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Aloha1 02-18-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1903680)
Leave them alone, this is only just starting lets see how it ends. There is such a huge demand for businesses here that they will come no matter what the tax situation is and a few thousand extra for a home will not even be noticed by most buyers.

This will end badly.

Aloha1 02-18-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1903707)
So, this is not true?

Of course it's true. Some just refuse to see it.

Aloha1 02-18-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fastboat (Post 1904148)
His retail spaces rent at Washington DC prices, that's what is closing up most of the small businesses during these rough times. He could give them a small break but the greed won't let'm.

Please provide proof to back up this statement. A proposed lease copy? An actual lease? Without proof your comment is moot.

Dilligas 02-18-2021 04:14 PM

Why did you move to The Villages.
 
It blows my mind when I read how people move to TV from other areas (obviously because they like the lifestyle, the physical structure and infastructure, and they could afford it) then they want to change The Villages (many times to something they experienced 'back home'). I get sick when I read comments with the word "greedy developer" in them. All people work to make money or profit. All businesses require profit. Successful business like TV make larger profits, because their investment is larger. Our developing family has perpetuated a vision, and improved upon that vision for the past 40 years. If they were like other developers, they would have built, then closed shop and turned everything over to the residents......who invariably mess it up and destroy a good thing (Sun City Center, Florida, a Del Webb development is a prime example). If you don't like what you thought you were moving to.....find another development that meets your needs.....don't try to change TV. Sumter county taxes remain in the lower level of Florida taxes (even after the 25 % increase). The 25% increase generally only applied to the newbies and part timers...as older resident's homestead kept their increases to under 10% (and less than 3% over 10 years).

Aloha1 02-18-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1904370)
It blows my mind when I read how people move to TV from other areas (obviously because they like the lifestyle, the physical structure and infastructure, and they could afford it) then they want to change The Villages (many times to something they experienced 'back home'). I get sick when I read comments with the word "greedy developer" in them. All people work to make money or profit. All businesses require profit. Successful business like TV make larger profits, because their investment is larger. Our developing family has perpetuated a vision, and improved upon that vision for the past 40 years. If they were like other developers, they would have built, then closed shop and turned everything over to the residents......who invariably mess it up and destroy a good thing (Sun City Center, Florida, a Del Webb development is a prime example). If you don't like what you thought you were moving to.....find another development that meets your needs.....don't try to change TV. Sumter county taxes remain in the lower level of Florida taxes (even after the 25 % increase). The 25% increase generally only applied to the newbies and part timers...as older resident's homestead kept their increases to under 10% (and less than 3% over 10 years).

There you go posting truth. Don't you know truth and reason were never part of the new Commissioner's agenda nor of interest to those who voted for them. You must be a "puppet of the Developer".

Bill14564 02-18-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1904367)
Please provide proof to back up this statement. A proposed lease copy? An actual lease? Without proof your comment is moot.

If that is the standard then there are a LOT of moot comments here.

Bill14564 02-18-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1904370)
It blows my mind when I read how people move to TV from other areas (obviously because they like the lifestyle, the physical structure and infastructure, and they could afford it) then they want to change The Villages (many times to something they experienced 'back home'). I get sick when I read comments with the word "greedy developer" in them. All people work to make money or profit. All businesses require profit. Successful business like TV make larger profits, because their investment is larger. Our developing family has perpetuated a vision, and improved upon that vision for the past 40 years. If they were like other developers, they would have built, then closed shop and turned everything over to the residents......who invariably mess it up and destroy a good thing (Sun City Center, Florida, a Del Webb development is a prime example). If you don't like what you thought you were moving to.....find another development that meets your needs.....don't try to change TV. Sumter county taxes remain in the lower level of Florida taxes (even after the 25 % increase). The 25% increase generally only applied to the newbies and part timers...as older resident's homestead kept their increases to under 10% (and less than 3% over 10 years).

Interesting. You start off arguing that people shouldn't want change then argue that change is what makes Sumter county successful. Some might argue that the 25% increase was a bit of a change over what they thought they were moving into.

Older resident's homestead caps tax increases? I'll have to look into that again, I didn't see that in the random tax records I looked at when arguing about the tax increase last year.

shopnstop 02-18-2021 08:49 PM

Only if it's the Villages 'hierachy'! The new commissioners are doing a terrific job
 
:bigbow:
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Originally Posted by Buckeye One (Post 1903653)
Who is up for a recall effort?


Vernon Hud 02-18-2021 09:35 PM

The only people that want to expand homesites and business south of 44 is The Villages developer. When we bought here in 2007, we were told The Villages would end with approximately 110,000 to 115,000 residents. I am sure if Gary Morse had lived, there would be no more building South of 44. I don't understand why they just didn't start a new development, instead trying to link both sides of 44. But no, they built homes, hardly any golf courses, 1 restaurant, no shopping areas, until they got so much crap about it, they had to change and finally started a shopping plaza, and a few more so called golf venues. Hopefully, they will have a few more restaurants there so they can get rid of the food trucks, not very good planning. Can you imagine how it is going to be over here north of 44 when all the bridges open up. It is hard to get a tee time now, just wait. I hope the new commissioners stick it to them, make them pay. But knowing them, they will find some way around it to keep there profits high. Let the new commissioners do their job.

Northwoods 02-18-2021 11:24 PM

The new commissioners need to figure out how to work and negotiate WITH The Developer. This anti-developer attitude is just juvenile to me. Try to negotiate the best outcome for Sumter County.

Coal Miner 02-19-2021 05:43 AM

They are doing great. Dont believe the Developers propaganda.

tjlee500 02-19-2021 06:07 AM

Please state exactly what they have done/not done to have a recall. These guys are new

J1ceasar 02-19-2021 06:15 AM

There is no need to negotiate. They are the commissioners they can make decisions on their own the developer will build houses no matter what the tax structure is even if it's 100% of the sale price for infrastructure because people are coming down and want the villages whether he sells 100 more or 100 less homes next year does not matter. Don't you guys get it he's just a constituent

DanBrew 02-19-2021 07:12 AM

So you can't be in politics unless you are a politician? Whenever I go to the voting booth, I never vote for the person that is promising to do anything for me. I vote for the one who promises not to do anything to me. Always remember there is but one thing that creates bureaucracies and that is bureaucrats.

dewilson58 02-19-2021 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vernon Hud (Post 1904517)
I am sure if Gary Morse had lived, there would be no more building South of 44.

Wrong.


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