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golfing eagles 01-17-2016 08:05 AM

Sorry this happened to you, Tal. Even sorrier that some think you were wrong on some level. Perhaps re-wording the situation might help some understand:

The OP was at the postal station with 50 open parking spaces. He was on the passenger side helping his 102 year old mother into the seat when someone pulled into the space next to him and impatiently tried to "bully" him out of her way, forcing him to move to avoid being hit. Is that behavior acceptable as well, or is it different when it is a dog?

Some thought he was looking for a fight by giving a "nasty" look. He wasn't the one with the 2 ton lethal weapon. I have an even temper, but in a situation like this I would, and actually have a few times, gone over to the driver and in my best Ben Carson voice tell him. "Please move your car, or I will move it for you. You will be far better off choosing the first option" Worked 2 for 2 so far.

And even if this was the last parking space available and 10 cars were circling the lot to find one, there is no reason why the driver couldn't pull halfway in to claim the space and wait 10 sec. for the rest of the space to clear.

Like the title of the thread----RUDE

rustyp 01-17-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172734)
Haven't seen any sign like that either. Makes little sense since it is also the neighborhood pool and rec center.


The parking spots immediately in front of the postal boxes at Paradise does - and it's pretty big. Look and let us know the next time your at Lyndhaven if there is one. However common sense to me is that is what those parking spots immediately in front of the boxes are for. If you went to get your mail in the afternoon and there was no place to park and a bunch of doggie owners milling around parading off their pride and joy - well let's just say that would have started another entitlement thread.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1172740)
The parking spots immediately in front of the postal boxes at Paradise does - and it's pretty big. Look and let us know the next time your at Lyndhaven if there is one. However common sense to me is that is what those parking spots immediately in front of the boxes are for. If you went to get your mail in the afternoon and there was no place to park and a bunch of doggie owners milling around parading off their pride and joy - well let's just say that would have started another entitlement thread.

Does Paradise have a pool there too?

Again there were maybe 15 cars in the parking lot when this happened and some of these people were using the pool and often stay there for an hour or more.

There were probably 50-60 open spots.

I did think of just telling the woman to stop her car and go to another parking space but actually am a very non-confrontational person. I just got my dog in safely to his car seat-- which takes about 25 seconds-- and then went around and got in my car and left while giving this woman's back a very hard glare.

Boomer 01-17-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lambchop285 (Post 1172661)
i work at a local store and it amazes me how nasty people are from January thru April.... I mean NASTY!

There always will be people who try to make themselves feel better by making others feel worse. Some of it comes from a need to feel like they have power. (cringe) Try to remember it's their problem not yours.

Working with the public sure can be a challenge sometimes.

Just pretend it's theater as those characters "strut and fret" upon the stage.

outlaw 01-17-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172638)
I never said if were a cop, that I would have done that. But if a person pushed their vehicle at a cop putting her dog into her cop car, I would not expect that scenario to go well for the person driving the car heading towards the police car.

I detect something personal here against me Outlaw. I got out of the woman's way as fast as I could. I did have to get Beau safe though.

And I am not sure how old this woman was/is. She could have been as young as 55. To maybe 75.

Same with Kahuna32162. I have had mean spirited posts from this person as well. I have no idea why these two people seem to have animosity towards me.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172523)
Many are not getting why I am having a problem with this. A car is a dangerous weapon and should not be used to push people along if you are impatient with them. There were probably 60 or more parking spots where this woman could have parked rather than using her car to speed me up from getting Beau into his car seat.

I can put up with the everyday grouches but when a dangerous weapon is concerned like a car; that is different. Pull this with your car against a cop putting his or her dog in the car and you would probably get tazed maybe even shot .

Tal, see bold sentence. Nothing personal against you; just don't agree with your justification for your anger, and as you continued to post, your story seemed to indicate that you may have been in a bad mood and the slightest thing was going to cause you to react negatively. I'm actually surprised that so many posters immediately assumed this person, who you said could have been 75 yrs old, was intentionally forcing you to move with her car. Could it have been that she was an impaired senior (vision, motor control, dementia) who shouldn't be driving, and did not realize how close she was getting to you? You tell the story as if you could read her mind and knew her intentions. And then we have the added aggravating factor of the "2 mph lethal weapon" statement. I'm waiting for the attempted murder accusation. It just seems totally out of control. And now we have a thread that morphed into a rant on how there are so many rude people in TV. And the typical TV cheerleaders actually joining in to bolster that view! Surprise. Anyway, only you know what happened, but I would not be at all surprised if that lady had no clue that you felt rushed, forced, intimidated, or whatever. She may have never even realized what went down.

outlaw 01-17-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172739)
Sorry this happened to you, Tal. Even sorrier that some think you were wrong on some level. Perhaps re-wording the situation might help some understand:

The OP was at the postal station with 50 open parking spaces. He was on the passenger side helping his 102 year old mother into the seat when someone pulled into the space next to him and impatiently tried to "bully" him out of her way, forcing him to move to avoid being hit. Is that behavior acceptable as well, or is it different when it is a dog?

