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JMintzer 08-15-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snbrafford (Post 2245662)
I think only service animals (and I question the need for some of those)in grocery stores, restaurants, or any stores. I don't hate dogs but don't want to be around their dander and fleas and have to worry about the dog's temperament.

After reading this (and the other) thread, I'm worried about other PEOPLE'S temperament...

Lea N 08-15-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

I am currently without a pet, unfortunately. So when I get to see other people's dogs it makes my day. However, I believe that we have to respect those who have allergies to dogs and keep dogs home. The exception being a medical service dog for those who have medical needs or seeing eye dogs.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2245711)
And why cant you leave your feces spewing, flea invested, butt licking mongrel at home…EVERY DAY?

Looks like someone has lost their sense of humor...

Lea N 08-15-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

These incredible dogs provide a much needed service for those who truly need a medical service dog.

Guardian Angels Medical Service Dog's provide medical service dog's to individuals, with military and first responders being priority. They do not charge the recipient for the dog. It costs approximately $30K to teach one of these dogs. Typically they use German Shepherds, some (not all) of these dogs are rescue dogs that were hours away from being euthanized.

The work that these dogs do dramatically change the lives of people for the better. These dogs are well trained and will not go to the bathroom on the floor in stores or restaurants. When their person is at a restaurant they are so quiet and still that many people don't even know they are there.

Here is a link to Guardian Angels Medical Service Dogs. Guardian Angels Medical Service Dogs

Elaine Dickinson 08-15-2023 03:20 PM

The Food and Drug Administration's Food Guide lays down the law: with few exceptions, live animals of any kind are not permitted on the premises of a grocery store, a restaurant or other food establishment. The prohibition applies to dogs, cats, birds and other animals. Only service animals that are specifically trained to aid a person with disabilities are permitted within a store. Service animals are not permitted to sit or ride in shopping carts.

Stu4206 08-15-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Service dogs only!

Shimpy 08-15-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2245010)
Of course they should be allowed, accompanied by a person, on a leash, or well trained, or in a cart.


Dogs don't use toilet paper so where ever they set does the job for them including the grocery cart. This also includes your couch, bed, carpet etc.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 2245850)
Dogs don't use toilet paper so where ever they set does the job for them including the grocery cart. This also includes your couch, bed, carpet etc.

Just over half of Americans wash their hands after using the bathroom, so there's that...

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245487)
A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245612)
I can't find it, but maybe YOU can tell us, when was this NEW meaning of SERVICE Aminals was put into practice?

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245779)
Last updated: February 28, 2020

Thank you, I should have known (:ohdear: Feb. 2020 :rolleyes:)...

Vermilion Villager 08-15-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

All true examples of Service Dogs.
However.......the stupid little lunchbox size dog yipping and yapping in the shopping cart is not!!!:rant-rave:

Vermilion Villager 08-15-2023 05:31 PM

It's a Crime in Minnesota to misrepresent a Service Animal in public
 
Minnesota recently passed a law making it a misdemeaner to falsly represent your animal as a service animal. Several organizations, including Can-Do-Canines of New Hope helped write the legislation. We need this here in FL.

Sec. 609.833 MN Statutes

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-15-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2245881)
Minnesota recently passed a law making it a misdemeaner to falsly represent your animal as a service animal. Several organizations, including Can-Do-Canines of New Hope helped write the legislation. We need this here in FL.

Sec. 609.833 MN Statutes

That statute doesn't include a little tidbit that makes the entire statute a moot point:

It is against federal law to ask someone for proof that their animal is a service animal. And furthermore, there is no "official" service animal certification, federally authorized training or license. Anyone can train an animal to perform a service for them, and by law, that animal is, by definition, a service animal.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-15-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245612)
I can't find it, but maybe YOU can tell us, when was this NEW meaning] of SERVICE Animals was put into practice?

It was put into practice some time before this thread started. That's really all that matters. Anyone could have looked it up between then and now, and would've seen the information right there.

Also I fixed your post - you misspelled animals.

Velvet 08-15-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aulicino (Post 2245545)
No, I have had dogs my whole life and have never brought them shopping with me. It disgusts me to see a dog sitting in a shopping cart where my merchandise would be. Just ignorant owners.

I agree, Instacart, Amazon, Walmart etc all deliver. And there has to be a way of officially proving that a dog is a service dog - a pass like handicap parking pass etc to be produced on request like a license to bring an animal where otherwise it would not be permitted.
Please don’t say it is my private business what’s wrong with me, the license would not have to say that you have epilepsy or something, or whatever service dogs help with, just that this dog is required to assist you. On the license maybe a photo of the dog. Like a handicap pass it should not be reproducible.

Fenster 08-15-2023 10:49 PM

Definitely NOT
 
Gross.


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