I do believe he was referring to the "commercial" landscapers, who most certainly work 8-10 hrs a day...

Plus, there is a difference between a "Tinker" and a "Thinker"...

Maybe new glasses are in order?

We shouldn’t follow CA, the economic impact would be horrendous, most of the people working here are barely getting by with the current inflation and requirements to change would put the out of business, not mention a huge increase in HOA to transition. Technology will change things as as cost decreases and effectiveness increases. This how we transitioned from horses to cars and electric lights from kerosene.

Teaching new technology to some Villagers yields the same results as teaching an old dog new tricks:ohdear:

There is no HOA. There is a CDD maintenance fee, that shows up on your Nov property tax bill, for the maintenance of the common areas. Yes, a move to electric landscaping equipment would almost certainly increase costs. Would the increase be "huge"? I have no idea since I don't know how big "huge" is. I don't see this happening anytime soon.

It makes more since for one to move to California.

Move to California then.

Geez...could we PLEASE reply with several sentence paragraph form, instead of one LONG and rambling paragraph. Advil time!!

Pass a law like California ?????? ARE YOU CRAZY????
You do know that California is the land of fruits and nuts, don't you?

All this BS about going green is too far left for me.
I'm quite proud of my "carbon footprint".

If it wasn't for carbon, the nothing would exist.

Or maybe they could use the correct word: "they're".

If you'll provide me your address, I'll graciously come over and idle my Harley outside your home!! Geez...get over it!!:boxing2:

here's a thought: Let's not be California. the place is a mess and people and businesses are fleeing the State. I like my Florida, and my TV, just as it is, thanks. If you're really wrapped up in environmental issues, so-called, suggest that Florida may not be the place for you.

I used one for 15 years on Bermuda and Centipede grass. For those grasses it works great, with very little effort. They are not workable with Zoysia and St. Augustine grasses, unless your yard is the size of a postage stamp.

Ohiobuckeye
 

I say it’s up to the individual or who can talk the consumer into what they can sell. Everything I have is battery. The only thing I have that’s gas operated is lawn mower. I say if you go to everything battery use one brand other wise you have 10 to 15 different kinds of batteries sitting around & 3 or 4 different kinds of chargers. Yes I like battery operated things, except cars, but that’s another subject!

Dunno. It didn't work with Spike (my support monitor lizard). But then again, some airlines just don't understand...

My lawn guy died, and thinking both of my waistline and the money paid out for lawn maintenance I decided I'd to it myself. I considered battery powered stuff but a trip to Lowe's ended in buying a weed whacker, hedge trimmer, and mower--all 110 volt. Also a 100' extension cord. All items work wonderfully and at a noise level much less than gas-operated, though the mower sounds like my wife's Cuisinart on steroids.

Total for all three plus the cord: about $350.00. And the waistline is looking better too.

Best to relocate to California where there are plenty of environmental rules and taxes to ruin the quality of life. Keep Florida free.

California 2?
 

ABSOLUTELY! The radicals and wackos control California now. There's nothing wrong with being ecologically responsible, but trying to eliminate that last 10% of pollutants in the air is NOT responsible - it's insane.

Battery Landscape Equipment
 

It would also resolve the noise pollution that these devices generate.

Carl Sagan tells us that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your statement seems to cry out for such evidence. Perhaps you have a link to what you read?


The closest I could find was a story in the Washington Post

It included links to two studies. One in Edmunds from 2011 which specifically tested leaf blower vs Ford 150 Raptor trucks and included this:

"The hydrocarbon emissions from a half-hour of yard work with the two-stroke leaf blower are about the same as a 3,900-mile drive from Texas to Alaska in a Raptor"

But, being an automotive website they did what seems to be a misuse of data. They measured non methane hydrocarbon output. The EPA does not list that group of compounds as greenhouse gases. The two cycle engine emitted 300 times the amount as the truck. CO [carbon monoxide] output of the blower was 23 times that of the truck. Only by using the non methane figures did they reach their estimate. This is dishonest IMO. Non methane hydrocarbons are a pollutant in haze and smog but they are nothing like CO2 or methane when it come to risk to the planet. And guess what Edmunds did not measure... CO2 emissions. That's why the headline hydrocarbon output. Carbon Dioxide is not a hydrocarbon but it is the major greenhouse gas produced by engines.

