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Berwin 09-23-2023 05:15 AM

I always enjoy hearing people complaining about dog owners not picking up their dog's poop from their lawn not realizing that we have numerous wild animals roaming our lawns from dusk till dawn every night.

jebartle 09-23-2023 05:30 AM

Please pass the popcorn! This problem never goes away!
It's the old golden rule.

Captainpd 09-23-2023 05:33 AM

Next time
 
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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

Next time you go out to eat, Make sure you pee or poop before you go. If you are so smart, you shouldn't have to ever pee/poop except at your house.

nob77@comcast.net 09-23-2023 05:33 AM

No bad dogs, only bad owners
 
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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

Couldn’t agree more! I had one woman allow her dog to walk almost to my front pathway on the retractable leash!! No exaggerating. I walked outside, asked her to kindly refrain from allowing her dog to do this. Her response was “ but it’s hot out and there isn’t a lot of shade like there is here and I do pick it up”!😳 You can’t fix stupid or ignorance. Good luck.

GizmoWhiskers 09-23-2023 06:11 AM

No signs allowed in your yard.... but.... here's an idea, put out a Massey sign as in just sprayed for pesticides. The Villages has NO PROBLEM with tacky little lawn service signs which some (not all) have a no pet on grass due to harmful chemicals logo on them. Not only will people avoid your lawn... it may actually look like one cares about the well being of dogs.

Trained my dogs to use the commode and they flush it too. In my dreams... I do walk them beyond houses and use bags... the one is 12 and the other 11. They like to pee multiple times. They are both geriatric and constantly need to pee which is an identifiable geriatric condition for the populus living in TV.

I have them pee first in my yard before a walk. If the one can't make it to the common area to pee, sorry she will go in the street so there's that. Beware of going barefoot on public roads but it's better than infringing on someone's lawn.

Be sure to post when the first living creature no longer has excrement. It will make for an interesting thread to on ToTV.

PVR 09-23-2023 06:24 AM

95% who walk on everyone else's property and think they are right

Justputt 09-23-2023 06:27 AM

No ordinance for this
 
As much as I hate NY, they do have a law that requires pet owners to pick up after their dogs. We did it when our Corgi was alive, and it just isn't a big deal to do. Maybe TV needs to pass requirements, let people video offenders and turn them in for healthy fines.

TEXJK 09-23-2023 06:31 AM

When you see someone letting their dog do his business in your yard instead of peering out the crack in blinds and watching it
Grow a pair and go tell them to get off your lawn and pick up the pretty simple

Two Bills 09-23-2023 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainpd (Post 2259628)
Next time you go out to eat, Make sure you pee or poop before you go. If you are so smart, you shouldn't have to ever pee/poop except at your house.

I always do go before going out.
I find dog owners leave such a mess in public bathrooms! :icon_wink:

RCMill531@comcast.net 09-23-2023 06:38 AM

I agree. I have nothing against dogs (used to own them) and they always pooped in our yard because of our fence. Since we moved here, I have often wondered why people don’t allow them to poop in their own yards. Not all of us have dogs and don’t like seeing them poop in our yards, even if it is picked up because it leaves residue. I don’t like walking in my yard near the street because of this. Just my thoughts since I don’t have dogs.

CSB1228 09-23-2023 06:40 AM

Community Watch or Community Standards WILL NOT remove anything that has not had a complaint called in by someone in the neighborhood.

jimkerr 09-23-2023 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

Not all dogs will poop in their own yard. Mine for example will not. She has to go to a dog park or be walked.

Catalina36 09-23-2023 06:56 AM

Really, I guess Dog Owners just don't get it????
 
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Originally Posted by Captainpd (Post 2259628)
Next time you go out to eat, Make sure you pee or poop before you go. If you are so smart, you shouldn't have to ever pee/poop except at your house.

I don't want your dog pooping on my property or any of my neighbors property especially if you live 2 or more blocks away. Have your dog poop on your property or on your next door neighbors property. See how long that will last, LOL

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2259655)
Not all dogs will poop in their own yard. Mine for example will not. She has to go to a dog park or be walked.

Sorry. Not buying it. If the dog needs to go, she will go. Try not taking her for a couple of days and see how many "accidents " she has.

