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tophcfa 10-26-2021 01:26 PM

Nfw

frose 10-26-2021 02:51 PM

give me my gas power all day long.. the battery tools do not stand up to real work.

Vikingjunior 10-26-2021 02:59 PM

Glad my neighbors and I have desert lawns.

Although I would be more concerned with the emission-less golf carts.

Opengineer150 10-26-2021 04:07 PM

Start you own landscaping company and only battery powered equipment..

RICH1 10-26-2021 04:24 PM

evidently lots of Plaque Buildup on this posting! California should stay in California.. this progresive stuff must stop soon

kkingston57 10-26-2021 05:05 PM

Your idea is desirable, but not practical for the gardeners until they come up with better batteries.

On the other side, gardeners should be thinking long term. The 2 cycle engines do not last very long and are cantankerous. 4 cycles are more reliable but heavier.

Topspinmo 10-26-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2021794)
The developer needs to build a segregated village for all the whining, crying, moaning, groaning, woe is me OLD goats to live in with a 20' wall around it and an armed guard at the entrance to keep out all the riff raff. No lawn mowers allowed, no noisy cars or motorcycles, no dogs, no construction contractors with noisy power tools, and no wind chimes. Did I miss anything?
Apparently some of you lived in Utopia before coming here, so why did you leave? Can old people do anything besides complain?

They already have that along 466. But, members only.

Topspinmo 10-26-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2021814)
Sorry, but loud pipes on a motorcycle is just plain self-defense and common sense when living around such dangerous OLD drivers that can't see or hear. My old Harley used to set off car alarms on a narrow residential street, so I used to have to coast down the street, when going home. BUT, the loud noise of me driving in a blind spot while passing probably saved my life hundreds of times. If folks find a few seconds of unpleasant noise on occasion unbearable, perhaps they should just remove their hearing aids. :1rotfl:


It is unfortunate that people are living longer than ever today. They seem to have over lived their comfort zone(?) and now must be so bored that they have to spend their last miserable days complaining about every trivial mote of irritation.

On my street, just about every day of the week I will hear lawn equipment for about 15mins during the day. Most of the time, I do not even notice it. Twice a week, I hear the trash pickup trucks in the morning. Maybe we should demand that they quit picking up because they might disturb someone's sleep? No one complains about their trash being removed, but they sure complain about someone ELSE'S lawn being mowed.


Lets be clear. The neighborhood can be noisy EVERYday, during the day. There are night noise restrictions. Sleep at night and you won't have to be concerned about someone doing their job to support their families in your neighborhood during the day. I would rather hear a bit a daily noise than worry about someone SILENTLY sneaking around, breaking into homes and stealing. But, that is another subject.

BUT, the loud noise of me driving in a blind spot while passing probably saved my life hundreds of times LOL.

If so, hundreds on rice rocket drivers would be lining the streets. HD get pass cause the nerd crowd that makes the rules now ride them thinking there cool. There loud obnoxious turtles in Motorcycle world.

LateBoomer 10-26-2021 07:18 PM

What's next? Replace the police here with social workers? Decriminalization of shoplifting? Wait, I have it! Mandatory CRT seminars for all residents!!

Luggage 10-27-2021 04:51 AM

Bull sh-t China banned 2 cylinder engines 20 years ago . I know I was there.

Luggage 10-27-2021 04:52 AM

"Many" !!!

Luggage 10-27-2021 04:54 AM

It's funny that some people complain about the noise and that landscapers work indifferent days of the week. And several other Senior Communities we have grass cutting done by the h o a and they really enjoy walk one day a week with us stopping the noise the other 6 days a week. You guys have a very simple solution I'm having your raise your way pass a rule that all streets be done only 1 day a week depending on the village and the street and then your gardeners will all have to do with the same day of the week of course you'll still have people complaining why are they coming for me in the morning to 8 at night on every different house and for that I have no solution

thevillages2013 10-27-2021 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2021670)
I read this morning that in a half hour, the pollutants spewed by the average two-cycle engine in a leaf blower equals the pollution from a Ford F-150 pickup—over a 3,600 mile drive! California has recently banned gas-powered leaf blowers, edgers, trimmers, lawnmowers, etc. use by lawn care companies because the pollution they put out is equal to the pollution from ALL the cars in California. It seems that battery-powered equipment, recharged at night, has reached the level where by having multiple batteries, crews can work all day without recharging. (All of my power tools are now battery-powered, including my Sawsall and my full-size circular saw and my big drill.) Battery-powered tools are also much quieter. For homeowners in The Villages with lawns, an electric mower with a cord may make more sense.

Should the appropriate governing units here follow the lead in California and require lawn crews to use battery-powered tools?

Another solution would be instead of trying to change the regulations here one could just move to an area where the regulations suit them. I’m getting good at this

DaleDivine 10-27-2021 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2021727)
I don’t want our state doing anything California does.

Well said...
:bigbow::bigbow:

DaleDivine 10-27-2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2021961)
Bull sh-t China banned 2 cylinder engines 20 years ago . I know I was there.

