I don't know how you guys survive down there..so far away from civilization...:pray:

Everglades is a are recreation center, not a town square.

From my home in Fenney it's mapped at 5.7 miles to Paddock Square, even less if you know the shortcut, not all that far to Publix and all the restaurants in that area.

Music at the Town Squares every night of the year (weather permitting) was promised when we first bought in The Villages. The ability to listen and dance to live music and enjoy Happy Hour drinks is a great reason to want a town square. I know it’s not for everyone which is probably why you don’t need a Town Square.

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Just wondering how many nights a week you go dancing at the squares?

No surprise since there is a Publix just up Morse on 44. I suspect a Winn Dixie will anchor Magnolia Plaza.

Correct, brain fart on my end, meant Brownwood.

Unfortunately, the OP did nothing more than provide another thread for the southern expansion bashing that never seems to end. We bought south of 44 knowing full well there was no cart connectivity, no restaurants nearby, and no grocery store yet. I don't consider a car trip to Brownwood or to the Lake Deaton Publix to be that much of an inconvenience. I also understand that smart businesses are not going to build and open up based on future potential. They need the right demographic and population to start making a profit from day 1. Am I a little disappointed that they built a parking lot at Magnolia, put up a wall, and then stopped, yes - but I assume there is good reason and am willing to wait. Am I a little disappointed that connectivity was advertised, not rumored, but advertised to be completed by January of 2020 but the turnpike bridge is still, well, sitting on the side of the turnpike? Yes, a little, but I assume there is good reason and am willing to wait. What I'm more disappointed in is the lack of information and transparency about why these things are what they are. It only fuels the rumor mill to be so hush-hush about it. Most of us are grown ups - just let us know the good reasons for these things - we'll be disappointed, still, but most will understand. I've heard rumors about why Magnolia Plaza is stalled, or about why the turnpike bridge is delayed. They may be true, as they seemed logical to me, or they may not be true. A little honesty and transparency goes a long way with reasonable people. For months I heard the bridges wouldn't be open until well after January, but all I saw was progress being made toward that goal. It wasn't until I saw a recent VMail announcing connectivity in Spring of 2020 that I actually heard from TV themselves that the rumors were true. However, the announcement was not made with any acknowledgement that the timeline was different than what was previously announced - it was just stated as if that had been the plan all along. Someone asked earlier - what are your plans to do something about it? Me, nothing. Like I said, I can wait. I just don't think it's unreasonable to communicate some facts about what's going on and why things are the way they are. We don't need all the inside info or glimpses into the closely guarded trade secrets - just enough so that it's more understandable.

I find it shameful that you (villageidiots) and your neighbors,have to come on here nearly every day and defend why you live south of CR44.
At every opportunity or created opportunity the bashers come out. Many of them don't live in that area so why do they have these negative comments to offer?
Just what does the bashing accomplish?

Thanks but I don't feel I am defending or have to defend my decisions. I don't expect or need to change other's opinions in order to justify my own. Just putting them out there just as the bashers are doing with their own. There are many that don't think we should be happy down here, but we are. Then there are all of us that are happy down here and think everyone else should be as well. They are not likely to change my mind just as I'm not likely to change their's.

It’s not envy, it’s disgust.

What exactly is it that you find disgusting with The Villages?

So we should assume the no one living there uses The Villages disgusting shopping and entertainment???

We go often enough to know there are regulars who frequent the town squares. We don’t dance but love to listen to the live music.

it's such a short distance to kristine way, it wasn't a deal-breaker then and it isn't now. some people are never happy, i suppose

Kieth DB has a valid observation. Yes, The Villages has gone through many stages of development, and often growing pains. The Historic Side and Spanish Springs were young, and people did go to Ocala/Leesburg for Medical Care. But there was beautiful architecture, restaurants and amenities. When Gary Morse developed Sumter Landing area he hired developers from Disney to lay out the area. There are numerous Country Clubs with restaurants and large regional centers with lots of golf courses and rec centers. Sumter Landing itself was built in the middle of watermelon fields, then home sales developed around it.
We are now in the third and fourth generation of “The Family” as developers. Where is the town Square, that we can get to by golf cart, with unique architecture? Is it even on the drawing boards? Where are the Country Clubs with restaurants? Where are the restaurants and grocery stores?
It seems disingenuous to run trolley tours through Sumter Landing and Brownwood, and promise prospective homeowners this “Lifestyle”. Generation Three needs to follow Gary Morse’s development plan.....amenities first then home sales will follow.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Always try to enjoy.

