Statistics aside......have you seen the health care professionals, nurses mostly, in tears or near tears in sheer exhaustion begging people to PLEASE comply with the CDC guidelines. That is a sad state of affairs when Americans simply do not care what is happening to our health care workers. My heart breaks for these people who can not get a handle of the death and dying they see and have to deal with every day. Health care professionals are retiring early or just quitting because they can not stand the stress anymore. This is our America people. Let's do our part to not overwhelm our hospitals. I'm not just talking about our bubble here in The Villages; I'm referring to people everywhere in America.

"ALL" are not, far from it, just take the time to look up the experience, education, and credentials of some of the medical and bio people who ARE trying to get people to realize the the weave of cotton or synthetic fibers of fabrics are NOT going to protect them or the public from the MICROBES penetrating no matter how many coffee filters you stuff behind it thinking nothing can get to you ! What you don't see, and have to do your own research, are the many recognized experts that know this is a campaign to keep the panic down.

I wear safety glasses when I have to be indoors around many people. There are YouTube videos showing droplets coming from breathing, yelling, and sneezing. You can SEE it with your own EYES. So, STOP with the denying.

I believer seat belts are placed in an automobile as a reminder to use, they are there, why not use them. Most of the time, I do. Some times I do forget. Of course I know that could be the very time I get hit. I might be killed ! I might not, maybe just get a head bump ? But, it would be because I just forgot.... and left my garage.

I am not a "disbeliever" but my goodness, have you ever heard anything like some of the things presented on here as "fact"... sky is falling is right. This is a serious illness, but the depth of the fear it is instilling in our community is really beyond what you would expect from a relatively affluent, educated, and mature community of intelligent experienced people. Even health professionals are not as emotional and irrational as so many in our own community.

What you are saying is born out by the stats that I said about the US 5% population and 19% CV deaths in the world. When stats and real-world experience line up, together they produce TRUTH! In truth, the US is overall, a cesspool of CV and a cesspool of purposeful misinformation.

No one knows more about working to sheer exhaustion then a combat medic. He also knows he may not make it through the day. My wife was an ER nurse for 30 years. Sure she came home exhausted and stressed. She never blamed the diseases or circumstances she worked under for it. She knew she was going home after her shifts. You sound like all ER nurses do is deal with a virus. The hospitals are not overwhelmed. BTW: the nurses are paid very well for what they do. Stop spreading panic and lies.

You all can breath easier now. An interview is currently going on with the NEW reign and a mask mandate for all and a mandate for EVERYONE to have a vaccination is in the imminent future. No worries now. You all can become just like the USSR commie informers that call the law whenever you see a mask violation or hear of someone that did not get their shots. You all can breath easier now. Wipe your tears and rejoice because you are saved.

And maybe I know things that others may NOT know! Let me say that there needed to be more panic leading to action back in Feb when Bob Woodward was doing in-person research.

Uh, common sense. Nothing is 100% effective.

Thank you. The point I was making is that nothing is 100% effective and for someone to try and convince people that a mask is just that is dangerous and unsafe. I wear a mask whenever I enter a store however I only go to shopping for groceries or other necessary items. I'm doing as much as possible to limit my possible exposure to the virus.

I don't really remember, I use cloth masks and the disposable masks sold in the drug stores.

In those countries they also had draconian lock downs that had far more effect for a low infection rate than the use of a mask.

I've been in a lot of hospitals over the years as a patient and visitor. I saw very few medical staff wearing masks even in the ICU. Only since the Covid virus have I seen widespread use of masks by medical personnel. Also did you ever check your oxygen level while you were wearing a mask? I seriously doubt it. Medical personnel are for the most part younger people in reasonably good health vs older people with existing health problems or just older bodies that aren't functioning at optimal levels. Does it not make sense that an older person may have a lower oxygen level while wearing a mask?

I read the article. I stand by my original comment.

No, not a cashier.

Okay

Always wear eye glasses, no goggles.

Obvious the horse not dead yet, somebody keeps reviving the poor horse. The horse will make come back again and again... bong, bong, bong.

I speak of what I see on TV with my own eyes. I speak of interviews I have seen with my own eyes. I am not spreading panic and lies. I am spreading current news.

You don't think that the media doesn't cherry pick the interviewees to get the responses they desire to support the narrative they are pushing?

What in my question, shows I am denying anything?
Unless your "safety glasses" completely seal your eyes, they do nothing for you. So, STOP pretending.

Honestly, no.

Yes, for South Korea. No way lockdowns in New Zealand _ just smart people listening to their Scientists!

Perfection need NOT be the enemy of the good!

The above is one in a string of comments that began with a claim that a person was seen at their doctor and was hypoxic and after a couple breaths without a mask was then normal with the oxygen saturation going from high 80's to high 90's Further the nurse reportedly said she is seeing this frequently.

This social media claim has been studied and refuted as a significant problem. No study can prove it didn't happen once. Or that the nurse errantly applied the oximeter giving wrong numbers. But a study of elderly adults wearing non-medical cloth masks was done where multiple oxygen measurements were taken over three hours and there were ZERO persons who had hypoxia from wearing a mask. Peripheral Oxygen Saturation in Older Persons Wearing Nonmedical Face Masks in Community Settings | Geriatrics | JAMA | JAMA Network The study looked for a 2% drop in oxygen saturation. It didn't find one. The poster here claimed a 10% drop relieved by a couple breaths with no supplemental oxygen.

Sorry, but an oxygen saturation of 89 will never go up to 98 with a couple breaths within a few seconds. Measurement error or fabrication.

Wow! Sure glad we got the wearing of a mask squared away.

A five second search shows that New Zealand locked down for 19 weeks.

Really! You believe everything the media tells you?

I've also been doing a bit of research on that; difficult to do as just so many journalist type stories you really have to dig down to search out actual research studies, but yes, "aerosol effect" does NOT linger and wait to infect victims. Conclusions of studies done in such locations as super markets showed that even if an infected person sneezed in an isle, the chances of the next person coming down that isle passing thru a concentration great enough to cause risk was extremely low and those were studies using < > .05 !

So you are calling me and the nurse liars?

True, it is very difficult (if only the internet available as a tool) to really drill down on this....

I suspect you have some background in psychology. You hit EVERY important point, especially the subtle ways the minds of people can be manipulated (as your example of maskers, no maskers, democrat, republican) and slowly but surely they are controlled (herded is a great common term) toward one psychological mind set or another. The really insidious part of the on screen social media addiction is that the anonymity itself REINFORCES the participants and yes, personalities can be changed and since posting is a one way communication (even when someone comes slamming back in reproach) it is still a very different process than face to face conversations which can add infinitely to one's own knowledge, but also gives you the opportunity to consider other people's opinions, expertise, knowledge; face to face input keeps the mind more "flexible", and the personality (ego, subconscious) in check, more sociable, and more open to learning !

.05 is not a comforting rate of infections. If a airplane crashed out of 20 flights, would you fly?

0.05 is a typical significance used in statistical hypothesis testing in the biological sciences. Don't conflate it with engineering reliability requirements.

Is it true what they say about Dixie?:icon_wink:

Stay safe
Just wear your mask and limit indoor exposure in all public places. Only go inside if required and stay for shortest time possible.

Required? Not in the vernacular of the The Villages!

5 minutes on google or good morning America does not make someone on expert. When a person quotes experts with words might or could shows that the so called experts have no clue.

This past week in THE VILLAGES Tuesday 15, Wednesday 13, Thursday 13 highest consistent testing to date. Did we have a spreader event? Don't wish anyone to be hospitalized. Do we have contract tracing in The Villages?