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notlongnow 01-27-2013 10:03 AM

It is a good thing that bikes don't poop, could you imagine?

Barefoot 01-27-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notlongnow (Post 616045)
It is a good thing that bikes don't poop, could you imagine?

Definitely deserves a best post award.:highfive:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-27-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 615698)
cyclists have the right to ride their bicycles where ever they want. The can chose to do it safely or die proving they had their rights against a two to three ton car.

First of all, I don't think that cyclists can ride where ever they want. There are definitely restrictions. They are not allowed, for example, on major highways such as I-75. I'm not sure what the law is regarding bicycles on 441/27 or 466. Sections of Morse have a "golf cart / bicycle" lane where other sections have multi modal paths. I know that it is mandatory for golf carts (unless they are street legal) to operate only in these areas. I don't know what the law is pertaining to bicycles.

Even if it is legal for cyclists to ride in these area, the problem is that if they make a mistake on a busy road and get themselves injured or killed, the driver of the car is going to almost always be blamed. In addition to the legal problems that this will certainly cause, the driver will also be haunted for the rest of their life. I ride my bike quite a bit in the Villages. Mostly I stay on the very quiet roads of my own little neighborhood so that I am not in danger of being involved with a car. On the occasions that I did venture bit further I always made sure that I stay in the golf cart only areas.

cquick 01-27-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Down Sized (Post 615594)
In my opinion that bridge by Sumter Landing is the worst area to ride any bicycle of all the villages that I've found so for. If I go across the cart path it backs up all the golf carts because It is so narrow they cannot pass. If I use the sidewalk on the bridge which is what I usually try to do and someone is walking then that creates a problem. Having said all that I decided the safest place for me was using the Street to cross the bridge. If someone has a better idea I would be glad to hear it.

Actually that bridge is very poorly designed all around. Not good for walkers, bicyclers, cars or golf carts......

Chazz 01-27-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cquick (Post 616118)
Actually that bridge is very poorly designed all around. Not good for walkers, bicyclers, cars or golf carts......

I agree, but I don't know what can be done, from a practical point of view.

CFrance 01-27-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 616012)
Thank you for posting that section, CFrance

However, we must remember that the SPEED LIMIT is the absolute maximum one may travel under ideal conditions, whereas the section refers to "normal speed of traffic".

Also, the section does say "ride within a single lane" not "ride in single file". Since motorists must give a cyclist 3' of clearance, passing even a single cyclist in the same lane is inadvisable on many roads.

Actic Fox, wouldn't the law hold true regardless? As in, if everyone is reduced to traveling 25 in a 35 due to road conditions, and the cyclists can't go 25, they should not ride two abreast?

As far as "normal speed of traffic," if everyone is going 25 in a 20, and the cyclists can go 20, do you think the law means they can ride two abreast or more in a lane? They would be obeying the law and everyone else not.
(It could still cause road rage in certain people, though.)

I uphold cyclists' right to be on the road. I also think there are stupid people doing selfish, arrogant things both in a car and on a bike. Hopefully no one gets hurt.

ohiogolf 01-27-2013 11:26 AM

I just got in from a long bike ride in the villages and read this stream of emails. I rode 20 miles on the road, not the inter modal paths; I wore a "zoot suit" of fluorescent green;and, finally, I rode on four lane Morse and BV Drives. Sounds like I committed three unpardonable sins and need to turn in my Villages ID and move back to Ohio. BTW I stopped at each guard shack in the visitors lane and was happily greeted by each guard who opened the gate for me. They obviously have not gotten the message on my violations.

Please folks, not very biker is evil just like not every dog walker, cart driver or roundabout driver is evil. We are Villagers who sit at the table with you at club meetings, are your neighbors down the street, and are dancing next to you at the town squares.

CFrance 01-27-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by notlongnow (Post 616045)
It is a good thing that bikes don't poop, could you imagine?

Now that's just funny!

CFrance 01-27-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiogolf (Post 616155)
I just got in from a long bike ride in the villages and read this stream of emails. I rode 20 miles on the road, not the inter modal paths; I wore a "zoot suit" of fluorescent green;and, finally, I rode on four lane Morse and BV Drives. Sounds like I committed three unpardonable sins and need to turn in my Villages ID and move back to Ohio. BTW I stopped at each guard shack in the visitors lane and was happily greeted by each guard who opened the gate for me. They obviously have not gotten the message on my violations.

Please folks, not very biker is evil just like not every dog walker, cart driver or roundabout driver is evil. We are Villagers who sit at the table with you at club meetings, are your neighbors down the street, and are dancing next to you at the town squares.

I am happy for the "zoot suits." Bring 'em on! They are very visible to drivers.

BobnBev 01-27-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alemorkam (Post 616010)
Here is a question. was at the stop sign in sumter landing by movie theater.
over twenty bikes were at the stop sign. They ALL went in order leaving the cars to wait for them ALL. shouldn't they each stop and go one by one and alternate with cars leaving the stop sign in other directions.? seen this times before.

I thought that intersection was controlled by a flashing red traffic signal.

Let the 20 go. What's the big deal. Better they are in front of you anyways. Don't sweat the small stuff. Life's too short as it is.

coffeebean 01-27-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gocubsgo (Post 615633)
I saw a group of 12 out this morning, all wearing matching little zoot suits and riding in 3's down 441...blocking traffic in back of them, refusing to go into a single line and allowing people to pass. They were completely blocking the right lane and snarling traffic for at least a half mile. Hatred of cyclists? Yeah, when they act like this!!

That sounds like they should have been ticketed by the police. That just does not sound safe nor legal to me. I'm not a cyclist so I may not know all the rules of the road when it comes to that sport, however.

Arctic Fox 01-27-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 616151)
Actic Fox, wouldn't the law hold true regardless? As in, if everyone is reduced to traveling 25 in a 35 due to road conditions, and the cyclists can't go 25, they should not ride two abreast?

As far as "normal speed of traffic," if everyone is going 25 in a 20, and the cyclists can go 20, do you think the law means they can ride two abreast or more in a lane? They would be obeying the law and everyone else not.

I certainly agree with your thinking, CFrance, that it is safer to cycle in single file on a major road - I was just pointing out that the Section did not specify that.

And so many motorists - not just in TV - see a speed limit sign and get annoyed that not everyone is travelling right at that maximum. There are many reasons for going slower - road or weather conditions, looking for a turning, approaching a junction or roundabout - yet many people consider it mandatory to always drive as fast as legally allowed, or faster.

Mikeod 01-27-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazz (Post 616132)
I agree, but I don't know what can be done, from a practical point of view.

Actually, nothing will be done. Discussions about the bridge regarding the width of the cart lanes has occurred many times before with the VCDD and Ms. Tutt was emphatic that the bridge cannot and will not be altered. The sidewalks have to be the width they are due to access laws for disabilities. To widen the entire span is cost prohibitive. If all vehicles observed the posted 10mph limit on the path, it wouldn't be as difficult to cross.

coffeebean 01-27-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tzangrilli (Post 615856)
What's an incumbent bike?

The bicyclist rides the bike in a recumbent position.

Recumbent bicycle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

coffeebean 01-27-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by notlongnow (Post 616045)
It is a good thing that bikes don't poop, could you imagine?

Too funny. Glad I was finished with my coffee.


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