Maybe you mean 2 cycle engines? Probably lots of 2 cylinder engines that are 4 cycle still in China...
:ho:

La lamy 10-27-2021 05:41 AM

I'm all for what is less polluting, noise wise and air.

John-US 10-27-2021 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2021670)
I read this morning that in a half hour, the pollutants spewed by the average two-cycle engine in a leaf blower equals the pollution from a Ford F-150 pickup—over a 3,600 mile drive! California has recently banned gas-powered leaf blowers, edgers, trimmers, lawnmowers, etc. use by lawn care companies because the pollution they put out is equal to the pollution from ALL the cars in California. It seems that battery-powered equipment, recharged at night, has reached the level where by having multiple batteries, crews can work all day without recharging. (All of my power tools are now battery-powered, including my Sawsall and my full-size circular saw and my big drill.) Battery-powered tools are also much quieter. For homeowners in The Villages with lawns, an electric mower with a cord may make more sense.

Should the appropriate governing units here follow the lead in California and require lawn crews to use battery-powered tools?

AND Golf Cars! Does anyone else smell those cart fumes?

DaleDivine 10-27-2021 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2021964)
It's funny that some people complain about the noise and that landscapers work indifferent days of the week. And several other Senior Communities we have grass cutting done by the h o a and they really enjoy walk one day a week with us stopping the noise the other 6 days a week. You guys have a very simple solution I'm having your raise your way pass a rule that all streets be done only 1 day a week depending on the village and the street and then your gardeners will all have to do with the same day of the week of course you'll still have people complaining why are they coming for me in the morning to 8 at night on every different house and for that I have no solution

Yep, our mowing company is a son and father operation with over 70 customers.
I seriously don't think they could do that many lawns and a very good job that they do only one day a week...

:ohdear::ohdear:

DaleDivine 10-27-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2021982)
I'm all for what is less polluting, noise wise and air.

We moved here from the Hampton Roads area of Virginia.
We lived directly under the flight line of Langley Air Force. The jets flew all hours of the day and night. :boom::boom:(THE SOUND OF FREEDOM). Lawn mowers are so much quieter that we hardly even notice them.
Our lawn service cuts our grass Monday mornings. My wife likes to sleep late. She says it only takes them about 15 minutes to cut our CYV grass so she just rolls over and goes back to sleep when they're finished.
:coolsmiley::clap2::ho:

noslices1 10-27-2021 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2021670)
I read this morning that in a half hour, the pollutants spewed by the average two-cycle engine in a leaf blower equals the pollution from a Ford F-150 pickup—over a 3,600 mile drive! California has recently banned gas-powered leaf blowers, edgers, trimmers, lawnmowers, etc. use by lawn care companies because the pollution they put out is equal to the pollution from ALL the cars in California. It seems that battery-powered equipment, recharged at night, has reached the level where by having multiple batteries, crews can work all day without recharging. (All of my power tools are now battery-powered, including my Sawsall and my full-size circular saw and my big drill.) Battery-powered tools are also much quieter. For homeowners in The Villages with lawns, an electric mower with a cord may make more sense.

Should the appropriate governing units here follow the lead in California and require lawn crews to use battery-powered tools?

Maybe we should all go back to “Hand clippers” and “rakes” and “brooms”

DARFAP 10-27-2021 06:09 AM

Stop the madness

MDLNB 10-27-2021 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2021982)
I'm all for what is less polluting, noise wise and air.


I agree! We need to get rid of all the flatulence because it is noisy and smelly and pollutes the air much more than lawn equipment. :coolsmiley:

Bill1701 10-27-2021 06:15 AM

NO!

MDLNB 10-27-2021 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2021914)
BUT, the loud noise of me driving in a blind spot while passing probably saved my life hundreds of times LOL.

If so, hundreds on rice rocket drivers would be lining the streets. HD get pass cause the nerd crowd that makes the rules now ride them thinking there cool. There loud obnoxious turtles in Motorcycle world.


At least "nerds" probably know how to spell "their" or use spell check. I've never heard of HD owners being called "nerds" before, but one learns something new every single day.:coolsmiley:

Lonnieme2 10-27-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2021721)
IMHO until China and India come to the table and are on board with emission controls, my buying an electric lawn mower is like shoveling sand against the tide with a soup spoon

Well said!

fgsJr 10-27-2021 06:22 AM

Gas powered lawn equipment have been banned in Naples
 
Naples Florida made gas powered lawn equipment illegal within the city. They gave contractors several months to prepare for this so they could purchase batteries and charging equipment. With the current supply chain problems this might be problematic, but if we give them plenty of time we could do the same thing. I would strongly be in favor of such a move as much for the pollution at for the noise…

Buzz Steinhardt 10-27-2021 06:23 AM

Did they also give up their gas powered golf carts?