Are you a village resident? Which village?

Here is a recent email from Publix.

Good morning,

This email is in response to your recent inquiry regarding a proposed Publix in Magnolia Plaza and Trailwinds Shopping Center in Sumter County. I can now confirm that we have a signed lease for Magnolia Plaza. The construction for Magnolia Plaza is projected to begin in late spring of 2020, in “perfect world” conditions, it takes approximately 9 months to build a Publix from the ground up. Construction on Trailwinds Village has started and is projected to be complete in the fall of 2020. The sites are being developed by two different developers.

For more new store information, please be sure to check our website by following the link provided: New Store Openings | Newsroom | About Publix | Publix Super Markets

We highly value comments from our customers and I would like to thank you for taking time to express your interest in seeing a Publix in your area and hope to see you at both openings. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further comments or questions.

Thank you,
Paula Cameron
Publix Real Estate Department
Assistant to Jon Adams and Sarah Wright
(863) 688-7407 ext 52621
paula.cameron@publix.com

Many of the threads are started by people who haven’t moved yet to The Villages and are asking us about location. I don’t consider these threads “bashing” threads. Folks are more than willing to inform prospective buyers of the positives and negatives of the different areas of our beautiful community. It is up to these prospective buyers to take the information and come on down and check it all out for themselves.

Confusing rumors with facts.....:BigApplause:

Thank you for posting. Unfortunately due to EC regulations Brits cannot see the link as this (and many other US websites) are not available for viewing outside the US. Can you take a screen print and publish it. THANK YOU.

This was posted on Nextdoor. Maybe will give you the information you are looking for.

Here is the response from Publix Real Estate Department:

Good morning,

This email is in response to your recent inquiry regarding a proposed Publix in Magnolia Plaza and Trailwinds Shopping Center in Sumter County. I can now confirm that we have a signed lease for Magnolia Plaza. The construction for Magnolia Plaza is projected to begin in late spring of 2020, in “perfect world” conditions, it takes approximately 9 months to build a Publix from the ground up. Construction on Trailwinds Village has started and is projected to be complete in the fall of 2020. The sites are being developed by two different developers.

For more new store information, please be sure to check our website by following the link provided: New Store Openings | Newsroom | About Publix | Publix Super Markets

We highly value comments from our customers and I would like to thank you for taking time to express your interest in seeing a Publix in your area and hope to see you at both openings. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further comments or questions.

Thank you,
Paula Cameron
Publix Real Estate Department
Assistant to Jon Adams and Sarah Wright
(863) 688-7407 ext 52621
paula.cameron@publix.com

Last night, NYE I was in the bleachers at Brownwood and watching the Hooligans perform. The crowd was huge. We arrived at 4:20 and all the folding chairs had been set up in advance, which is normal the last couple of years for bigger bands. Every chair had already been taken, so we got in the front row of the bleachers, and we had our cushions.

We sat next to a couple and he mentioned he lives south of 44 in one of the new Villages. I asked if he was a golfer and he said, that was one of the reasons he moved here. He plays the executives there, I think he said there was five and he owns a golf cart. He became friends with some of the Ambassadors at the executives and found they all live north and play as a group every week. He hooked with them, and so once a week he drives his car to a championship course and gets a golf cart for free and plays with that group. He didn't seem to mind the little inconvenience.

106 posts and climbing....wow :)

Soon, but not yet!
 

