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billethkid 09-15-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1114485)
To keep your comparisons consistent try dividing the cost by the number of users of the MMPS, it might be a bit higher. And based on your logic the flowers are goners.... Ya just cannot pick the numbers you want.

I have only used the numbers pertaining to the subjects in discussion (excluding the flowers!).

Has/had nothing to do with what I want(ed)!

Walter123 09-15-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1114485)
To keep your comparisons consistent try dividing the cost by the number of users of the MMPS, it might be a bit higher. And based on your logic the flowers are goners.... Ya just cannot pick the numbers you want.

Flowers make sense and benefit everyone that drive through The Villages. Side striping the cart paths only benefits those that probably shouldn't be driving anyway. Oh, and saying that side striping benefits anyone is a stretch. IMHO

TheVillageChicken 09-15-2015 02:38 PM

Here is the way I think the guys with the purse strings look at it. If they spend the money, the pro-stripers will pipe down and the anti-stripers will eventually forget the issue ever existed. If they don't spend the money, the pro-stripers will never let this die and will continue to be a vocal minority pain-in-the-ass hindering the progress on other important issues such as who to name the next rec center after.

JoMar 09-15-2015 03:04 PM

What is the record number of posts on any thread? Are we trying to beat it?

virgind 09-15-2015 03:16 PM

So Mr Chicken I guess the minority rules. Just like our government. (not meant to be political)

Chi-Town 09-15-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1114533)
What is the record number of posts on any thread? Are we trying to beat it?

Don't know the record number but the coyote thread has a narrow lead over the striping.

Mleeja 09-15-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1114533)
What is the record number of posts on any thread? Are we trying to beat it?

Not even close. Go look at the threads on the tree cutting.....

Mleeja 09-15-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1114545)
So Mr Chicken I guess the minority rules. Just like our government. (not meant to be political)

The number of posters have seemed to be split fairly evenly. The meetings
I have attended on this topic the pro and cons were failry even. A survey conducted by the POA showed that a majority of the respondents supported some type of striping. For all the "against" folks, don't quote the poll conduceted by the on-line news source. Any poll where you can vote multiple times is not valid. The majority of the objectors seem to be concerned about cost.

Just a purely personal opinion, if the POA did not support striping it would have been a done deal by the districts....

Polar Bear 09-15-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1114511)
..Side striping the cart paths only benefits those that probably shouldn't be driving anyway...

Never ceases to amaze me.

dbussone 09-15-2015 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1114383)
So it is about the money! Are you a softball player? $500,000 to upgrade softball facilities. Your ok with this? This benefits maybe 5% of the population where as striping the paths would improve safety for all Villagers. Maybe there sould be a cost benefit analysis done on all projects. What is the benefit and return on flowers in the roundabouts? As the districts make up their budgets, striping would be a continuing line item, just like flowers.


Why would you do a cost/benefit analysis on a project that has been dismissed by professional consultants whom we have already paid to provide a recommendation? Because some may not like their recommendation does not negate it's appropriateness.

Mleeja 09-15-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1114606)
Why would you do a cost/benefit analysis on a project that has been dismissed by professional consultants whom we have already paid to provide a recommendation? Because some may not like their recommendation does not negate it's appropriateness.

My point in responding to the OP that if limited funds determine which projects get approved then a cost/ benefit analysis should be done on all projects, even the planting of flowers.

dbussone 09-15-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1114623)
My point in responding to the OP that if limited funds determine which projects get approved then a cost/ benefit analysis should be done on all projects, even the planting of flowers.


While I generally concur with that concept, well done cost/benefit studies also cost money to complete.

Mleeja 09-15-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1114628)
While I generally concur with that concept, well done cost/benefit studies also cost money to complete.

As well as a determined hurdle rate and a payback period. However we are not dealing with a commercial enterprise, but a quasi governmental unit and unfortunately, the same rules do not apply. Now back to bashing each other over striping....:boxing2: :)

rogerz 09-15-2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1108794)
Still my question is why is it needed. You cant see the side of the path? Come on people.

Darkness and/or rain creates a visibility issue on curving multi modal path. Oncoming auto headlights adds to problem in some stretches causing golf cart driver to avert eyes. Ability to see something (side stripe, center stripe, reflectors,...), anything that provides a reference point would be useful. Stretch of Buena Vista south of Belvedere is particularly unsafe. Darkness comes early most of year and rain is not infrequent. My eyesight is fine but problem is real.

dbussone 09-15-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1114634)
As well as a determined hurdle rate and a payback period. However we are not dealing with a commercial enterprise, but a quasi governmental unit and unfortunately, the same rules do not apply. Now back to bashing each other over striping....:boxing2: :)


Well done!


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