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jimjamuser 09-23-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2259338)
I realize dogs need to be walked for excercise and maybe just to get them out of the house
so they can do their pooping. A reasonable request to dog owners!! Take your dog outside and walk your dog around your yard, front yard, back yard, side yard where ever you like on your property until the dog poops. After the dog is done pooping make sure you pick up the poop and then take your dog for a walk on YOUR BLOCK. Recently I noticed a owner who lives in the Village of Ashland on Haretison Ave walk his medium to large dog several houses down his block and make a turn onto Crawford Court walk several houses down and now his dog is pooping on my neighbors lawn. I mean really don't you feel bad your walking your dog and your dog is pooping on other peoples property. Why not allow your dog to poop on your next door neighbors lawn or the people that live accross the street from you. Please don't walk your dog 2 blocks away from your house and allow your dog to poop on someone elses lawn. We the Homeowners, Your Neighbors who live in The Villages pay to maintain our lawns. Watering, Cutting, fertilzing, etc. etc. just like you do. We really don't want your dog pooping on our lawns. THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO ALL DOG OWNERS.
Like I said earlier WAlK YOUR DOG ON YOUR PROPERTY TO DO IT'S POOPING!!!!
NOT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAWN!!! Thank You in Advance.

I suppose that everyone has pet peeves (this is appropriate - the PET - DOG - in pet peeves). But, this one (that resurfaces every month) always catches me by surprise. A yard is one of the last things that I would be SUPER particular about. I would WORRY that my car was NOT shined to a mirror-like perfection before I would expect perfection from my yard. I would worry that my computer desk was NOT NEAT enough (it isn't) before I'd worry about excrement on my yard. I would worry about a rust spot on my bicycle before excrement on my yard. A rust spot on a bicycle will get worse once it starts, but dog excrement will stop smelling (on its own) after about 1 day, and rain or people's sprinkler systems will QUICKLY melt it into the soil.
........I like to see the various dogs walk by my home - it reminds me of my youth when all the neighborhood kids and dogs ran around free and easy. Drivers never sped through the neighborhood streets (like the professional grass cutters here today do) and the dogs somehow knew to stay away from moving cars. It seemed more natural then. My parents worried about the Korean War then and whether flying saucers were real. Dog excrement was NEVER mentioned except to let the dog out when it scratched at the door (it was communicating and where the dog went to do his business, was HIS business. Ah yes the good old days......to be continued.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2259727)
This issue is between you and the dog owner. The entire TOTV community does not need to hear about it. Go directly to the owner.

You read to page 5. And, you posted your comment. Maybe the entire TOTV community doesn't NEED to hear it, but a sizeable portion do. And on a regular basis to remind those with "short memories".

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2259731)
In our area the dog owners are very considerate.

Lucky you. Not so much in our area, or many others.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2259732)
Can't walk dogs in the streets around here most months, it will burn their pads off.

Not my problem. Sounds like dog owners concern. That is why there are dog parks.

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2259807)
Ok, to summarize the replies from many of the above posts:
Dog owners purposely allow their dogs to relieve themselves on their neighbors lawns because they have no respect for their neighbors.
Most dog owners pick up after their dogs, therefore it's OK that they tresspass upon their neighbor's property for purposes of having their pets relieve themselves, without asking permission of the owners of such property.
Those that do not want dogs relieving themselves upon their property, hate dogs.
Owners of dogs cannot learn to control their dogs, therefore make excuses that their dogs are dumb and can't control their bowels.
Dog owners believe it is their right to use their neighbor's property without consent, for any purpose they wish.
The property owners that do not wish dogs upon their lawns, are evil dog haters and have no right to prohibit dogs from using their lawns as their lavatory.
Question:
If a dog relieves itself in a business/store and the owner of the animal picks up after it, does that make it OK?
If a business prohibits pets from it's property, is that OK but it's not OK for a neighbor to do the same?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWarriors (Post 2259819)
Having a service dog gives you NO right for it to be on anyone else’s property besides your own. And based on your reply and the ability to “make the rounds” on your golf cart every morning, I’m not buying the service dog line.