To ALL the Villagers who post on TOTV, THANK YOU! My wife and I are future Villagers and plan to sell our home in California and have it ready to sell in April. Best scenario, we could be ready to buy in TV in early summer. We spent 5 days there (Lifestlye Visit) back in late October, fell in love with everything there! Our Villages real estate agent is terrific. She showed us pre-owed and new homes there. She also explained about buyin a parcel there as well. We are open to all three options but I have a feeling we will end up South of 44 and this is why I am making this post now. Besides what I have learned from YouTube (Thank You goldwingnut and Jerry & Linda) and I have gathered so much useful info here on TOTV. I mostly follow posts related to living South of 44 but also have looked at posts about best restaurants, pros/cons of gas vs electric golf carts, and treating (filter vs softener) the water that comes into your home. Because of all this information that you have shared here, we will be better prepared the day we move in. Thank YOU again! I downloaded TV app during out visit and use it EVERY DAY here scouring the app for new homes. We really like The Woodside (Designer Home) Floor Plan. I see that many are spread out among the new Villages South of 44. I’ve even made a list of the Woodsides and keeping track of when they sell. Because I have a feeling that most, if not all, will sell before we arrive there ready to buy, I am most interested in any info of new building going on there. Looking at the map on the app, I can guess at areas where new construction would take place. For example, in TV of DeSoto, there looks like an “L” shaped piece of land there that is left undeveloped. Also, land West of Fenney, close to The Grey Fox golf course. And a last piece of property in Marsh Bend that is in the west side of that Village. We would like to stay away noise (turn pike & RC’s) and power lines. I’ve read that both TV’s of Bradford and Chitty Chatty will break ground soon? Any info on those areas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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We should band together to get a couple of things dune that we was told would be finished !!!!!!!!

I found this link on Aldi website. If you scroll the map down to Marsh Bend area and zoom in it shows EVERY single lot and the house number, overlay that to the Villages website and you'll have a good idea of what's coming up in the next 3 -6 months.

Aldi in Wildwood, 5643 Seven Mile Drive, telephone number and opening times

Thank you cmj1210! So it appears that construction of the Publix Store MIGHT START in late spring this year. The nine month time frame to build would seem reasonable. So “late spring” to start with completion in the SPRING of 2021 appears to be the likely timeframe. Big disappointment! We moved to Marsh Bend in August of 2019 with the idea that Magnolia Plaza would be opening in early spring, 2020, with a grocery store, some sort of gas station/golf cart store, and a restaurant or two with a few misc stores to follow.
So now the turnpike bridge becomes an even bigger issue. Without it, any villager south of 44 cannot get to the rest of The Villages via golf cart, which is much of what The Villages is about. We are happy to be here in The Villages and would not change it. But The Villages needs to make a formal statement on the REALISTIC estimated COMPLETION DATE of the Publix store, as well as the other stores and businesses in Magnolia Plaza, and the COMPLETION date for the turnpike bridge. By the way, to all the Villagers north of 44, there are hundreds, soon to be thousands, of Villages homes south of 44. With upcoming new Villages (DeLuna, Bradford, Chittagong Chatty, and possibly others) this year, there will be even more, and will quickly double in a year or two. “The Villages” urgently needs to give residents of “Southern Oaks” a truthful statement as to when the turnpike bridge will be completed, as well as an opening date for the Magnolia Plaza stores!

No they don't. Not sure where you came from but did every municipality or developer give you firm dates on everything they did and meet every date? Reality is they want it completed as quickly as you do, it means revenue to them.

So as you put up $$$$ I am sure many will follow. $$$ that’s how you will get what you want.

However every business plan is exactly that, to ensure profits. Until there is enough people to ensure profits, no business will build.

We have seen many changes, since 2007. I just don’t remember anyone so unhappy about how things progressed.

I gotta admit I’m surprised. When we got official word from the developer of the dates for the shopping center and bridges I believed them. They have a proven track record of hitting their dates.

I guess FDOT wasn’t as easy to work with on bridges as they had planned. And with Winn Dixie’s parent company reorganizing it gave the developer less options on finding reputable grocers willing to lease in Magnolia Plaza. And perhaps grocers in this area, such as Publix, had to do a bit more research before committing.

Expectations met = 99.37625%

Expectations met on the date "promised"/interpreted = who cares.

Publix is just waiting for critical mass so that when they finally open up there will be consistent lines at the check out. Who can blame them, it’s sound business practice.

Ronnie Clark just posted this photo on TV facebook page. The future is near.

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e5&oe=5ED0FE19

Looks like progress, but when I have looked to the other side of the 44 bridge there has been no work there yet.

Look across the bridge in the photo, appears the base layer of a cart path and a high retaining wall have been installed. Paving should be next, however beyond that you're probably right, the bridge to nowhere.

The bridge is going somewhere, to a pile of sand that would scare the crap out of most if you drove there past sunset, still a construction zone. How could developer condone driving a cart in a construction zone.