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outlaw 03-24-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1203148)
Ok, lets see how many people get fired up over this.
I was going throw the gate at Morse on pinnelas heading west and a cart crossed in front of me and i had to slam on the breaks.
I yelled at the fool as they stopped in the middle of the gate missing them by a foot.
As i yelled at them are you crazy i could of killed you.
As they Replied "Carts Have the right of Way" ( others in the golf cart path waiting to cross also yelled at the fools)
As i and the Guard at the gate yelled at them saying it is not a Cross walk and carts do not have the right of way on top of you could of gotten killed
As the Guard approached my car as he was shaking his head to see if i needed anything i replied did you hear and see that Jerk.
As he replied his boss told him the other day control the gates for the car traffic going throw and if the Golf Carts do something stupid and put themselves at risk they are on there own.
He also said you can't believe the idiots i see in a course of a day working the gates.
Just complete stupidity.
Is golf more important then your safety!'
The only thing i can say is ADULT IDIOTS.
Now lets see how much heat i take for this!!!!!!!!!

Were you upset?

outlaw 03-24-2016 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1203104)
Don't you love when you get passed and get flipped off for going the legal limit on cart path

You haven't really been "flipped off" for going the speed limit on the MMP?!

outlaw 03-24-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1203117)
Those drivers are idiots plain and simple. LSV's should not be allowed on MMP"s.
They are a danger to everyone.

LSVs are only allowed to legally go no more than 25 mph, period. If they can go faster than 25 mph, they are just as illegal as a golf cart that can exceed 20 mph. Any golf cart can be modified to go much faster. LSVs are not any more dangerous than any other golf cart, some are safer because of stronger frames and other required safety features. It's the owner that is the culprit, not the vehicle.

Walter123 03-24-2016 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1203166)
LSVs are only allowed to legally go no more than 25 mph, period. If they can go faster than 25 mph, they are just as illegal as a golf cart that can exceed 20 mph. Any golf cart can be modified to go much faster. LSVs are not any more dangerous than any other golf cart, some are safer because of stronger frames and other required safety features. It's the owner that is the culprit, not the vehicle.

Yes, as my Dad would say "It's the loose nut behind the wheel" and having a loose nut behind the wheel makes the LSV dangerous. It is very tempting to want to pass someone when you have an LSV or a modified golf cart Why else would a person modify their cart but to go faster than everybody else? I'm just saying that LSV owners are likely to surpass the 20MPH speed limit on the MMP's. Remove the temptation by banning LSV's from the MMP's.

outlaw 03-24-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1203167)
Yes, as my Dad would say "It's the loose nut behind the wheel" and having a loose nut behind the wheel makes the LSV dangerous. It is very tempting to want to pass someone when you have an LSV or a modified golf cart Why else would a person modify their cart but to go faster than everybody else? I'm just saying that LSV owners are likely to surpass the 20MPH speed limit on the MMP's. Remove the temptation by banning LSV's from the MMP's.

I get what you are saying. I just don't like banning something after the fact. The LSV owners bought their LSV with the understanding that they could use them on the street (if licensed and insured), as well as golf courses and MMPs. It's the person, not the vehicle. The fastest golf carts I have seen on the MMPs have been modified regular old golf carts; not LSVs.

Chellybean 03-24-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1203164)
Were you upset?

first it scared the *ell out of me"
2nd i had to clean my shorts!
Third i was upset.

Does that answer your question?

Barefoot 03-24-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1203082)
Wish our paper would post a picture of an adult holding an infant & caption it " what's wrong with this picture"

:agree: The picture of the adult holding the infant should be on the front page of the newspaper. The picture should include a couple of young children who are strapped into the golf club holders. :ohdear:


red tail 03-24-2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1203123)
That is incorrect. Most street legal carts do not have 4 wheel brakes, much less hydraulic brakes. Anyone can take a basic electric golf cart designed for golf courses, add lights, turn signals, horn, mirrors, seat belts and single pane windshield, etc., and get it certified locally for driving on the street. Then you can get it licensed and insured. Example: Parcar, which has been building LSVs for years, does not have four wheel or hydraulic brakes.

incorrect....a lsv must meet certain criteria to obtain a license plate which includes a VIN among other things like 3 point seat belts,safety windshield etc etc

RickeyD 03-24-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1203206)
:agree: The picture of the adult holding the infant should be on the front page of the newspaper. The picture should include a couple of young children who are strapped into the golf club holders. :ohdear:



Should CPS be contacted ? I think so. Some people need a smack to wake up their common sense.

DonH57 03-24-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 1203111)
Personally, I think common sense has gone out the window for a lot of folks operating a golf cart beyond it's purpose and design. I also believe much of this is an "ego", "macho", "look at me" attitude". I fail to see why someone wants to go fast(er) in their golf cart. Why in the world are you in such a hurry, where are you going? If it's essential that I drive over a safe speed (20 mph or less) in the golf cart, I'll take the car. We like to just leisurely cruise around in the cart and enjoy ourselves. Less stress, on me and the equipment.

I agree. There's the " Look at Me" people and then the others who, even in retirement never learned how to manage time. I like to stay on island time!:laugh:

outlaw 03-24-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 1203219)
incorrect....a lsv must meet certain criteria to obtain a license plate which includes a VIN among other things like 3 point seat belts,safety windshield etc etc

No 3 point seat belt required. Florida allows inspections of modified golf carts to qualify for a LSV "vin". Been there done that.

red tail 03-24-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1203228)
No 3 point seat belt required. Florida allows inspections of modified golf carts to qualify for a LSV "vin". Been there done that.

I stand corrected, I assumed since my tomberlin has all the aforementioned safety items I figured all lsv's had them. I guess the moral of the story is if you want street legal go with tomberlin!!!

justjim 03-24-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1203146)
While I do't agree with LSVs going 40 mph, I don't like the idea that a vehicle that's only capable of going 25 is allowed to drive on roads where the speed limit is 35.

The law should be changed one way or the other. If LSVs can do 35, then they should be allowed to. But they should also have all of the safety equipment necessary such a four wheel brakes that are necessary to stop the vehicle at that speed. I've seen golf cart with plates and
Street Legal stickers on them that don't have a solid windshield or wipers. As far as I know, they should be declared to be street legal.
As far a people's concerns about them tipping over when swerving or being struck by a vehicle weighing ten times their weight, how is that any different from a motorcycle? Should we ban motorcycles because if they get hit by a ten ton truck they are in trouble.
I say let the LSVs go 35 or 40 but also make sure that they are equipped in every way to go that speed.
But we shouldn't be allowing vehicles that can only go 25 on streets where the speed limit is 35.

Good post. I agree street legal golf carts should be allowed to go 35 mph as they are dangerous to themselves and others at 25 mph.

joldnol 03-24-2016 12:40 PM

Sumter Co could pick up some serious coin just patrolling Hillsborough and Pinellas. I get passed by carts all the time when I'm doing 19.5 mph and I have difficulty catching some carts when I'm in my car. and I'm going 2 or 3 over the speed limit.

UpNorth 03-24-2016 02:02 PM

My guess is that most of these hot-rodding modified non LSV golf carts are gas engines. When going 20 mph in my electric cart, I can hear these run up from behind and pass me at 20+ mph. Must be easy to defeat the governor on a gas cart. Probably trickier to re-program an electric cart. It is illegal to own a standard cart in Florida that can exceed 20 mph. Get in an accident and you could be in for some financial damage, even if you weren't exceeding the 20mph speed limit.


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