Classy...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brianherlihy (Post 2259826)
dogs at the mail box. cant youur dog pop and **** at home

I thought you moved to Stonecrest...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BumpaOompa (Post 2259840)
Says the person who doesn’t take care of their yard.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You know this how?

JSR22 09-23-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259898)
I thought you moved out...

He moved to Stonecrest. Still actig like an _____

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy o (Post 2259845)
Yes there are many folks that complain about dogs using their lawns. Agreement will never happen. Why get upset about it? At least the dog walkers around here clean up after their dogs. What do you do about the plethora of wild life that uses your lawn? Nobody cleans up after them. There are raccoons, bobcats, coyotes, and fowl pooping on lawns everyday. Then there are the numerous reptiles defecating and shedding skin. Oh yes the overhead droppings too. Complaining about dog walkers who pick after their dogs is actually something that defines crabby old people.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2259857)
The wildlife that may/MAY use our yards, do not have disrespectful owners that are so selfish that they could not care less about the opinion or feelings of their neighbor that might put thousands into their landscaping. Oh, but those same folks that do not care about their neighbor will be deeply offended by a small white cross in a neighbor's yard, or a political flag flying over their property. Respect other's property and if you must walk your dog until it relieves itself, try using the dog parks that the developer conveniently added for your enjoyment. And don't be upset if my sprinklers come on at the same time you and your pet are using my yard as a dog park. After all, that is really my right. :D

I don't give a rat's @ss about any of those things...

And I'm sure you're just sitting there, peeking out of your window, waiting to turn on the sprinklers...

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JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2259860)
If this issue is your biggest problem, I envy you!

Yup. They should count their blessings...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2259865)
Massey does it right?

Nah, I use Dean's...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillyangel (Post 2259875)
But it really doesn't matter if they pick it up, the smell left attracts many other dogs, to a dog it is a contest for marking territory. I have witnessed several people allowing the dog to walk them as the dog goes up driveways to the plants and pees on them. Continuous pee damages and will even kills plants. I have seen the results.

And I have never seen this...

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MJY10101 (Post 2259750)
Everyone can tell that either you have never owned a dog or just don’t remember that they don’t poop on command! As long as the dog owner is a responsible person and ALWAYS picks up the poop, no harm is being done to your yard at all!

Who are you responding to?
On the chance it is me, FYI I have had 8 wonderful dogs in my life. Mostly large. Never, as in never, let my dogs on to neighbors property, city or community lawns, flowerbeds, to sniff, snoop, pee or poop.
You are correct that dogs can't always poop on command, but they can learn when to hold it (as in house trained. Ever hear of that?
Also, if your dog is on a leash, as it should be, it can't go anywhere unless you let it. Dogs are not the problem. The owners, as always, are the problem.

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2259879)
I am neither crabby or old, I just dislike a dog using my yard as their toilet bowl, and I especially dislike disrespectful people allowing their animal to foul my yard.

However, on reflection I could install an electric fence that would keep your animal off my yard.

Um, I doubt that would pass the ARC...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2259885)
That would not work. The dog would have to be wearing a collar paired with the fence. Electric fences are used to keep your dog in your yard. The fence does not prevent animals from entering the yard.

That's an "Invisible Fence"...

The person posting that couldn't be that confused as to conflate the two, could they?

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2259886)
I suppose that everyone has pet peeves (this is appropriate - the PET - DOG - in pet peeves). But, this one (that resurfaces every month) always catches me by surprise. A yard is one of the last things that I would be SUPER particular about. I would WORRY that my car was NOT shined to a mirror-like perfection before I would expect perfection from my yard. I would worry that my computer desk was NOT NEAT enough (it isn't) before I'd worry about excrement on my yard. I would worry about a rust spot on my bicycle before excrement on my yard. A rust spot on a bicycle will get worse once it starts, but dog excrement will stop smelling (on its own) after about 1 day, and rain or people's sprinkler systems will QUICKLY melt it into the soil.
........I like to see the various dogs walk by my home - it reminds me of my youth when all the neighborhood kids and dogs ran around free and easy. Drivers never sped through the neighborhood streets (like the professional grass cutters here today do) and the dogs somehow knew to stay away from moving cars. It seemed more natural then. My parents worried about the Korean War then and whether flying saucers were real. Dog excrement was NEVER mentioned except to let the dog out when it scratched at the door (it was communicating and where the dog went to do his business, was HIS business. Ah yes the good old days......to be continued.

