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thomp679 01-21-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Back9 (Post 1711104)
No, the hardship you want imposed on everyone else is based on trivia and fear-crazed superstition.

Plastic is harmless when dumped in a landfill ("disposed of properly"). It's only a problem when people litter. Making the 95% of the people who dispose properly suffer because of the 5% who litter is aggressive agenda on your part -- eco-bullying , superstition-crazed, and power hungry.

Plastic is harmless when disposed of properly?? Turn the channel and think of someone other than yourself.

Topspinmo 01-21-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1711462)
I've had a Pina Colada with a paper straw. The straw collapsed before I was finished with the drink. I have never liked paper straws. I much prefer plastic in this case.

just get another straw:duck:

ColdNoMore 01-21-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1711466)
Plastic is harmless when disposed of properly?? Turn the channel and think of someone other than yourself.

Pretty amazing...eh? :oops:

George Makrauer 01-21-2020 01:44 PM

This "phasing out of plastic bags" is the result of a remarkably conceived and executed marketing conspiracy mounted by the American Paper Institute and the Paper Bag Institute going back to the 1960s, and is well documented here. Follow the money.

Additional participants included the Glass Packaging Institute, the aluminum industry trade association, the General Federation of Women's Clubs (really; read the linked documentary evidence which was originally created on request for the Federal Trade Commission), the Environmental Defense Fund, Greenpeace, the late (self-proclaimed; read his books) socialist professor Barry Commoner, and an assortment of other parties who viewed all things plastic as a COMMERCIAL, NOT ENVIRONMENTAL, industry competitor and disrupter of then traditional materials markets and competitor revenues.

Any questions, please message me.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-21-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1711390)
That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.

You are ALWAYS allowed to pack your own bags. I don't like other people bagging for me. I always bag my own.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-21-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1711462)
I've had a Pina Colada with a paper straw. The straw collapsed before I was finished with the drink. I have never liked paper straws. I much prefer plastic in this case.

I agree however paper isn't the only material available for straws anymore.

You can get metal straws which can be sterilized (boiled or sanitized), bamboo straws have made a pretty big hit, and you can buy straws made out of thick, sturdy, washable re-useable plastic (as opposed to single-use).

Aloha1 01-21-2020 01:59 PM

I've never seen a "greeter" at Publix. Walmart, yes but never Publix.

golfing eagles 01-21-2020 01:59 PM

Just wondering how many of those that vehemently despise plastic bags stand at the mail stations and throw their junk mail in the regular trash? Sort of like the celebrities who travel to environmental meetings on private jets and luxury yachts.

JoMar 01-21-2020 02:21 PM

Lots of differing opinions on this thread with, I assume some misinformation on both sides. Somewhere, some time, government will make the decisions for us since we can't get behind either side in mass. By the way, I got a reply from Publix Corporate and their only comment was they are committed to being environmentally responsible. It was a totally PC response :)

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-21-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1711490)
Just wondering how many of those that vehemently despise plastic bags stand at the mail stations and throw their junk mail in the regular trash? Sort of like the celebrities who travel to environmental meetings on private jets and luxury yachts.

Junk mail is made out of paper. Paper is fully biodegradeable and will compost easily in a landfill. Plastic is not biodegradeable, and will not compost at all.

While I don't like junk mail and definitely throw most of it away, I have fewer concerns about waste with it because of the fact that it will break down at the landfill.

Rapscallion St Croix 01-21-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1711497)
Lots of differing opinions on this thread with, I assume some misinformation on both sides. Somewhere, some time, government will make the decisions for us since we can't get behind either side in mass. By the way, I got a reply from Publix Corporate and their only comment was they are committed to being environmentally responsible. It was a totally PC response :)

Publix heavily funds lobbyists to fight anti-plastic bag legislation.

City commissioners: Publix stifles plastic ban | News | alligator.org

Two Bills 01-21-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by George Makrauer (Post 1711484)
This "phasing out of plastic bags" is the result of a remarkably conceived and executed marketing conspiracy mounted by the American Paper Institute and the Paper Bag Institute going back to the 1960s, and is well documented here. Follow the money.

Additional participants included the Glass Packaging Institute, the aluminum industry trade association, the General Federation of Women's Clubs (really; read the linked documentary evidence which was originally created on request for the Federal Trade Commission), the Environmental Defense Fund, Greenpeace, the late (self-proclaimed; read his books) socialist professor Barry Commoner, and an assortment of other parties who viewed all things plastic as a COMMERCIAL, NOT ENVIRONMENTAL, industry competitor and disrupter of then traditional materials markets and competitor revenues.
Any questions, please message me.