Jcicales 09-23-2023 07:29 AM

Streets-NOT neighbors yard. Did you read the post?

LuvNH 09-23-2023 07:29 AM

I read through this whole thread and, have unfortunately come to the conclusion that MOST Villagers should not be dog owners, they don't have a clue. NO IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE DOG, BUT IT IS THE IGNORANCE OR LAZINESS OF THE OWNER.

Get rid of retractable dog leashes and use a short leash so that you can control where your dog relieves itself.
Do not take your dog to another area to relieve itself, it's your dog keep it in your neighborhood.
Carry dog poop bags and use them and take it home with you instead of throwing the bag in the curb or in the storm drains. Yes, you do that .... there is a storm drain outside my home and I have watched you throw your waste in the drain.

For those of you who KNOW how to own a dog a BIG THANK YOU.

JerseyGurl 09-23-2023 07:33 AM

A reasonable request is to pickup after your dog.

Cindysum90 09-23-2023 07:40 AM

Good luck. Dog owners don’t care about anyone else.

Byte1 09-23-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JSRusso (Post 2259597)
It’s not as reasonable a request as it might sound. Most dogs don’t go poo or pee on their owners demand. Walking them is for exercise primarily, most let their dogs out back of their own homes to pee and poop. But as life would have it, dogs poop and pee when the urge arises, similar to horses. What’s critical is that the owner picks up after the dog. Walking the dogs down the streets a responsible dog owner would typically allow the dog to walk on the furthest most points of the lawns away from the houses closest to the street so the dogs don’t get in the way of moving vehicles. Dogs naturally enjoy the scents they pickup along the walks and mark spots and go when the urges arise. If the poop is being picked up, and is not directly on your front walk, you are dealing with responsible dog owners. Also, note most responsible dog owners will not let a dog on someone’s lawn if a sign is present indicating keep dogs off my lawn or similar verbiage. It does point out that the owner of that particular home is not tolerant and not worth the confrontation. If you have dog walkers that ignore such signs then I would agree with the above that you are dealing with a much smaller percentage of dog owners and have some seriously bad luck in neighbors. I own multiple dogs and I too would not appreciate anyone allowing their dogs to poop on my yard without cleaning up after themselves. A dog peeing on my lawn doesn’t bother me as I don’t picnic out front and wouldn’t ever have to directly come in contact with it. My 2 cents… and worth about as much :)

Hmm, seems like SOME folks do not know as much about dogs as they THINK. Dogs can be trained to go where the owner trains them to go. Do they go in your home? If not, it means they have been taught not to. If you do not know how to teach your pet how to behave, perhaps it's best to either learn from someone or give your pet to someone that is more responsible.
What you allow in your yard is your business. Just because another dog owner is more tolerant, does not mean that someone else MUST be of same mind when it comes to health and sanitation. Some of us mow our own lawns and do not wish to step on a neighbor's dog's residue and then track into our home.
Some dog owners will never understand, just like some folks that do not like or tolerate cats will never understand those that do. Anyone that assumes that it is ok for them to allow their dogs to relieve themselves on someone else's property, are irresponsible and selfish.
I wonder what a dog owner would think if I was to use my smart phone remote control of my sprinkler system to suddenly come on when they are in my yard. Would that be unreasonable? After all, it IS my property.
I love animals, but my property is my castle and I do not tolerate inconsiderate neighbors that believe they can drive on my lawn or walk their dogs on it. I use chemicals on my lawn and landscaping and I do not wish to harm animals. It is not my responsibility to "protect" or notify my dog owner neighbors when I treat my lawn. Believe me, I have had a neighbor request that I tell them when I treat my lawn so that they would not allow their dog to use my yard. I hope that my lack of response along with my incredulous look was sufficient.
Like I said before, I love animals but I do not believe that it is asking too much for other folks to respect a neighbor's property. If signs were allowed here, I would post a warning.

Rzepecki 09-23-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2259348)
Good luck with that one. Dog owner just don't get it. They think its just their little fur baby. What's not to like?- not!

We DO get it! If you can get my dog to poop on demand, you need to tell me how you do it. You can’t poop on demand, why would you expect a dog to.

However, I do see dog owners who are disrespectful of other’s property. Dogs don’t need to walk on extension leashes and they don’t need to be in the middle of your yard. The edge 2-3 feet is enough and makes it easy to pick up after them.