A few other things that confuse me about yard perfection and associated territoriality. A yard is JUST a big area comprised of insects, goose do-do, other bird droppings, sand, worms, black crawling beetles, fire ants, fertilizer, manure, commercial black soil from who-knows-where, green grass (normally not the SOFT varieties that are up north, but hard crabgrasses) and my all-time favorite........(horn blows) SPIDERS AND SNAKES.
......I don't believe that I have EVER seen a bunch of neighbors get together and sit on towels and sheets and play music and talk and be happy on that biomass that they call their yard. Now some sit in folding chairs on the CEMENT driveway (not the yard) and DO, whatever they DO. I HAVE seen that. And sitting in gazeboes watching the sunset. I can understand that! But, I fail to understand being enamored about a yard that one never uses for any activity.
And the FINAL CLINCHER is that only about 10% of the residents care enough about their own yards to cut their OWN grass.(not counting those who are physically unable to cut their grass) Even for that - they NOW have Rumba's for yard-cutting. So, they hire grass-cutting Neanderthals who put divots into the house's siding and run over plants, park in the middle of busy streets, and break ALL LAND SPEED RECORDS as they race from one yard that they don't care about to another yard that they could care LESS about.
.......So, I find it really EXCEEDINGLY strange that these same individuals have hissy fits and break out in hives whenever a dog on a leash even SNIFFS at a blade of grass in their beloved yards. They say that it takes ALL kinds to make a world?

Fredster 09-23-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259603)
Let's see...

Another poop thread... Check

Same lame arguments... Check

No one's mind is changed... Check...

Carry on...

For someone who dislikes dog poop threads,
you sure add a lot of inane comments to them!

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PurePeach (Post 2259756)
We have a neighbor whose dog regularly poops and pees in our front yard. She always picks up the poop. My dog will then pee where hers did. I am proud to say that we have one of the most beautiful front lawns in our PV area. With the amount of watering that we do, coupled with rain, and the fact that we live on sand, the yards aren’t in danger of dying from dog urine. The yellow spots that are prevalent on lawns are from pests; e.g.: grub worms.

Lucky you, but like so many others who act like they don't get it, it is that you are trespassing unless invited. Sign or no sign keep of the neighbors grass.

JMintzer 09-23-2023 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2259900)
He moved to Stonecrest. Still actig like an _____

And he still can't write a coherent post, either...

JMintzer 09-23-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2259910)
A few other things that confuse me about yard perfection and associated territoriality. A yard is JUST a big area comprised of insects, goose do-do, other bird droppings, sand, worms, black crawling beetles, fire ants, fertilizer, manure, commercial black soil from who-knows-where, green grass (normally not the SOFT varieties that are up north, but hard crabgrasses) and my all-time favorite........(horn blows) SPIDERS AND SNAKES.
......I don't believe that I have EVER seen a bunch of neighbors get together and sit on towels and sheets and play music and talk and be happy on that biomass that they call their yard. Now some sit in folding chairs on the CEMENT driveway (not the yard) and DO, whatever they DO. I HAVE seen that. And sitting in gazeboes watching the sunset. I can understand that! But, I fail to understand being enamored about a yard that one never uses for any activity.
And the FINAL CLINCHER is that only about 10% of the residents care enough about their own yards to cut their OWN grass.(not counting those who are physically unable to cut their grass) Even for that - they NOW have Rumba's for yard-cutting. So, they hire grass-cutting Neanderthals who put divots into the house's siding and run over plants, park in the middle of busy streets, and break ALL LAND SPEED RECORDS as they race from one yard that they don't care about to another yard that they could care LESS about.
.......So, I find it really EXCEEDINGLY strange that these same individuals have hissy fits and break out in hives whenever a dog on a leash even SNIFFS at a blade of grass in their beloved yards. They say that it takes ALL kinds to make a world?

