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billethkid 09-15-2015 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rogerz (Post 1114646)
Darkness and/or rain creates a visibility issue on curving multi modal path. Oncoming auto headlights adds to problem in some stretches causing golf cart driver to avert eyes. Ability to see something (side stripe, center stripe, reflectors,...), anything that provides a reference point would be useful. Stretch of Buena Vista south of Belvedere is particularly unsafe. Darkness comes early most of year and rain is not infrequent. My eyesight is fine but problem is real.
from the study......65 MMP accidents over a 3 year period!

Challenger 09-15-2015 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1114661)
from the study......65 MMP accidents over a 3 year period!
Only 12 at night!!

virgind 09-15-2015 07:53 PM
There comes a point where we should either drive our cars at night or dont drive at night or get new head lights on your cart. One of the above.

scot_atc 09-15-2015 07:58 PM
My impression of the majority of folks I've met in TV is that most would bend over backward to help each other out. There appears to be quite a few on TOTV that wouldn't reach into their coin purse for a nickel if there was no direct benefit for them. I hope you are the minority.

tomwed 09-15-2015 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1114661)
from the study......65 MMP accidents over a 3 year period!
Do you believe that is accurate?
It doesn't make sense.

Callaway Guy 09-15-2015 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1114684)
Only 12 at night!!
Do you, or anyone, know what the cause of those 12 carts accidents at night were attributed to?

rogerz 09-15-2015 09:14 PM
Check engineer study- they chose poor data. Time of year used was summer but they "adjusted" for snowbird season... Time of day was mostly daytime since they used summer data..gets dark earlier in winter. Percentage also based on total number rather a "rate of accidents" during darkness hours vs daytime. Also they gave their opinion "prior to" conducting their study. They were paid $6500 to tell what they already told us for free!!! Tell me what's up with that?

rogerz 09-15-2015 09:19 PM
No it doesn't. Hope this picture is getting clearer for folks!

rogerz 09-15-2015 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1114695)
There comes a point where we should either drive our cars at night or dont drive at night or get new head lights on your cart. One of the above.
If we use that logic then we shouldn't have any striping on automobile roads...we should do away with lighting also.... That argument full of holes.

rogerz 09-15-2015 10:06 PM
Excellent comments... Let's focus on what can improve safety (for all MMP users) instead using opportunity to stake out positions.

Walter123 09-16-2015 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rogerz (Post 1114742)
If we use that logic then we shouldn't have any striping on automobile roads...we should do away with lighting also.... That argument full of holes.
Another ridiculous comparison between 20 mph golf carts and 70 mph cars.

outlaw 09-16-2015 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 1114795)
Another ridiculous comparison between 20 mph golf carts and 70 mph cars.
70 mph cars on BV? Hmmm.

PennBF 09-16-2015 07:28 AM
Just Idea
 
There is a company who sells small lights for the front of the golf cart and also small lights on the side. The side lights work well in lighting up the curbs and also in the tunnels. These are excellent in helping when driving at night. With the headlights and side lights (where you step into the cart) the curbs are pretty lit to help at night. They are not cheap but if you have a real concern driving at night these are a good way to off set some of that worry?:bowdown:

outlaw 09-16-2015 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rogerz (Post 1114738)
Check engineer study- they chose poor data. Time of year used was summer but they "adjusted" for snowbird season... Time of day was mostly daytime since they used summer data..gets dark earlier in winter. Percentage also based on total number rather a "rate of accidents" during darkness hours vs daytime. Also they gave their opinion "prior to" conducting their study. They were paid $6500 to tell what they already told us for free!!! Tell me what's up with that?
You hit the nail on the head. But get ready to be attacked and accused of slander for calling a spade a spade.

Walter123 09-16-2015 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1114799)
70 mph cars on BV? Hmmm.
Who said anything about BV? Guess you "need" striping too.


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