Some thought he was looking for a fight by giving a "nasty" look. He wasn't the one with the 2 ton lethal weapon. I have an even temper, but in a situation like this I would, and actually have a few times, gone over to the driver and in my best Ben Carson voice tell him. "Please move your car, or I will move it for you. You will be far better off choosing the first option" Worked 2 for 2 so far.

And even if this was the last parking space available and 10 cars were circling the lot to find one, there is no reason why the driver couldn't pull halfway in to claim the space and wait 10 sec. for the rest of the space to clear.

Like the title of the thread----RUDE

Beau is a dog, not a 102 yo mother. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 09:34 AM

I doubt if this woman did not know what she was doing was wrong. She just did nor care.

She was a brunette of anywhere from 55 through 75 and moved fine. I had not parked near the Postal Center but maybe three to five parking spaces away from it. These spaces were all full though with maybe eight cars parked with people getting their mail.

And in a community this size there are going to be people who are just not very considerate of other people.

Again the problem I am having is someone using her car to clear the parking space someone else was occupying. She stopped, saw that I was busy messing with my dog Beau and just decided to keep on coming with her car even though I was still in that parking space. I am still angry about this type of behavior. And she was coming in at a good speed when she started to push me out of the way using her car as a broom. I had to slam the door and get close to the car to make sure she did not hit me with her car.

There was a witness who did not seem to believe what this woman did too. She saw the glare I gave the woman. Again this could have been a woman of 55 or so. The witness was a Senior of maybe 70-85.

rustyp 01-17-2016 09:40 AM

To all of you I apologize for having a little bit of fun on a rainy morning. You guys keep it up and have your fun. Breakfast is ready.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172823)
Beau is a dog, not a 102 yo mother. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It's called an analogy. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1172834)
To all of you I apologize for having a little bit of fun on a rainy morning. You guys keep it up and have your fun. Breakfast is ready.

Weird idea of having fun. I need some lobster.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172841)
Weird idea of having fun. I need some lobster.

Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.
Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?

outlaw 01-17-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172824)
I doubt if this woman did not know what she was doing was wrong. She just did nor care.

She was a brunette of anywhere from 55 through 75 and moved fine. I had not parked near the Postal Center but maybe three to five parking spaces away from it. These spaces were all full though with maybe eight cars parked with people getting their mail.

And in a community this size there are going to be people who are just not very considerate of other people.

Again the problem I am having is someone using her car to clear the parking space someone else was occupying. She stopped, saw that I was busy messing with my dog Beau and just decided to keep on coming with her car even though I was still in that parking space. I am still angry about this type of behavior. And she was coming in at a good speed when she started to push me out of the way using her car as a broom. I had to slam the door and get close to the car to make sure she did not hit me with her car.

There was a witness who did not seem to believe what this woman did too. She saw the glare I gave the woman. Again this could have been a woman of 55 or so. The witness was a Senior of maybe 70-85.

Well, this additional information really changes things. I didn't realize she stopped, saw you clearly, and then sped up. I didn't know you had to "slam the door" to get out of the way. And then there was a witness that confirmed her outrageous behavior. Wow! Sorry for your unfortunate experience. And stay vigilant. Hope Beau is alright, too.

outlaw 01-17-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172851)
Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.
Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?

The flowers have just been replaced...it's a quarterly thing.

outlaw 01-17-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172840)
It's called an analogy. Please try to keep up.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I know...Please see your psychiatrist.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172858)
I know...Please see your psychiatrist.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I made weekly appointments:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Of course, I'm treating HIM.
Care to join for group therapy?????

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172854)
The flowers have just been replaced...it's a quarterly thing.

Forgot that one. Sorry.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 10:14 AM

There's a retired psychiatric social worker who comes to Doggie Doo Run Run often in these early Winter months. He has the most timid dog named Moo.

He is fun to talk to at times. Except when the Patriots lose especially if it is to the Ravens.

I can see some of this discussion though sending him to see his psychiatrist if he even has one.

outlaw 01-17-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172868)
I made weekly appointments:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Of course, I'm treating HIM.
Care to join for group therapy?????

I would love to...now about that placard. Can you help me out? Oh wait, I think this $100 bill just fell out of your pocket.

tomwed 01-17-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172874)
What is your intention? Try reading ALL the thread posts instead of just jumping in and slinging mud. That scenario was NOT my creative invention. It was the OPs! My intention was to give my opinion. Go to facebook if you want group think.