The second study from Sweden references a potentially carcinogenic compound in both lawn mower and auto exhaust and suggests that adding catalytic converters to lawn mowers would be helpful. It also states that using a 4 HP push mower, the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons output of one hour of use is the same as 100 miles of driving a car, again not looking at CO2

What I could find does support the statement the OP made when only looking at some of the engine output but not looking at all the important chemicals in engine exhaust.

Now having said that, 2 cycle engines are terrible for our air. The stuff they spew is a pollutant especially creating smog. Leaf blowers additionally kick dust, molds etc that are on the ground back into the air, a problem not lessened by going to batteries.

Here are links worth reading IMO:

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default...leaned_ADA.pdf This one shows the data used to inform the decision in California. A summary would include small off-road engines such as those found in gas-powered leaf blowers are a larger source of smog-forming emissions than the state’s 14.4 million passenger cars.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...er-ban/583210/ an opinion piece, a bit short on science about how the ban on gas leaf blowers came to be in Washington DC

And steam engines had to stop for water every hundred miles or so, which slowed them down and created need for water stations all along the route.

Too bad there hasn't been more done to adapt the Stirling engine to some modern-day uses. The technology has been around for well over 200 years: it was used in English mines to pump water as far back as 1816.

Yes. We built the country that you now enjoy

Comparing Florida to California regarding air, noise and water pollution is like comparing oranges to apples. However, if Florida keeps growing the difference could be less and less. I’m not too old to remember California was “the place to be” until it wasn’t… For us Florida may be the place to be until it wasn’t for us or our grandchildren. Time will tell.

FYI. California did NOT ban all gas mowers and other equipment used by commercial firms. We are a long way off on such equipment for the lawn industry. For the homeowner YES this does work. Take this with a grain of salt from someone who is in the business for over 30-years. Yes, Cal. has some tuff regulations in some towns as to the hours of use for such equipment on the books.

I use all battery operated tools and a Honda Lawn mower but/AND I will never follow California's lead... I've a brain. I would pay extra for the manufacturers to add catalytic converters to their tools to assist in reducing pollution.

No. And we are not California. If the laws of California appeal to anyone, I think that is where they should live. I came to Florida because I like Florida, the people, the laws, the amenities, etc. I didn't go to California because I don't like their laws, a lot of their people, and more.

No my friend told me anything battery operated is a communist plot to take our freedom.

Please explain kissing lanais .

The back of your house is so close to the back of another home that they are "kissing"

Maybe California is following your lead? Seems like you despise the state but agree with their recognition that mower/trimmers etc are a problem. Even California has not gone to catalytic converters, so you're ahead of them in the clean air department.

Don't want the government telling me what to do or use....we've had enough !

The air in our country is much better than it was 70 years ago. I remember when auto pollution and coal burning furnaces and water heaters made the air so dense you could hardly see through it during the winter months. Our air is much better now, regardless of what the tree huggers suggest. I have no problem with subtle changes, but I see no reason for radical and costly changes based on someone's whim. Some folks have way too much time on their hands. I always marveled at how some folks could spend so much time demonstrating when others had to budget their time between working a job and home maintenance. But, I digress.

When a mommy lanai and a daddy lanai love each other...

And that is how you get patios!

those who do their own lawn maint. MAY wish to use batt pwr'd. commercial maintainers can't

I would suggest that the reason why our air now is not so dense is because the tree huggers began the battle 70 years ago. You admit that you now benefit from decades of activism which was opposed by coal and power companies and steel and more. They said that the pollution controls were too costly and radical and the tree huggers had too much time on their hands. Same for our fouled water, our use of DDT etc. I am so proud of those who fought for cleaner air, water, food, highways, etc.

All that just got moved out of the country and still polluting. So, as long as it not in our backyard it’s big benefit right? Well long as you’re not up wind from Mexico and not in jet stream of China.

There still slow loud obnoxious turd of motorcycle world.

Did you know that goats pollute more than flying a Boeing jet from NYC to Singapore!

Two words - Energy Density.
Physical Reality does not care about your feelings/indoctrination.