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Laker14 08-16-2023 05:50 AM

Some dogs should be allowed, others not. However, some people will bring their dogs even if they shouldn't be allowed, and in fact, fall outside of the description of dogs that are allowed.
I like dogs. I don't love seeing them in grocery stores. But, I don't let it bother me.
The fact is, that fresh fruit you are looking to buy, that came from South America, or Southern California, has spent some time in a warehouse with all kinds of vermin crawling all over it, so you should wash it carefully when you get home anyway. That dog in Aisle 3 is the least of your worries if your concern is food contamination .

Eg_cruz 08-16-2023 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

100% no. Went to Publix on 466 and there were 3 dogs in the store, it’s 96 out and all I think about was how selfish the owners were.
Leave dogs at home were they are cool and safe.

miharris 08-16-2023 06:23 AM

REAL service dogs, yes. Pets, absolutely not! In fact, I actually think pets are prohibited by federal law (FDA) law, AND it is against the law misrepresent your pet as a service animal.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-16-2023 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by miharris (Post 2245993)
REAL service dogs, yes. Pets, absolutely not! In fact, I actually think pets are prohibited by federal law (FDA) law, AND it is against the law misrepresent your pet as a service animal.

Unfortunately it's also against the law to require proof that someone's animal is a service animal. You can ask someone if their animal is a service animal. You can ask what kinds of services that animal is trained to perform. You canNOT ask them what it's trained to perform "for the person" - or whether that is THEIR service animal. The law is incredibly nitpicky and specific. And clear. If the person says yes, then you are required to accept their answer.

HOWEVER

If that dog misbehaves in any way, you still reserve the right to order its handler to leave, and take the dog with them.

Four on the floor (no carts, strollers, carried in arms).
On a short, non-retractable leash.
Heeled at all times, out of the way of other customers.
No sniffing at the food or other customers.
No one other than the handler should be permitted to touch the dog (if you say "sure you can pet him!" then he's not there as a service animal).

CoachKandSportsguy 08-16-2023 06:37 AM

NO!

JGibson 08-16-2023 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245632)
So then, you're saying it's OK to pile poop on top of poop... :coolsmiley:

Huh? What does that even mean?

I don't own a dog but it doesn't bother me if a well behaved dog is in a store. Some times the dogs are better behaved than the humans in the store.

I'm more concerned with our food being made in laboratories and the filthy restaurant kitchens, you can add Waffle House to the long list of restaurants that have received violations for bad food handling recently in TV.

I lost track of how many times IHOP has been closed due to rodent infestation.

I love Publix and if no dogs is their policy so be it, I'm not losing sleep over it but I would still be more concerned with what so called food we're putting in our bodies.

Oh, just checking are cats still allowed in the store in a baby carriage. lol.

Bilyclub 08-16-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2246023)
Huh? What does that even mean?

I don't own a dog but it doesn't bother me if a well behaved dog is in a store. Some times the dogs are better behaved than the humans in the store.

I'm more concerned with our food being made in laboratories and the filthy restaurant kitchens, you can add Waffle House to the long list of restaurants that have received violations for bad food handling recently in TV.

I lost track of how many times IHOP has been closed due to rodent infestation.

I love Publix and if no dogs is their policy so be it, I'm not losing sleep over it but I would still be more concerned with what so called food we're putting in our bodies.

Oh, just checking are cats still allowed in the store in a baby carriage. lol.



It's not just a policy. It's Florida law.
Time To Call Law Enforcement? More Dogs In Publix, Despite Sign - BocaNewsNow.com

OhioBuckeye 08-16-2023 08:07 AM

Good point!

Velvet 08-16-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2246004)
Unfortunately it's also against the law to require proof that someone's animal is a service animal. You can ask someone if their animal is a service animal. You can ask what kinds of services that animal is trained to perform. You canNOT ask them what it's trained to perform "for the person" - or whether that is THEIR service animal. The law is incredibly nitpicky and specific. And clear. If the person says yes, then you are required to accept their answer.

HOWEVER

If that dog misbehaves in any way, you still reserve the right to order its handler to leave, and take the dog with them.

Four on the floor (no carts, strollers, carried in arms).
On a short, non-retractable leash.
Heeled at all times, out of the way of other customers.
No sniffing at the food or other customers.
No one other than the handler should be permitted to touch the dog (if you say "sure you can pet him!" then he's not there as a service animal).

It’s against the law to require proof if an animal is a service animal makes as much sense as asking a person for their driver’s license when they drove questionably. Because there is so much abuse of it right now, that law needs to be modified.

fdpaq0580 08-16-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2245972)
Some dogs should be allowed, others not. However, some people will bring their dogs even if they shouldn't be allowed, and in fact, fall outside of the description of dogs that are allowed.
I like dogs. I don't love seeing them in grocery stores. But, I don't let it bother me.
The fact is, that fresh fruit you are looking to buy, that came from South America, or Southern California, has spent some time in a warehouse with all kinds of vermin crawling all over it, so you should wash it carefully when you get home anyway. That dog in Aisle 3 is the least of your worries if your concern is food contamination .

Thanks for the visual. I may never eat again.

Laker14 08-16-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246146)
Thanks for the visual. I may never eat again.

it is what it is. It won't kill you. I've also worked in the restaurant biz. That won't kill you either, but if you think it's a sterile atmosphere, well....best you just keep on thinking that.

And, in the "it is what it is" department, there is this...

"The FDA allows up to 30 insect fragments and one rodent hair to be detected in every 100 grams of peanut butter. A standard jar of peanut butter is often between 300 to 500 grams.

This means that a single jar of peanut butter can have around five rodent hairs and 150 insect fragments and still pass inspection. " (source: The Daily Mail")

Charm1 08-16-2023 10:24 AM

No and that's why I no longer shop at Winn Dixie on 441.
 
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2245022)
On a leash they can wiz on the shelf, in the cart hopefully the owner will step in the puddle instead. Yes have witnessed both issues more I care to count.

Those who have to take their dogs in the grocery are rarely well trained.

Correct! I saw this about six months ago at Winn Dixie as a woman had two dogs inside the cart and they were making a big mess. I mentioned it to a clerk, who said they couldn't do anything about it (even though there is a sign on the door that pets are not allowed). I asked for a manager and told him and he said there was nothing they could do, except that they would be sanitizing the cart after the lady left.
I watched and she left the store with the dogs still in the cart, put them in her car and then the cart was added to the others in the parking lot. No sanitization was going to be done. :MOJE_whot:

I'm Popeye! 08-16-2023 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245885)
That statute doesn't include a little tidbit that makes the entire statute a moot point:

It is against federal law to ask someone for proof that their animal is a service animal. And furthermore, there is no "official" service animal certification, federally authorized training or license. Anyone can train an animal to perform a service for them, and by law, that animal is, by definition, a service animal.

Lately, Its an upside-down country, but most :0000000000luvmyhors like it that way...

I'm Popeye! 08-16-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245889)
It was put into practice some time before this thread started. That's really all that matters. Anyone could have looked it up between then and now, and would've seen the information right there.

Also, I fixed your post - you misspelled animals.

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