It's true. I read everything but don't remember everything I read. I'm sorry if I thought you were suggesting police officers, guns and tasers when it was someone else's worst case scenario.
I meant no harm.
I see a steady stream of imaginative people predicting the worst who are living in the safest place I have ever lived.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1172889)
It's true. I read everything but don't remember everything I read. I'm sorry if I thought you were suggesting police officers, guns and tasers when it was someone else's worst case scenario.
I meant no harm.
I see a steady stream of imaginative people predicting the worst who are living in the safest place I have ever lived.

I can imagine this woman doing this to someone else in the Villages and having quite a different outcome. I avoid confrontation as much as possible; others run to it.

Hopefully, she was having a very bad day and this will not happen again that she uses her car as a broom.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172881)
I would love to...now about that placard. Can you help me out? Oh wait, I think this $100 bill just fell out of your pocket.

So far, a lot of this is just tongue in cheek fun. Some of it is serious considering what happened to the OP. But this last comment of yours borders on the insulting.
Now if you really, really want one, I'll open the bidding at 5 million:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

RickeyD 01-17-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172838)
You obviously haven't read the COMPLETE thread.

Duly noted :shocked:

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172893)
I can imagine this woman doing this to someone else in the Villages and having quite a different outcome. I avoid confrontation as much as possible; others run to it.

Hopefully, she was having a very bad day and this will not happen again that she uses her car as a broom.

That's very true. Personally, I'm non-violent. But if she did this to me, intentionally, she would need that broom to sweep up the pieces of what is left of her car. I'll face the vandalism charge and make restitution. How will she handle the reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon charges????

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172903)
That's very true. Personally, I'm non-violent. But if she did this to me, intentionally, she would need that broom to sweep up the pieces of what is left of her car. I'll face the vandalism charge and make restitution. How will she handle the reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon charges????

She did stop her car and I stopped fiddling with Beau to she what she was doing. When she started coming in I tried to get Beau in as best I could without putting his tail in harm's way, slammed the door, and got to the other side of the car. Then I left after giving her back the hardest glare I had in me.

I have never seen this woman before this. Beau does have a problem with a certain dog--Milo-- that comes to the Postal Center but this was not that dog's owner. That is all Beau's fault too as far as Milo is concerned as for some reason he just really dislikes Milo even though they have never come face-to-face.

Milo's owner does walk with a cane so I try to be as sensitive to her needs as possible by taking Beau where Milo is not.

tomwed 01-17-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172874)
What is your intention?

Was that a rhetorical question?

outlaw 01-17-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172897)
So far, a lot of this is just tongue in cheek fun. Some of it is serious considering what happened to the OP. But this last comment of yours borders on the insulting.
Now if you really, really want one, I'll open the bidding at 5 million:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I know you hope I fall into the trap of the inexperienced and counter with "let's split the difference", but....

outlaw 01-17-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1172937)
Was that a rhetorical question?

If you prefer it that way.

outlaw 01-17-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1172907)
She did stop her car and I stopped fiddling with Beau to she what she was doing. When she started coming in I tried to get Beau in as best I could without putting his tail in harm's way, slammed the door, and got to the other side of the car. Then I left after giving her back the hardest glare I had in me.

I have never seen this woman before this. Beau does have a problem with a certain dog--Milo-- that comes to the Postal Center but this was not that dog's owner. That is all Beau's fault too as far as Milo is concerned as for some reason he just really dislikes Milo even though they have never come face-to-face.

Milo's owner does walk with a cane so I try to be as sensitive to her needs as possible by taking Beau where Milo is not.

Tal, I was finished with this until your last post. Now I'm not saying this is so, but could it be that when she stopped and you looked up at her, she thought you were aware of her presence, and by not gesturing for her to not enter, she started edging in thinking innocently that you would let her know if she was intruding on you? This could have just been a big misunderstanding. If I were you, I would chalk this up to a mistake, not an intentional aggression.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172939)
I know you hope I fall into the trap of the inexperienced and counter with "let's split the difference", but....

OK, 10 million and we'll split the difference:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172943)
Tal, I was finished with this until your last post. Now I'm not saying this is so, but could it be that when she stopped and you looked up at her, she thought you were aware of her presence, and by not gesturing for her to not enter, she started edging in thinking innocently that you would let her know if she was intruding on you? This could have just been a big misunderstanding. If I were you, I would chalk this up to a mistake, not an intentional aggression.

Isn't it more logical to stay stopped and not move until you're gestured to proceed? It's sort of like driving at a pedestrian crossing the road at 45 mph. and planning to continue unless the pedestrian gives you a stop gesture. I, of course, would have a different gesture in mind.....

tomwed 01-17-2016 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by tomwed View Post
Was that a rhetorical question?

