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-   -   Roundabout Solution!!!! (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/roundabout-solution-157508/)

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DONMCGRAE (Post 1086404)
As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!
and BTW, I thought you had right and left mixed up until I realized that everyone in the UK drives on the WRONG side of the road (lol):smiley:

forebubba 07-13-2015 11:41 AM
Are you turning left from the right lane???
 
The signs are very clear. Imagine you are going down a 4 lane road. 2 lanes in each direction. You need to turn left, do you turn left from the right lane? NO. Well this is true in the circles. Very simple isn't.

Bogie Shooter 07-13-2015 11:42 AM
Wonderful.............90 posts and counting.

rcpds 07-13-2015 11:49 AM
IMO ... get rid of the dual lanes ... single lane roundabouts ... yield to vehicles already in the roundabout ... majority of vehicles wait for a clearing to enter anyways

biker1 07-13-2015 11:53 AM
Bad idea as it cuts the bandwidth through the Roundabout in half. Just pay attention to the signs that indicated which lane you should be in.

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Originally Posted by rcpds (Post 1086437)
IMO ... get rid of the dual lanes ... single lane roundabouts ... yield to vehicles already in the roundabout ... majority of vehicles wait for a clearing to enter anyways

larimor 07-13-2015 12:07 PM
There are no roundabouts in The Villages. What we call traffic circles are really just round intersections. If you treat them that way, you will never have a problem. There are no law in FL specific to driving in them except it's illegal to drive on the center divider. The lines in the "round" intersection mark the travel lanes just as though the road were straight and by law requires signaling before crossing them. You cannot drive willy nilly through them as you please, like it or not.

outlaw 07-13-2015 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1086442)
Bad idea as it cuts the bandwidth through the Roundabout in half. Just pay attention to the signs that indicated which lane you should be in.
Actually, it doesn't cut the bandwidth in half. That would only be the case if all drivers maximized all the space in both lanes in the RBs and the RBs were completely filled to capacity.

biker1 07-13-2015 12:12 PM
I would add that you will see solid and dashed lines in the Roundabouts. Apparently, crossing a solid single line is discouraged but not illegal. This came as a bit of a surprise to me. Learned something new today.

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Originally Posted by larimor (Post 1086448)
There are no roundabouts in The Villages. What we call traffic circles are really just round intersections. If you treat them that way, you will never have a problem. There are no law in FL specific to driving in them except it's illegal to drive on the center divider. The lines in the "round" intersection mark the travel lanes just as though the road were straight and by law requires signaling before crossing them. You cannot drive willy nilly through them as you please, like it or not.

biker1 07-13-2015 12:13 PM
Whatever. It cuts the maximum bandwidth in half. Regardless, it would create a bottleneck with 2 lanes feeding down to one. Happy?

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1086449)
Actually, it doesn't cut the bandwidth in half. That would only be the case if all drivers maximized all the space in both lanes in the RBs and the RBs were completely filled to capacity.

Polar Bear 07-13-2015 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by larimor (Post 1086448)
There are no roundabouts in The Villages. What we call traffic circles are really just round intersections...
Heheh. Yeah. And there are no interchanges on interstate highways...just intersections with overpasses. :)

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1086463)
Heheh. Yeah. And there are no interchanges on interstate highways...just intersections with overpasses. :)
Good one:BigApplause:

ScottRAB 07-13-2015 12:36 PM
Two rules for modern roundabouts that are not well communicated:

do not pass other vehicles in a multi-lane circular roadway.
yield to all lanes in a multi-lane circular roadway

Not following these two rules is usually what causes most crashes at multi-lane modern roundabouts.

golfing eagles 07-13-2015 12:51 PM
[QUOTE=ScottRAB;1086476]Two rules for modern roundabouts that are not well communicated:

yield to all lanes in a multi-lane circular roadway

I assume you mean UPON ENTERING
Otherwise, it reminds me of a law still on the books in Kansas from 1870's----"When two trains approach an intersection of track, both must stop and neither can start until the other one does"

ecs828@me.com 07-13-2015 01:52 PM
I think exiting from the inside is just plain crazy, not to mention hazardous.
How about installing a sign BEFORE all entries that says "Merge right before entering roundabout", and having one lane only. As far as I know the only reason for two lanes is to accommodate emergency vehicles.

outlaw 07-13-2015 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1086453)
Whatever. It cuts the maximum bandwidth in half. Regardless, it would create a bottleneck with 2 lanes feeding down to one. Happy?
Sorry. It's the engineer in me. Two lanes feeding into the single lane RB may or may not create a bottleneck. Again, it is a capacity thing. I think for about 90% of the time, a single lane RB would move traffic smoothly. In the winter, during rush hour, one may experience a backup...


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