In 1960 no one had even considered the enviroment, and Greenpeace was not founded until 1971.

coffeebean 01-21-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1711468)
just get another straw:duck:

Now why didn't I think of that?

retiredguy123 01-21-2020 03:40 PM

The U.S. population makes up about 4.3 percent of the world population. Every human uses plastic. So, to me, this issue should be discussed as a global problem. Otherwise, what is the point? I like the plastic bags at Publix, and don't want to bring my own bags, unless everybody else in the world does the same.

anothersteve 01-21-2020 03:42 PM

https://www.ecoproducts.com/images/p...egradation.pdf

Steve

coffeebean 01-21-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1711489)
I've never seen a "greeter" at Publix. Walmart, yes but never Publix.

I called him a greeter but that was just my terminology when describing...........

......... the guy who was standing at the entrance of Publix who was giving out key rings with a tiny fabric re-usable bag attached to it that said "Don't forget your re-usable bags" and was informing everyone who came in the store that Publix will be phasing out plastic bags in the near future. Whew, that was a mouthful!!!

I've never seen a "greeter" in Publix either. I guess I should have called him something else. Sorry to have confused the issue.

George Makrauer 01-21-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1711519)
In 1960 no one had even considered the enviroment, and Greenpeace was not founded until 1971.

READ THE LINKED DOCUMENT... I didn't say "1960"... I said "1960s"... a ten-year time-frame.

Shimpy 01-21-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1710896)
This is something that I consider to be environmental friendly and not helpful to me for shopping. This is one of the reasons I quit Sams. I like and don't mind paying for the extra mile that Publix goes to make shopping a pleasure. We find it to be much better than Kings or Wegman which we had in our previous life. I don't want to supply or pay for my own bags. Count me out. There are way too many other services available now a days to get food to the house. We LOVE PUBLIX, don't screw it up!

A side issue will be the amount of Dog Problem Threads will be increased if plastic bags are decreased.

Doing away with bags.....what is next? Maybe buying a TV without a box or maybe a toaster, pots and pans set etc.

Two Bills 01-21-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by George Makrauer (Post 1711533)
READ THE LINKED DOCUMENT... I didn't say "1960"... I said "1960s"... a ten-year time-frame.

.....and I said 1971. Outside the conspiracy lovers timeframe.

Nucky 01-21-2020 08:15 PM

Front end Manager at Publix on Bichara Blvd 3 PM today said listen up Jimmy Olsen. Tell Perry White Great Cesars Ghost, drop the Thread cause the Bags are staying. No formal notice from corporate cause he would be the guy who would have gotten notified. I give you my word I wrote his name down on the back of the receipt and shredded it, I think it was Larry.

It’s over kids onto something else?

Bigben007 01-21-2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1711390)
That’s fine as long as Publix allows me to pack my own bags. I stopped using the fabric bags because the bagging persons don’t know how to pack them. Latest example: I had dropped three bags on the counter for the bagging person as i checked out and he proceeded to stuff all of the contents into one bag while I payed the bill. It was so heavy and jammed with the groceries it was ridiculous. I went back to plastic after that last episode.


The exact thing happened to me. The next time I said, you can use all bags, not everything has to go in one bag, she said ok and still stuffed the bag.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-21-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigben007 (Post 1711577)
The exact thing happened to me. The next time I said, you can use all bags, not everything has to go in one bag, she said ok and still stuffed the bag.

So bag your own!

SO many people say "why do (the curse-word filter actually filtered out the word bag..gers) do such a lousy job, it's not hard, anyone can do it" and yet - they refuse to do it.

Honestly, it's pretty easy once you learn how. There's actually some small amount of skill, observation, and intuition required to properly bag groceries.

I double dare you to do your own from now on.

Aces4 01-21-2020 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1711584)
So bag your own!

SO many people say "why do (the curse-word filter actually filtered out the word bag..gers) do such a lousy job, it's not hard, anyone can do it" and yet - they refuse to do it.

Honestly, it's pretty easy once you learn how. There's actually some small amount of skill, observation, and intuition required to properly bag groceries.

I double dare you to do your own from now on.

Ridiculous. I can bag groceries better than you, I’m sure. What I can’t do when there are long lines is unload the cart, pack the bags and pay for the groceries all at once and they prefer you don’t pack your own. Yes, even when asked, they have overpacked the bags. Each to their own.

Schaumburger 01-22-2020 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Earlride (Post 1710977)
As a single, spur of the moment, grocer shopper, this doesn't work for me, not to mention ongoing attack on trees. I will focus on Winn-Dixie and Fresh Market going forward.

Just an idea...I keep several reusable canvas shopping bags in the back seat and trunk of my car. That may also work for you.

Rapscallion St Croix 01-22-2020 10:52 AM

The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

Aloha1 01-22-2020 01:16 PM

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CWGUY 01-22-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1711570)
Front end Manager at Publix on Bichara Blvd 3 PM today said listen up Jimmy Olsen. Tell Perry White Great Cesars Ghost, drop the Thread cause the Bags are staying. No formal notice from corporate cause he would be the guy who would have gotten notified. I give you my word I wrote his name down on the back of the receipt and shredded it, I think it was Larry.

