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mgman 07-13-2015 08:48 AM

simple one rule solution
 
So simple, one rule....If you cross a dotted line (or solid) you must yield to the lane you are moving to. That simple......and that is just what the law says. No concerns where you enter or where you exit. Just yield when you cross a line. If you want a second rule it would be......Be careful, many people don't follow rule one.

zonerboy 07-13-2015 08:49 AM

Most people moving here have been driving for at least 40 years. They drive as if nothing has changed since they got their first divers license, and they are completely unwilling to learn to handle anything new. Everything should be changed to accommodate how they drive.

biker1 07-13-2015 08:52 AM

Regarding crossing a dotted line, I believe that is already a law. Also, you can't cross a solid line.

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Originally Posted by mgman (Post 1086313)
So simple, one rule....If you cross a dotted line (or solid) you must yield to the lane you are moving to. That simple......and that is just what the law says. No concerns where you enter or where you exit. Just yield when you cross a line. If you want a second rule it would be......Be careful, many people don't follow rule one.


kathy 07-13-2015 08:56 AM

roundabouts
 
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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 1084874)
You can't fix stupid. The signs are clear in my opinion, If you want to go left stay in the left lane. If you want to go right get in the right lane. If you want to go straight then either lane. What is so darn hard about that?

AMEN to that

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Challenger 07-13-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mgman (Post 1086313)
So simple, one rule....If you cross a dotted line (or solid) you must yield to the lane you are moving to. That simple......and that is just what the law says. No concerns where you enter or where you exit. Just yield when you cross a line. If you want a second rule it would be......Be careful, many people don't follow rule one.

Agreed -- Solid line = do not cross. broken lines = must yeild to cars already in lane into which you intend to move. Same law everywhere in US.
No difference if the road is straight or circular.

What is not clear?

outlaw 07-13-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mgman (Post 1086313)
So simple, one rule....If you cross a dotted line (or solid) you must yield to the lane you are moving to. That simple......and that is just what the law says. No concerns where you enter or where you exit. Just yield when you cross a line. If you want a second rule it would be......Be careful, many people don't follow rule one.

I think that would be a better rule than those "map" signs that a newbie doesn't have the time to process. I know that when I was visiting here, I had no idea what those signs were indicating. Fortunately, I did not have an accident while I was figuring out what was proper. Now, I just have to deal with other people that don't know what they are supposed to do in the RBs.

outlaw 07-13-2015 09:13 AM

When I am turning leftwards in the RBs, my turn single mechanism resists locking into place to indicate a right turn. I have to hold it in place to fully indicate.

CaptainRickA 07-13-2015 09:16 AM

Turn Signal Usage Would Help
 
I think people who use their turn signals in the roundabouts considerably help others negotiating the roundabouts.

pianoman88 07-13-2015 10:13 AM

Absolutely. This is the ONLY way. Mikey, "use either lane" is the root of the problem. That has people crossing over from the inside to turn right or go straight. And, by the way, TURN SIGNALS are standard equipment on your car for a good reason. Even though Florida drivers rarely use them, they can be a big help.

njbchbum 07-13-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1086329)
I think that would be a better rule than those "map" signs that a newbie doesn't have the time to process. I know that when I was visiting here, I had no idea what those signs were indicating. Fortunately, I did not have an accident while I was figuring out what was proper. Now, I just have to deal with other people that don't know what they are supposed to do in the RBs.

'...doesn't have time..."? Funny, - I always find that I MUST MAKE THE TIME to learn about the important things like rules and regs!

wperry701 07-13-2015 10:43 AM

The round about problem could be corrected by posting a sign or painting arrows that state right lane must turn right. In so doing the driver in the inside lane can either turn right or go straight

DONMCGRAE 07-13-2015 10:52 AM

Don Mc Grae
 
As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wperry701 (Post 1086397)
The round about problem could be corrected by posting a sign or painting arrows that state right lane must turn right. In so doing the driver in the inside lane can either turn right or go straight

Which would in effect turn the right lane into a first exit only lane, thus all other traffic entering from 2 lanes would be forced to merge into the left lane---sounds like a recipe for disaster

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DONMCGRAE (Post 1086404)
As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!

And this "solution" just turns the RBs into a single lane as suggested by others. The answer is simple----YIELD. This means YIELD to traffic in both lanes already in the RB, YIELD to the bozo cutting in front of you to exit from the left lane, and better yet, do not ride side by side with anyone in a RB.
Rule 1: 2 cars cannot occupy the same space at the same time
Rule 2: Something like 70% of ALL accidents have the same cause---failure to YIELD the right of way. I was hoping that by the average age of the TV drivers, we would have lost the "me first" attitude. (That would be the same attitude that causes drivers to race ahead of a golf cart to beat them to a merge, the same attitude that leads to roping off seats at the squares, the same attitude that makes drivers turn on red and cut you off, etc.)

Polar Bear 07-13-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DONMCGRAE (Post 1086404)
As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!

Maybe nobody gets hurt (that's far from a certainty) but you've effectively halved the capacity of all connected roadways. Simply can't be done.


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