Well... You did warn us that more was coming... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

JMintzer 09-23-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2259911)
For someone who dislikes dog poop threads,
you sure add a lot of inane comments to them!

I find them to be quite amusing...

The angst of some of the posters is a study in psychology...

Plus, I've got nothing better to do on a rainy Saturday (we're waiting for the tropical storm to hit, here in the DC area...)

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nellmack (Post 2259759)
Don't beat around the bush, just say what you mean out loud so all of your neighbors know your intentions. It sounds like you're suggesting that the Anti-Dog-Walker-Alliance should put chemicals on their lawn (specifically where dogs are allowed to be walked) to intentionally injur "or worse".

Wow, I hope karma isn't watching you closely, if so you're in big trouble.

There is no place on your neighbors yard "specifically where dogs are allowed to be walked" except in your imagination. Keep off the grass unless specifically invited.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scooterstang (Post 2259765)
Hmmm let me see....dogs have been around as long as I can remember. But one thing I remember was growing up in MN suburbs I don't remember anyone ever walking a dog! They either had fenced in yards or they would go out with the dog in their yard to let it do it's thing(even in sub zero temps). I believe that now days walking a dog has to do more with the owner(wanting to show off or them wanting to be seen and possibly meeting someone they are not familiar with)

Very astute observation. A+

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259773)
Just because you have your dog pee/poop in your own yard before setting out for a walk (we always do), doesn't mean they won't do it again while out on said walk...

Sh*t happens...

But never on a neighbors lawn. If it does, then you are a failure as a dog owner.

JMintzer 09-23-2023 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2259911)
For someone who dislikes dog poop threads,
you sure add a lot of inane comments to them!

Looks like we got a "post counter" here, Boss!

JMintzer 09-23-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2259919)
But never on a neighbors lawn. If it does, then you are a failure as a dog owner.

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fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259780)
Most homes in TV aren't fenced... And leaving a dog outside in a veranda home or a CY Villa is dangerous for the dog...

Dogs need daily exercise. How do you suggest they get said exercise without walking them?

When you were "growing up in MN", odds are you played with your dog outside.

I'd wager that is just a tad more difficult in a 55+ community...

1. Not my problem.
2. Not my problem. Maybe use one of the dog parks?
3. Same in So. Cal.
4. Not my problem.

fdpaq0580 09-23-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259784)
Nonsense... Unless you use some sort of cork, I don't believe you...

I think you are smarter than you let on. You don't need a cork, just use the leash to keep you dog off the neighbors lawn. It's so easy even a cave ..... Well, you know.

Dotneko 09-23-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2259879)
I am neither crabby or old, I just dislike a dog using my yard as their toilet bowl, and I especially dislike disrespectful people allowing their animal to foul my yard.

However, on reflection I could install an electric fence that would keep your animal off my yard.

That wouldnt work. You could get some sort of motion activated sprinkler, though.

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2259505)
Dogs poop and pee in my front yard every day and not just once a day. As long as they pick it up I don't care. I don't know what kind of grass you have that dog poop and pee harms, our grass has no brown spots and it's beautiful and green. Maybe you need to feed and water it more to get it stronger. What really PO's me is smokers throwing their filtered cigarette butts in my lawn as the mowers don't pick it up and it ends up in pieces on my freshly mowed lawn. In closing, be glad you don't have Canada Geese hanging around your yard as they make a huge mess and they don't pick it up.