It’s over kids onto something else?

:confused: This reply made me think of a question that I have been meaning to ask for some time now. Has anyone ever seen Nucky and Superman in the same room at the same time. I know I haven't. This can mean only one thing.......:super:

JoMar 01-22-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1711596)
Just an idea...I keep several reusable canvas shopping bags in the back seat and trunk of my car. That may also work for you.

I also keep one in each golf cart. We use the shopping list connected to our phones via Alexa so when I'm out and close to a Publix I check to app to see if anything has been added. Cuts down on the shopping trips.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-22-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1711722)
The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

It's not the only way. Another way is the method of acquisition. Plastic is made from oil - an unrenewable resource. You can't plant an oil deposit and let it grow from seed. Most paper is made from wood - a 100% renewable resource. You can plant a tree and cut it down when it's grown, and replace it with another sapling, over and over again, ad infinitum.

Bogie Shooter 01-22-2020 06:29 PM

Ah yes, I heard in the last days someone very high in the federal gov’t said.....the US will be planting one trillion trees.

coffeebean 01-22-2020 07:32 PM

The latest info from Colony Publix
 
I spoke to a manager today at Colony Publix about the phasing out of plastic bags. This is what was said........

I questioned why some Publix stores are not aware of the phasing out of plastic bags. I was told that Colony Publix is the busiest store in the area so they receive information before the other stores.

I was told Publix, as a company, would like to completely phase out plastic bags. However, the company will be supplying less bags to the stores and will be charging the customers for the plastic bags. The amount to be charged for the plastic bags is unknown at this time and when this will be implemented is also unknown.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-22-2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1711834)
I spoke to a manager today at Colony Publix about the phasing out of plastic bags. This is what was said........

I questioned why some Publix stores are not aware of the phasing out of plastic bags. I was told that Colony Publix is the busiest store in the area so they receive information before the other stores.

I was told Publix, as a company, would like to completely phase out plastic bags. However, the company will be supplying less bags to the stores and will be charging the customers for the plastic bags. The amount to be charged for the plastic bags is unknown at this time and when this will be implemented is also unknown.

This is part of a nationwide trend. It's most prevalent along the coastal states (west and east), but as has been mentioned in several posts (not just by me) - Aldi's has been doing it this way from the get-go. It doesn't matter WHY they've been doing it - the fact is, they've been doing it all along.

Big box stores do it as well, so most people should have some experience, however limited, with having to either a) bring your own bags, b) buy bags at the store, or c) take empty case boxes from the store instead of bags.

carhirsch 01-22-2020 10:01 PM

Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

Two Bills 01-22-2020 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carhirsch (Post 1711859)
Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

Can't get many groceries in them!:icon_wink:

patfla06 01-22-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1710982)
Oh, BTW, In case my previous posts give you the wrong idea about my attitude, I'm all for recycling, saving the environment, etc. I just object to someone else mandating it and shoving it down my throat. George Orwell is mumbling in his grave "I told you so"

Thank you!

And there are items like RAW MEAT that should
be put in plastic so it doesn’t leak or contaminate anything.

ColdNoMore 01-22-2020 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1711722)
The only way paper wins in any environmental category is in the disposal portion of its life cycle.

That's like saying; "The only way nuclear loses as a fuel source...is in the "disposal portion of its life-cycle."


Particularly, since the thread exists because of plastic's...complete life-cycle. :ohdear:

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-22-2020 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1711864)
Thank you!

And there are items like RAW MEAT that should
be put in plastic so it doesn’t leak or contaminate anything.

The super-thin bags used for packing meat and produce wouldn't be eliminated, even if they do get rid of the grocery bags. You'll still be able to use those, and protect the rest of your groceries.

OR YOU CAN BUY THEM ON AMAZON which I've said several times. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that, if they absolutely can't possibly stand to live without a plastic bag that they're going to throw away when they get home anyway.

patfla06 01-22-2020 10:47 PM

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queasy27 01-22-2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1710942)
I see no news articles, and nothing on Publix website, indicating any official change in their current policy - which is to encourage and heavily promote the use and purchase of re-usable bags.

Ah. So that's why every checkout clerk robotically says, "Thank you for bringing a bag."

I never liked the change from paper to plastic and have been using my own bags for decades. I leave four large and small bags in the car for groceries, CVS, takeout, etc.

Remember when we all lined our kitchen garbage cans with paper bags? I wonder if the requirement for plastic trash bags will ever be revisited ...

Big box stores don't offer bags and we all adapted to that. Maybe not Nucky. :)

coffeebean 01-23-2020 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by carhirsch (Post 1711859)
Use the bag your newspaper is delivered in.

Not everyone has the paper delivered.


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