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zonerboy 07-11-2015 10:32 PM

We don't need a "solution" to the roundabouts. All it takes to negotiate them is a minimum of common sense. In addition, if you want to play it safe, never attempt to pass another vehicle while in a roundabout. If you really need to pass some one, do it on the straight aways.

KristiB 07-13-2015 02:24 AM

There is this crazy invention in cars now-a-days called a blinker or indicator. It allows people to know if you plan on turning. This crazy concept would solve HALF of the problems with the RB's. Leaving a RB is no different than turning right or left off of a street (not that people religiously let other drivers know when they are doing that either). If people would use them to let others know when they are exiting the RB, it would allow the "outside" lane know, and also incoming traffic as well, so that traffic can flow smoother.....the whole point of a RB. There is no correcting bad drivers and lack of common sense, but I whole heartedly believe that every buyer (new or used house) and renter in TV should receive a piece of paper on how our RB's work. There are many people that have never driven in one until coming here. For some reason driving etiquette seems to disappear when arriving in TV. The signs make perfect sense, that is not the problem.

JayGeeFL 07-13-2015 04:00 AM

What is all the problem With the roundabouts? The crazy people here who Just don't get it. That's the problem ...
Only and I repeat ONLY here in the villages do you get people who think it's ok to not yield and drive straight onto the roundaboutdespite traffic already in the RB circle and better still those in the circle. Or those who slow down or STOP in the circle to allow cars to enter the roundabout .. This is where the cops should be giving tickets - ignorance is no excuse to Endanger other peoples lives. ?

JohnFromMaine 07-13-2015 04:57 AM

I'm not surprised that no one mentions using your turn signals. So many drivers, both cars and golf carts, don't use their turn signals. In cars in roundabouts, using your turn signal helps communicate your intentions but still, the best action is to drive carefully and defensively. Be alert for the other cars maybe doing the wrong thing.

tcxr750 07-13-2015 05:50 AM

Thanks to modern technology the RB will be saved by the Autonomous Automobile. While your texting and sipping a cool drink on the way to the golf course your AA will be navigating the RB without the need for your intervention. Truly, a brave new world.LOL

kalisak 07-13-2015 05:57 AM

Bridges are not only super expensive, but require much land for the approaches. You're looking at 40 acres at least for a RB like that. Wouldn't fit in TV.
Problem is people making left turns from the right lane. They stay in the right lane all the way to the third exit, and if someone is in the inside lane expecting them to exit at no2, you have a problem. They think its easier because they don't have to change lanes. The system works if people follow the rules. Of course there's many who don't - give them a ticket - word will get around -fast.

wrbrunk 07-13-2015 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFromMaine (Post 1086190)
I'm not surprised that no one mentions using your turn signals. So many drivers, both cars and golf carts, don't use their turn signals. In cars in roundabouts, using your turn signal helps communicate your intentions but still, the best action is to drive carefully and defensively. Be alert for the other cars maybe doing the wrong thing.

Perfectly said. :BigApplause:Can I have an Amen for JohnFromMaine?

Heyitsrick 07-13-2015 06:23 AM

Here's an example of a Dutch roundabout. The striping makes it pretty obvious what lane to be in, and you can see how an inside lane essentially becomes an outside lane (unless one veers inside where appropriate) depending upon the position one is in inside the RB:

http://i1.tinypic.com/xm8k1w.jpg

Here's a Google Earth image (you can zoom in/out on this) that shows a similar RB in Vancouver, WA that while not quite as clearly striped as the Dutch version, IMHO, looks familiar:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...91e3f3!6m1!1e1

mikebudd 07-13-2015 06:26 AM

roundabouts
 
Whatever you all decide please please use directional indicators so drivers, waiting till the last second for you to make up your mind, can start off, instead of sitting like spare dinners until you have made your turn. Please don't assume we are all clairvoyant !!

outlaw 07-13-2015 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1085602)
Really? a driver on the inside lane takes the first exit and causes a collision with a car in the right hand lane whose intention it is to take the second exit the the car on the outside is at fault?

Where did you read this?

Even if some document that The Villages produces says something like this, it doesn't supercede state law.

From your perspective, it may be the first exit. From that driver's perspective, it may be his third exit. It depends where the driver enters. Consequently, all four exits can be accessed legally from either lane. Thus the dilemma.

mtdjed 07-13-2015 06:41 AM

Roundabouts can be confusing to explain but common sense can prevail. I find two common issues most dangerous. 1/ When in the roundabout approaching an incoming road, cars incoming are supposed to yield. Always expect that they may not yield. 2/ When in a roundabout, cars in the outside lane are expected to turn right or go straight and those on the inside should go straight or turn left. Expect both to do the unexpected.

outlaw 07-13-2015 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1086202)
Here's an example of a Dutch roundabout. The striping makes it pretty obvious what lane to be in, and you can see how an inside lane essentially becomes an outside lane (unless one veers inside where appropriate) depending upon the position one is in inside the RB:

http://i1.tinypic.com/xm8k1w.jpg

Here's a Google Earth image (you can zoom in/out on this) that shows a similar RB in Vancouver, WA that while not quite as clearly striped as the Dutch version, IMHO, looks familiar:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...91e3f3!6m1!1e1

This makes more sense to me. It gives the right of way to the inside lane at each exit and forces the outside lane to exit at each exit...I think.

Golfer in Sanibel 07-13-2015 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1085400)
Actually the Villages states that if there is an accident, the person on the outside will be determined to be at fault.

I agree with Bonny. The Police will tell you the same. :BigApplause:

outlaw 07-13-2015 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1085400)
Actually the Villages states that if there is an accident, the person on the outside will be determined to be at fault.

That agrees with my initial post; "yield to the inside lane".... I feel better now.

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1086202)
Here's an example of a Dutch roundabout. The striping makes it pretty obvious what lane to be in, and you can see how an inside lane essentially becomes an outside lane (unless one veers inside where appropriate) depending upon the position one is in inside the RB:

http://i1.tinypic.com/xm8k1w.jpg

Here's a Google Earth image (you can zoom in/out on this) that shows a similar RB in Vancouver, WA that while not quite as clearly striped as the Dutch version, IMHO, looks familiar:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...91e3f3!6m1!1e1

Not so sure this is a great example. Looks like the white car and the dump truck at the top of the picture are 1/2 sec away from an "incident"


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