they don't get ticket unless they are going the same exact speed or less. I don't like slow pokes in the left lane either, but until I see them getting tickets along with dozens of other violations it all hot air.

:agree:

:agree:

Then why put the sign up in The Villages. It doesn't make sense.

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Basic point...if there is a significant amount of traffic, everybody is blocking traffic to one degree or another. That's why the law rarely applies in TV.

I also would agree that no LEO is going to issue a citation unless it's an extreme case. I'm okay with that.

I cannot speak to the appropriateness of any given sign.

Why not work with the spirit of the law and sign message, and live on the wild side. Maintain a speed just a little bit faster than the right lane traffic. That way you are always in passing mode. And, as a bonus, you may get to exceed the speed limit a little bit. Win win.

spring-chicken: Until the LOE posted their sign drivers believed they were following the rules. If traffic was too slow to the right vehicles passed to the left. If traffic was slow in both the right and left lane drivers waited for an opportunity to make their move. Most drivers strive to at least keep traffic flow moving . Heck if your moving in most places its not traffic:D

Passing is one thing unsafe passing another the same with speed .

Again we clearly find those individuals with a philosophy of "what's your hurry your retired", except that if everyone adapted to that philosophy we would have bottlenecks 24/7 on the roads in and around The Villages. And yet I've witnessed a number of times over the years where retirees actually try and police a highway by blocking traffic. Again the highways were are talking about carry the public at large and many of them are not retired and are on a schedule

I try really try but Sunday drivers any day of the week test my patience

Yesterday I did little test speed. I drove exactly 35 MPH down BV 7 miles in the right lane. I got passed by 98 % of all vehicles. Actually it was hard to maintain the speed limit with everyone passing me. The only thing that broke my speed was after the stop light on 466 I had to slow down cause left lane vehicle would not speed up to let faster traffic go by.

I also observed how many other traffic laws were broke. Changing lanes with out using blinker light, not signaling when exiting round out causing north bound traffic to come to stop, changing lane in roundabout (entering In right lane, switching to left lane and exiting in the right lane) right lane going to the third exit to exit causing left lane traffic stand still. The obnoxious speeder going 10 to 15 MPH over the speed limit. My favor stopping at the roundabout when NO traffic is coming or in the roundabout. Like I said LEOS have bigger fish to fry.