Originally Posted by karostay (Post 899760)

I wasn't really speeding just eased over the 65 limit traffic was clear and yes I looked in all directions before rolling into the intersection..What's the problem I'm a safe driver. Officer

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 899719)

LOL...just in violation of the statute! ;)

Originally Posted by karostay (Post 899760)

I wasn't really speeding just eased over the 65 limit traffic was clear and yes I looked in all directions before rolling into the intersection..What's the problem I'm a safe driver. Officer

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899767)

Yes, technically in violation of the statute. Yes, I violate the letter of the law. But as I said, it would be impossible and unreasonable for LE to enforce every single law to the absolute letter of the law. What they do and what they should do is deal with situations that endanger the lives and safety of the public.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899769)

Please give me real life examples where people that you know have ben pulled over for exceeding the speed limit by one or two mph or for rolling through a stop sign when there is no other traffic within miles.

If you can name some, I would bet that the people who were pulled over have either been driving erratically or they are "well known to local authorities" and LE was simply looking for an excuse to pull them over. The police don't want to be wasting their time on silly little "technical" violations.

Originally Posted by Rags123 (Post 899771)

Not trying to stir the pot, but as I read this, I am reminded of the few posts I have read on this very board alluding to other laws other than stopping at stop signs criticizing law enforcement for not enforcing the law and being selective in doing so.

I suppose it has to do with the law that WE want to violate or think is anal.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899774)

I don't know many reasonable people that think that it's prudent or reasonable for police to enforce every single minor violation. Like I said, I think that the line is if you do something that creates a danger or threatens the safety of the general public. The other cases are when police are given orders by a city or town to start clamping down either because there have been some incidents at a certain location or the municipality decides they need to raise some funds.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899592)

I'm not arguing the letter of the law. What I'm saying is that in some cases reasonable people can do things that don't follow the letter of the law, but don't harm anyone and don't put anyone in danger. It's not just stop signs. How many of you have driven a few miles per hour over the speed limit. Do you think that everyone going 33 in a 30 mph zone should be stopped and ticketed? Some here would say yes. In fact some people might suggest that you turn yourself in and explain to the police what you did and insist that they give you a ticket. Is that reasonable?

There are many instances where the letter of the law is not followed and nothing is done about it because to take action, would be completely unreasonable. Obviously, a driver that completely blows though a stop sign or causes and accident after a rolling stop is being unreasonable, irresponsible, unsafe and causing a danger to the public.

You can post all of the laws you want and you can talk all you want about counting three seconds. To me some people can get a bit anal about these kinds of things. Some would have us believe that a driver that can see a half mile in all directions 20 yards before an intersection and slows down to 5 mph before proceeding cautiously is somehow presenting a danger to the public. To me, some people get a bit anal about some of these things.

I think that we have people in the world who think that it's their job to run around nitpicking everyone's actions and then discussing it. If little things like this bother you, I feel sorry for you. That's simply too much stress for me to deal with. I see people doing things all the time that could cause accidents if not for other drivers being alert. Slowly rolling through stop signs where it is clear that there is no traffic is not one of them.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899776)

I wonder how many people here would be in favor of raising taxes so that we could increase the size of the police force by ten fold so that they could sit on streets and ticket every single car that exceed the speed limit by 1 mph or people who roll through a stop sign at 2 mph.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899776)

I wonder how many people here would be in favor of raising taxes so that we could increase the size of the police force by ten fold so that they could sit on streets and ticket every single car that exceed the speed limit by 1 mph or people who roll through a stop sign at 2 mph.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 899780)

Doc: forgive me for intervening but I spent my entire career in insurance and can tell you that just the people who claimed" I rolled through because there was no one around for miles" in the same breath also say he came out of nowhere". Ergo the reason for stop signs and stop lights.

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 899827)

Why hire more police when any law enforcement community can simply run 'target campaigns' such as the 'click it or ticket' campaigns or the DUI checkpoints that are run every weekend/holiday here in NJ?

Some folks actually get the message! Seat belt usage in NJ has been increasing annnually with more than 90% of drivers here being belted in! Those who don't get the message and get stopped get what they deserve.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 899592)

I'm not arguing the letter of the law. What I'm saying is that in some cases reasonable people can do things that don't follow the letter of the law, but don't harm anyone and don't put anyone in danger. It's not just stop signs. How many of you have driven a few miles per hour over the speed limit. Do you think that everyone going 33 in a 30 mph zone should be stopped and ticketed? Some here would say yes. In fact some people might suggest that you turn yourself in and explain to the police what you did and insist that they give you a ticket. Is that reasonable?

There are many instances where the letter of the law is not followed and nothing is done about it because to take action, would be completely unreasonable. Obviously, a driver that completely blows though a stop sign or causes and accident after a rolling stop is being unreasonable, irresponsible, unsafe and causing a danger to the public.

You can post all of the laws you want and you can talk all you want about counting three seconds. To me some people can get a bit anal about these kinds of things. Some would have us believe that a driver that can see a half mile in all directions 20 yards before an intersection and slows down to 5 mph before proceeding cautiously is somehow presenting a danger to the public. To me, some people get a bit anal about some of these things.

I think that we have people in the world who think that it's their job to run around nitpicking everyone's actions and then discussing it. If little things like this bother you, I feel sorry for you. That's simply too much stress for me to deal with. I see people doing things all the time that could cause accidents if not for other drivers being alert. Slowly rolling through stop signs where it is clear that there is no traffic is not one of them.