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Walter123 03-24-2016 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 1203085)
OK so where does a child come into this post? Not sue how that came about.
:faint:

It is all about Saftey, Street legal carts are still designed for a set speed, just because they drive on the street as so called " STREET LEGAL" does not indicate they have upgrade to a stronger brake system. Some carts set up higher thus more prone to turn overs if they had to swerve or turn real fast to avoid something.
Just called a friend with SCSO. He indicated to me he just stopped a cart couple weeks back. Doing 37 in a 25. He told me the cart had a hard time stopping. So I am thinking even street legal carts are not designed for speeds above factory settings.

Just a thought :spoken:

Good post Gary. :agree:

fred53 03-24-2016 07:29 AM

Only if...
 
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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1203053)
No more insane than a motorcycle doing the same speed.

you're writing about protection. Otherwise there is a world of difference physically(designed to handle speed, disk brakes, gearing, drive, wheels, clothing, helmet, etc).

2BNTV 03-24-2016 07:30 AM

I was on the golf cart path and someone passed me doing at least 35 MPH!!!

I almost got out of my cart, as I thought I was stopped!!!!

PLeaaaauuuuuuussssssseeeeeeee!!!!! Leave a little bit earlier.

Walter123 03-24-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1203104)
Don't you love when you get passed and get flipped off for going the legal limit on cart path

Those drivers are idiots plain and simple. LSV's should not be allowed on MMP"s.
They are a danger to everyone.

outlaw 03-24-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1203098)
street legal vehicles have 4 wheel hydraulic brakes. don't comment if you don't know what a lsv is. it takes more than ability to go 25mph to be have street legal designation.

That is incorrect. Most street legal carts do not have 4 wheel brakes, much less hydraulic brakes. Anyone can take a basic electric golf cart designed for golf courses, add lights, turn signals, horn, mirrors, seat belts and single pane windshield, etc., and get it certified locally for driving on the street. Then you can get it licensed and insured. Example: Parcar, which has been building LSVs for years, does not have four wheel or hydraulic brakes.

outlaw 03-24-2016 07:46 AM

The maximum speed of a 2015 Yamaha with 10" wheels and high speed gear set is 26 mph, with the governor adjusted all the way. A 40 mph Yamaha would likely have been modified with a different electric motor. Federal statute (as written about 3 yrs ago) require LSVs to be electric powered.

Topspinmo 03-24-2016 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1203068)
I believe that street legal carts have upgraded brakes, seat belts etc. I'd rather take the 4 wheel risk over 2 wheel, if given the choice.

No, Exact same cart that I have. I got close up look, Didn't see seat belts either.

Uberschaf 03-24-2016 08:01 AM

Par Car NEV's have hydraulic brakes but only rear brakes.They also have split windshields.

Topspinmo 03-24-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1203098)
street legal vehicles have 4 wheel hydraulic brakes. don't comment if you don't know what a lsv is. it takes more than ability to go 25mph to be have street legal designation.

This was NOT LSV by design. IT WAS GOLF CART with Plate on it just like the one I have with NO 4 wheel Hydraulic BRAKES and Yes I could see through the mag wheels it didn't have disk brakes. I See Club Cars which are even cheaper made clocking along at 30.

Walter123 03-24-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1203098)
street legal vehicles have 4 wheel hydraulic brakes. don't comment if you don't know what a lsv is. it takes more than ability to go 25mph to be have street legal designation.

Don't comment if you don't know what a LSV is.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-24-2016 08:12 AM

While I do't agree with LSVs going 40 mph, I don't like the idea that a vehicle that's only capable of going 25 is allowed to drive on roads where the speed limit is 35.

The law should be changed one way or the other. If LSVs can do 35, then they should be allowed to. But they should also have all of the safety equipment necessary such a four wheel brakes that are necessary to stop the vehicle at that speed. I've seen golf cart with plates and
Street Legal stickers on them that don't have a solid windshield or wipers. As far as I know, they shouldn't be declared to be street legal.
As far a people's concerns about them tipping over when swerving or being struck by a vehicle weighing ten times their weight, how is that any different from a motorcycle? Should we ban motorcycles because if they get hit by a ten ton truck they are in trouble.
I say let the LSVs go 35 or 40 but also make sure that they are equipped in every way to go that speed.
But we shouldn't be allowing vehicles that can only go 25 on streets where the speed limit is 35.

Chellybean 03-24-2016 08:14 AM

Ok, lets see how many people get fired up over this.
I was going throw the gate at Morse on pinnelas heading west and a cart crossed in front of me and i had to slam on the breaks.
I yelled at the fool as they stopped in the middle of the gate missing them by a foot.
As i yelled at them are you crazy i could of killed you.
As they Replied "Carts Have the right of Way" ( others in the golf cart path waiting to cross also yelled at the fools)
As i and the Guard at the gate yelled at them saying it is not a Cross walk and carts do not have the right of way on top of you could of gotten killed
As the Guard approached my car as he was shaking his head to see if i needed anything i replied did you hear and see that Jerk.
As he replied his boss told him the other day control the gates for the car traffic going throw and if the Golf Carts do something stupid and put themselves at risk they are on there own.
He also said you can't believe the idiots i see in a course of a day working the gates.
Just complete stupidity.
Is golf more important then your safety!'
The only thing i can say is ADULT IDIOTS.
Now lets see how much heat i take for this!!!!!!!!!

VApeople 03-24-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1203148)
Ok, lets see how many people get fired up over this.!!!!!!!!!

You did a great job by being alert and expecting people to do stupid things. That is how we experienced drivers avoid being in accidents. Again, Great Job!!

Of course, tomorrow the same stupid people will do the same stupid things and we can't do anything to prevent it.

twoplanekid 03-24-2016 08:40 AM

Everyone should attend at least once the VHA Golf Cart safety clinic held at the Colony Recreation Center at 9:00 AM on the third (3rd) Wednesday Morning of each month.

Some should attend every month! :icon_wink:

outlaw 03-24-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Uberschaf (Post 1203136)
Par Car NEV's have hydraulic brakes but only rear brakes.They also have split windshields.

My Parcar did not have hydraulic brakes or a split windshield, and it was a new "NEV", street legal, vin, licensed, and insured. I believe it was a 2003 model.


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