On the other hand, get over yourself. If you find a way to keep the rats, birds, rabbits, worms, roaches, etc. from pooping in your yard, please let the rest of us know.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXJK (Post 2259644)
When you see someone letting their dog do his business in your yard instead of peering out the crack in blinds and watching it
Grow a pair and go tell them to get off your lawn and pick up the ������ pretty simple

Sounds good, but impractical. Aside from the potential of a violent confrontation, it could become a full time occupation. During high season a corner lot can see upward of 60 "visits" per day and dog walkers can be very argumentative. (Learned from personal experience)
Instead of the violated homeowner "growing a pair", dog walkers could grow a brain so they can understand that trespassing is wrong, or grow a heart so they would have some respect and compassion for their neighbors and quit violating their property.

Byte1 09-23-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rzepecki (Post 2259693)
We DO get it! If you can get my dog to poop on demand, you need to tell me how you do it. You can’t poop on demand, why would you expect a dog to.

However, I do see dog owners who are disrespectful of other’s property. Dogs don’t need to walk on extension leashes and they don’t need to be in the middle of your yard. The edge 2-3 feet is enough and makes it easy to pick up after them.

On the other hand, get over yourself. If you find a way to keep the rats, birds, rabbits, worms, roaches, etc. from pooping in your yard, please let the rest of us know.

See my post above.
As for wildlife using our lawns, that's not even related to the subject. Pets are OWNED and supposedly under control of their owners. If you can't control your pets, it is best for you to learn or give it to someone else that knows how.

Gizemo33 09-23-2023 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

WOW, obviously you have an issue with dogs. In my opinion you’re blowing it completely out of proportion but that’s just my opinion. Be happy don’t worry and you’ll live longer.

maistocars 09-23-2023 08:09 AM

Dogs need exercise, I assume like you, and they need to go for a walk beyond their house. As long as the owner picks up after them, then no harm no foul. Maybe you can buy in the Enclave where the properties are hugs and most likely not many dogs. Otherwise, you won't get your wish.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rzepecki (Post 2259693)
We DO get it! If you can get my dog to poop on demand, you need to tell me how you do it. You can’t poop on demand, why would you expect a dog to.

However, I do see dog owners who are disrespectful of other’s property. Dogs don’t need to walk on extension leashes and they don’t need to be in the middle of your yard. The edge 2-3 feet is enough and makes it easy to pick up after them.

On the other hand, get over yourself. If you find a way to keep the rats, birds, rabbits, worms, roaches, etc. from pooping in your yard, please let the rest of us know.

Sorry! You obviously don't get it. And, teaching your dog where and when it is OK to relieve themselves is YOUR job as a responsible dog owner, not mine.

"The edge 2-3 feet" is still out of bounds! You don't get it. Your trespassing. Period. Use the sidewalk or the street! NOT someone else's yard. Not one square inch is yours! "KEEP OFF THE GRASS."

Lastly, all the "what about the" blah blah blah deflection is bs. You get over Yourself and be a good and responsible pet owner and stay off the neighbors lawn. Don't worry about the wildlife. They are fine.

OhioBuckeye 09-23-2023 08:34 AM

Yep, you put it in a nutshell.

lpkruege1 09-23-2023 08:37 AM

It's only grass
 
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Originally Posted by krash (Post 2259451)
For @#$%& sake, its ONLY grass!!!

It's only grass until you have to have it repaired. It's only grass to some, to me it's an extension of my landscaping, my home, my personal property. It's only grass until you step in the dog crap, and you walk into your house, and then smell it, and then find it on the bottom of your shoe. If you're lucky, it's not on one of your carpet runners. It's only grass, but it's my grass. Would you let your dog crap in someone's garage? If it ends up there because it was tracked into my house under my shoes, is there any difference? If I have to pick it up off my grass, and then put it into garbage can, and then have to smell it every time it put garbage in it, is it still just grass? Yes, but it's my grass, They have their grass, use it.

kendi 09-23-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

This issue is between you and the dog owner. The entire TOTV community does not need to hear about it. Go directly to the owner.

kendi 09-23-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2259614)
I’ve lived in many different communities over the years,
but until I lived here, I had not experienced so many entitled, inconsiderate dog owners
who had little or no respect for others property!
I’ve had dogs and they are not the problem!