MandoMan 10-27-2021 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2021721)
IMHO until China and India come to the table and are on board with emission controls, my buying an electric lawn mower is like shoveling sand against the tide with a soup spoon

But this would directly affect the air quality and noise pollution on your street, despite whatever China does. So many people complain about the noise. Dropping from 110 decibels (that will cause hearing loss for users without protection) to 80 decibels (normal speaking volume) is a huge difference. Yes, the crews would need many batteries over the course of the day and would need to recharge them at night.

MandoMan 10-27-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2021727)
I don’t want our state doing anything California does.

So, no McDonalds, no vineyards, no freeways, no Disney World, no Sea World, no In-n-Out Burger, no orange groves, no beaches, no retirement communities, etc.?

MandoMan 10-27-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2021819)
The Answer to your question, No!
But you can help yourself to this if you like to keep the noise down and save the world....

I used a lawnmower without an engine like this for years when I was a boy. Properly adjusted and sharpened and with a flat lawn, they worked great and were no harder to use than a heavy gas mower that has to be manhandled around corners. They weren’t great on edges near gardens. I still remember the pleasant SHHHH sound they made and the wonderful smell of the just-cut grass.

biker1 10-27-2021 06:51 AM

Well, no, not exactly. They banned gas powered leaf blowers and specified a maximum sound level (in dB) for electric leaf blowers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgsJr (Post 2022014)
Naples Florida made gas powered lawn equipment illegal within the city. They gave contractors several months to prepare for this so they could purchase batteries and charging equipment. With the current supply chain problems this might be problematic, but if we give them plenty of time we could do the same thing. I would strongly be in favor of such a move as much for the pollution at for the noise…


irishwonone 10-27-2021 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2021670)
I read this morning that in a half hour, the pollutants spewed by the average two-cycle engine in a leaf blower equals the pollution from a Ford F-150 pickup—over a 3,600 mile drive! California has recently banned gas-powered leaf blowers, edgers, trimmers, lawnmowers, etc. use by lawn care companies because the pollution they put out is equal to the pollution from ALL the cars in California. It seems that battery-powered equipment, recharged at night, has reached the level where by having multiple batteries, crews can work all day without recharging. (All of my power tools are now battery-powered, including my Sawsall and my full-size circular saw and my big drill.) Battery-powered tools are also much quieter. For homeowners in The Villages with lawns, an electric mower with a cord may make more sense.

Should the appropriate governing units here follow the lead in California and require lawn crews to use battery-powered tools?

Let’s hope not.

Mikee1 10-27-2021 07:26 AM

If you really like what CA is doing, I suggest you move there. Do not CA our FL.
Thanks



Quote:

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2021670)
I read this morning that in a half hour, the pollutants spewed by the average two-cycle engine in a leaf blower equals the pollution from a Ford F-150 pickup—over a 3,600 mile drive! California has recently banned gas-powered leaf blowers, edgers, trimmers, lawnmowers, etc. use by lawn care companies because the pollution they put out is equal to the pollution from ALL the cars in California. It seems that battery-powered equipment, recharged at night, has reached the level where by having multiple batteries, crews can work all day without recharging. (All of my power tools are now battery-powered, including my Sawsall and my full-size circular saw and my big drill.) Battery-powered tools are also much quieter. For homeowners in The Villages with lawns, an electric mower with a cord may make more sense.

Should the appropriate governing units here follow the lead in California and require lawn crews to use battery-powered tools?


Bogie Shooter 10-27-2021 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2021775)
Thank you for bringing that up. I plan on getting a jacket from Amazon that will say it is my support goat. Think that will work?

Is the jacket for you or the goat?:1rotfl:

NoMo50 10-27-2021 07:37 AM

Follow California? Sure. Just like all those rats who thought following the Pied Piper was a great idea.

chuckk281 10-27-2021 07:37 AM

Just what I want to do is follow California. If you believe that a leaf blower gives off the same amount of pollutants in 1/2 hour as a 3600 mile truck trip, you are really smoking what California is selling.

TNLAKEPANDA 10-27-2021 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2021733)
Logic, facts and reality simply do not influence many posters..

Thank you …. :bigbow:

Lindaws 10-27-2021 07:51 AM

Absolutely NOT. More important things to worry about. Too much big gov.

mspicer1234 10-27-2021 07:56 AM

Don’t California or New York my Florida

Vermilion Villager 10-27-2021 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2021704)
While I love the idea of battery powered (aka quiet) lawn equipment, there are practical items to consider:
1. I would guess the average lawn trimmer, and weed blower used for 8 to 10 hours a day would go through several battery packs per day. Storage, recharging, replacing bad or weak packs, etc. will probably be a big problem.
2. Lawn mowers, both large and small would have similar problems, except these batteries are much larger, and harder to change out, more down time, etc.

I am guessing a hybrid model could work here, smaller items could go to battery, and improved mufflers, and SOME additional pollution controls for the larger equipment could be a workable solution. This could be handled with the contracts for landscaping without a lot of new laws, HOWEVER there will also probably be an associated cost increase.

Yes...because you know...we all operate our lawn trimmer, and weed blower for 8 to 10 hours a day.


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