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Polar Bear 01-23-2016 04:46 PM

Rt 44 & Powell Rd
 
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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1176474)
I don't believe in fate or happenstance or magical thinking. Everything in this world has a natural cause. Typically by the hands of humans or animals or nature. Nothing happens by accident.

Is it "typically" or not? It can't be "typically" when you're claiming it's 100% of the time.

And if you're saying all things can be explained by the laws of the universe, then we agree. But that's not how the human definition of "accident" works.

And you don't have to believe in "fate or happenstance or magical thinking" to believe that accidents...unavoidable by any reasonable definition of the word...do happen.

tuccillo 01-23-2016 04:49 PM

You are driving along and and have a blowout that causes you to swerve into the other lane and hit another car. The tires are new and properly inflated. Nothing stupid was done. It was an accident.

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1176434)
Be that as it may if it makes you feel better. The fact is this, " accidents " occur because one or more parties to the " accident " did something STUPID. I prefer " crash " because that's what it is.


Polar Bear 01-23-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1176481)
You are driving along and and have a blowout that causes you to swerve into the other lane and hit another car. The tires are new and properly inflated. Nothing stupid was done. It was an accident.

You're looking at this with far, far too much common sense, tucillo. :)

Marathon Man 01-23-2016 05:10 PM

For some reason the term 'accident' came to mean an auto collision with an object or another auto. A seperate meaning is something that happens out of anyone's control. I think that you are all correct.

graciegirl 01-23-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1176493)
For some reason the term 'accident' came to mean an auto collision with an object or another auto. A seperate meaning is something that happens out of anyone's control. I think that you are all correct.



Marathon Man is from Ohio. A peaceful and calm person with good parents.

RickeyD 01-23-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1176479)
Is it "typically" or not? It can't be "typically" when you're claiming it's 100% of the time.

And if you're saying all things can be explained by the laws of the universe, then we agree. But that's not how the human definition of "accident" works.

And you don't have to believe in "fate or happenstance or magical thinking" to believe that accidents...unavoidable by any reasonable definition of the word...do happen.

Sorry, not buying it. " I forgot ", " wasn't me ", " he did it ", " not my fault ",
" I couldn't see ", " it just happened ", " I couldn't help it ", " I drank too much ", " I was upset ", " I wasn't thinking ", " I couldn't do it ", " I didn't realize "', etc. etc. etc. ALL BS :grumpy:
The fact is THIS. Someone died on 44 because someone wasn't thinking straight and it ****es me off. Accident, my ass.

Polar Bear 01-23-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1176498)
Sorry, not buying it. " I forgot ", " wasn't me ", " he did it ", " not my fault ",
" I couldn't see ", " it just happened ", " I couldn't help it ", " I drank too much ", " I was upset ", " I wasn't thinking ", " I couldn't do it ", " I didn't realize "', etc. etc. etc. ALL BS :grumpy:
The fact is THIS. Someone died on 44 because someone wasn't thinking straight and it ****es me off. Accident, my ass.

Nobody used those words except you.

And make up your mind. Now you're referencing a single incident. You can't use that to prove your claim that there is NEVER such a thing as a true, "out of anyone's control", accident.

RickeyD 01-23-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1176496)
Marathon Man is from Ohio. A peaceful and calm person with good parents.

Please adopt me Gracie. :thumbup:

RickeyD 01-23-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1176502)
Nobody used those words except you.

And make up your mind. Now you're referencing a single incident. You can't use that to prove your claim that there is NEVER such a thing as an accident.

Didn't say never, I am a reasonable man after all.

dbussone 01-23-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1176481)
You are driving along and and have a blowout that causes you to swerve into the other lane and hit another car. The tires are new and properly inflated. Nothing stupid was done. It was an accident.


True!

Polar Bear 01-23-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1176474)
...Nothing happens by accident.

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RickeyD 01-23-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1176509)
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Come on, go for it. I'll buy you a beer...

Topspinmo 01-23-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1175870)
The only real accident I believe would be a medical condition which you have absolutely no knowledge of and strikes with no warning. In that case you truly are not in control. A mechanical failure can happen that is inherent in it's design and those cases have been litigated with the manufacturer proven at fault. I don't accept floor mats that impede control nor blowouts. These things can be prevented. Engines that suddenly stop or brakes failing are rare and if so can typically be traced to poor maintenance. I also don't like the fact that Florida does not require safety inspections. Poor judgement in some way by one or more parties cause crashes. Let's not loose site of texting or talking on the phone while driving. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

States with safety inspections turned into revenue collections cause like tax everybody got have finger in the pot. There is no proof that state ran safety inspection prevent accidents. ( if so the manulipate numbers to fit there agenda TAX)

it's texting, talking on the phone, not pay attention, poor drivers training, and DSs trying to get one car ahead cutting off traffic. Or it's Johnny speed racer on cc high.

Polar Bear 01-23-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1176510)
Come on, go for it. I'll buy you a beer...

All right!! A peaceful, civil resolution! With maybe a touch of agree-to-disagree thrown in. I can live with that. :)

RickeyD 01-23-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1176514)
States with safety inspections turned into revenue collections cause like tax everybody got have finger in the pot. There is no proof that state ran safety inspection prevent accidents. ( if so the manulipate numbers to fit there agenda TAX)

it's texting, talking on the phone, not pay attention, poor drivers training, and DSs trying to get one car ahead cutting off traffic. Or it's Johnny speed racer on cc high.

It can be inferred that a low income person driving a beater will defer what needs to be done when the pad rivets are grooving out his rotors. An inspection would require the brakes to be repaired.


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