In our area the dog owners are very considerate.

airstreamingypsy 09-23-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcicales (Post 2259682)
Streets-NOT neighbors yard. Did you read the post?

Can't walk dogs in the streets around here most months, it will burn their pads off.

airstreamingypsy 09-23-2023 09:10 AM

You found a poop? It could be a dog, or a coyote or a bear or an alligator or plenty of other critters...... so quityerbitchin.

MJY10101 09-23-2023 09:33 AM

Everyone can tell that either you have never owned a dog or just don’t remember that they don’t poop on command! As long as the dog owner is a responsible person and ALWAYS picks up the poop, no harm is being done to your yard at all!

Maker 09-23-2023 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2259354)
While we are up north, our corner lot, we have neighbors who park their car, that leaks oil, in our driveway.
When we return we pay hundreds of dollars to remove the oil

1. Call the police and report a car has been left on your property. Ask to investigate if it might be stolen, and what you should do.
2. When they say it's not stolen, and advise you that your only recourse is to tow it at your expense, call a tow truck and have it removed. Cheaper than cleaning up the mess.
3. Let police know you did that, and the tow truck company used.
4. Neighbor will call police to report car missing. They will tell them it was towed away.

Everything is documented and 100% legal.

ehonour 09-23-2023 09:44 AM

Nope. Not a reasonable request at all, for reasons having to do with the basic nature of dogs. Ain't gonna happen.

The vast majority of the people I meet while walking my dog are friendly and love to see him. They call him to them, they pet him, we have wonderful conversations, and I get to meet my neighbors.

Instead of trying to control everyone else's behavior to meet your personal unwritten standards, I suggest you focus on what YOU can do. Under Florida law, the crime of trespassing requires a posting of private property.

As one of the minority who doesn't want pets on your property, YOU can buy a small sign at any pet department and put it on your lawn. Then I'll cheerfully keep my dog off your property.

PurePeach 09-23-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2259458)
True but dogs can harm grass. Would you like it if your grass was harmed by inconsiderate dog owners?

We have a neighbor whose dog regularly poops and pees in our front yard. She always picks up the poop. My dog will then pee where hers did. I am proud to say that we have one of the most beautiful front lawns in our PV area. With the amount of watering that we do, coupled with rain, and the fact that we live on sand, the yards aren’t in danger of dying from dog urine. The yellow spots that are prevalent on lawns are from pests; e.g.: grub worms.

Nellmack 09-23-2023 09:55 AM

What are you suggesting?
 
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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2259360)
If an animal that walks and whatever else on a lawn recently treated with pesticides, herbicides, and/or fertilizers that are not necessarily animal friendly gets sick, or worse, due to absorption of chemicals through paws and skin it is on the owner of the animal not the home owner.

Don't beat around the bush, just say what you mean out loud so all of your neighbors know your intentions. It sounds like you're suggesting that the Anti-Dog-Walker-Alliance should put chemicals on their lawn (specifically where dogs are allowed to be walked) to intentionally injur "or worse".

Wow, I hope karma isn't watching you closely, if so you're in big trouble.

DonnaNi4os 09-23-2023 09:56 AM

How many times can this topic be discussed? Dogs walk, dogs poop. Responsible owners keep their dogs off of other’s property. Mine poops in the street and yes, I’m serious. I pick it up and bring it home. Mine can poop in my yard and then poop again on a walk ten minutes later. You know what they say, poop happens

golfnut 09-23-2023 09:59 AM

My dog does his business in my yard and then we go for a walk.

scooterstang 09-23-2023 09:59 AM

Hmmm let me see....dogs have been around as long as I can remember. But one thing I remember was growing up in MN suburbs I don't remember anyone ever walking a dog! They either had fenced in yards or they would go out with the dog in their yard to let it do it's thing(even in sub zero temps). I believe that now days walking a dog has to do more with the owner(wanting to show off or them wanting to be seen and possibly meeting someone they are not familiar with)

DonnaNi4os 09-23-2023 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2259599)
If your dog gets sick or dies from poisonous chemicals on a lawn then, I guess, that is just too bad for your dog and you.

Well bless your heart 🙄


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