If you prefer it that way.
No not really. I'm not being cagey.

I want you to say what you want.

Like when you see someone and you ask "How's it going?" You want to hear "Great" not their life story since the last time you saw them.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1172952)
Originally Posted by tomwed View Post
Was that a rhetorical question?

If you prefer it that way.
No not really. I want you to say what you want.

Be careful what you wish for:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tomwed 01-17-2016 11:42 AM

I'm speechless.

Sandtrap328 01-17-2016 12:07 PM

That post covered at least 5 years of living in The Villages.

I laughed so hard that I almost spilled my morning beer!

:BigApplause:

dbussone 01-17-2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1172851)
Maybe lobster benedict for breakfast? Seems like the last 24 hrs. on TOTV has brought back the handicapped parking/rude people/cyclist on roads threads.

Anyone want to resurrect seat saving, coyotes, and MMP striping?


Or dog poop.

golfing eagles 01-17-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1173001)
Or dog poop.

Please, please, please---not the dog poop again, it's a $h1tty topic:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tomwed 01-17-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1173005)
Please, please, please---not the dog poop again, it's a $h1tty topic:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You're just being fecetious.

dbussone 01-17-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1173013)
You're just being fecetious.


And a party pooper.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1172967)
Breakfast over
I was on my way to pick up the mail which is next to the doggie park. I see this young person walking a dog that just did it's business. The young whipper snapper simply walks away without picking up the evidence. I was so upset that these young people have no respect for our community I shouted out you must be 55 to live here. The young person flipped me the bird and I did an immedite U turn in my golf cart. I fell out of the cart because I forgot to put my seat belt on. I lie there on the ground and another golf cart almost runs me over. I was in district 4 where the MMPs are stripped and the driver refused to cross the line to get to the other lane. The Community Watch guy shows up and tells me not to move. I tell I'm alright but I obey his authority. I think he has authority. Well I had plenty of time to reflect on should I pay off my bond or will I loose my tax deduction - no conclusion. The EMT's finally arrived far over their usual 6 minute response time and were very apoligetic. They explained they were on a call to rescue a snowbird that fliped their car over in a roundabout. They wre trying to avoid a bicyclist that flipped them the bird for not giving three feet clearance. EMT's explained the good news for the birds was immedite entry to The Villages Hospital due to being transported in. Out of no where the police show up and drill me if I been drinking and driving my golf cart on a MMP. I said I only had one which I got at the square during happy hour. I explain I felt guilty passing the square without supporting The Developer for providing me such a great place to live. I also hear tell the developer may be in danger of not maximizing their profits. Well civic duty called. The LEO's stll made me walk the line. I passed the test - good thing cause I overheard them talking to each other did they really have jusistriction on a MMP. The dust has settled and I'm free to go. OH NO I just remember I have a tee time in 15 minutes - I'm already within the 20 minute rule. I put my cart to the boards. I must confess probably doing 22 mph but that's the risk I have to take. I know dam well if I get into an accident while speeding my insurance won't cover it. Dam the topedoes I'm late for golf. I get to Turtle Mound and there are no parking spots. Some ignorant inconsiderate person parked over the line taking up two spaces. Even though I'm late I stop and take a picture with my cell phone to send to "the other newspaper" tomorrow. I get to the starter shack window and this overly friendly man explains I lost my tee time and just earned myself three cancellation points. Dejected I leave. Back on the MMP I realize I have not eaten today. I wheel into one of the four one owner concession country club resturants for a bite. I forgot my customer loyalty card at home and had to pay full price for a drink. I order my meal and it took 1.2 hour to arrive and it was cold. I wanted to send it back but I read on TOTV never send food back to a kitchen. Do you know what they do to it in there? I get the manager (looks like 16 years old) to complain and to my surprise he apoligized and compted me dessert. Well I don't eat desserts so I pass. I leave quietly. I felt sorry for the owner because the place was so busy and they need to maximize profits during high season. I call it a night. I'm driving home and remember I started out to get the mail. I pull into the postal station and guess what I see. A person buckling a dog into the seat of their car while another inconsiderate renter is trying to run them down with her car in the adjacent parking spot.

Your turn.

Do you drive a white van and are a female with white hair and probably named ????

That's quite funny though. You forgot while you were reading Andrew Blechman's Leisureville borrowed from the Mark Twain volunteer library.

On another note. I do not believe this woman who almost ran me over was waiting for a come on through as my back was turned to her when she sped up after that stop as I was trying to get Beau into the car seat. I managed to get Beau in the seat, and slammed the door, and turned around while she was passing me a foot or so to my right with her car.

This person will probably be in the police blotter if she is not quite careful with her actions.


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