Filtered cigarette butts that land in my yard also get me WAY MORE angered than dog do-do, which is more natural. It is kind of an insult that Golf Cart drivers throw those butts out on yards - why don't they have a can with sand in it for their butts - a good citizen/resident would do that much for their neighbors. Also, birds have been known to go after the cigarette filters and end up choking on them. With all the chemicals placed on yards, we seem to have very few songbirds here in The Villages, at least compared to up north. We DO have plenty of crows here that must eat the songbirds' eggs. Maybe some brilliant scientist may find a way to cross a crow and a bluebird to come up with a nice song. (just dreaming)

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2259556)
Brings back memories of the lady next door who kept our baseball when it happened to land in her yard. Don't know why, just does.

From her point of view, a baseball landing in her yard could just as easily have broken her window. We tried to use a tennis ball if we were batting around in the street when I was a kid.

Kenswing 09-23-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2259929)
Filtered cigarette butts that land in my yard also get me WAY MORE angered than dog do-do, which is more natural. It is kind of an insult that Golf Cart drivers throw those butts out on yards - why don't they have a can with sand in it for their butts - a good citizen/resident would do that much for their neighbors. Also, birds have been known to go after the cigarette filters and end up choking on them. With all the chemicals placed on yards, we seem to have very few songbirds here in The Villages, at least compared to up north. We DO have plenty of crows here that must eat the songbirds' eggs. Maybe some brilliant scientist may find a way to cross a crow and a bluebird to come up with a nice song. (just dreaming)

Yeah sure, blame it on those nasty golf cart drivers. Who you claim are running around at 30mph. I doubt they could hit your yard with a cigarette buttif they tried. It’s most likely the same inconsiderate dog owners that let their dog crap on your yard. If they don’t care enough to pick up after their dog they probably won’t pick up after themselves either.

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunny1 (Post 2259591)
How about a dog owner who carries her dog from a block of $500,000 plus homes to a patio villa neighborhood each day and lets her dog pee and poop on our lawns. Sometimes picks up if she sees neighbors watching!

That proves the 11th commandment, "Watch out rich people got no souls"!

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2259614)
I’ve lived in many different communities over the years,
but until I lived here, I had not experienced so many entitled, inconsiderate dog owners
who had little or no respect for others property!
I’ve had dogs and they are not the problem!

The dog owners may NOT be MORE inconsiderate, there just might be WAY more of them here.

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2259683)
I read through this whole thread and, have unfortunately come to the conclusion that MOST Villagers should not be dog owners, they don't have a clue. NO IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE DOG, BUT IT IS THE IGNORANCE OR LAZINESS OF THE OWNER.

Get rid of retractable dog leashes and use a short leash so that you can control where your dog relieves itself.
Do not take your dog to another area to relieve itself, it's your dog keep it in your neighborhood.
Carry dog poop bags and use them and take it home with you instead of throwing the bag in the curb or in the storm drains. Yes, you do that .... there is a storm drain outside my home and I have watched you throw your waste in the drain.

For those of you who KNOW how to own a dog a BIG THANK YOU.

I watched a lady's dog on a long retractable leash get ahead of her and BITE a man walking in the opposite direction. It was an unprovoked attack.

Fredster 09-23-2023 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2259938)
The dog owners may NOT be MORE inconsiderate, there just might be WAY more of them here.

More dog owners, more inconsiderate dog owners, I’ll buy that!

jimjamuser 09-23-2023 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rzepecki (Post 2259693)
We DO get it! If you can get my dog to poop on demand, you need to tell me how you do it. You can’t poop on demand, why would you expect a dog to.

However, I do see dog owners who are disrespectful of other’s property. Dogs don’t need to walk on extension leashes and they don’t need to be in the middle of your yard. The edge 2-3 feet is enough and makes it easy to pick up after them.

On the other hand, get over yourself. If you find a way to keep the rats, birds, rabbits, worms, roaches, etc. from pooping in your yard, please let the rest of us know.

I often poop twice a day. Admittedly, "I am full of it". I think that I could poop on command most of the time, but that's just me. I also have been taught to "sit" and to "stay", but I have been having problems with that "fetch" stuff - that is a tough one!

Fredster 09-23-2023 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2259920)
Looks like we got a "post counter" here, Boss!

You said it “I’ve got nothing better to do”,
so do you just blah, blah, blah, to run up post count?


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