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dewilson58 10-09-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2377016)
I know this isn't going to change anyone's mind or behavior, but this Chicken Little "the sky is falling" stuff is getting tedious.

No one is/was worried about the sky falling............it's the wind, rising water and flying debris.

With the current projected path(s)...........our neighbors are going to get hammered pretty good.
Thoughts are with all of them.

jimjamuser 10-09-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2377260)
Most interesting FL Hurricane fact:

There were no hurricanes making landfall in FL between October 2005 and September 2016.

That’s 11 years. Weather be random and a trait of randomness is clusters, like galaxies / solar systems in the vast universe

Since the whole Earth got WARMER in the last 5 years and the oceans rose significantly that puts us today and in the future in a completely different Climate situation. Strange that more people are COMING TO Florida at the same time that the threat of Hurricanes is getting greater.

jimjamuser 10-09-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2377127)
Considering the thousands of new residents we have in The Villages and for whom this is likely their first hurricane season, I'm glad their willing to ask their questions and raise their concerns to those of us who have been through this for many years.

Yes, it will be very rainy and very windy, but The Villages has been developed to mitigate flooding concerns and our houses built to the best hurricane standards in the country. And even during Irma, except for the historic district, lights mostly just flickered and power never went out for any period of time.

If I'm going to have to deal with hurricanes (I've lived in earthquake, tornado and blizzard sections of the country), this is probably the best place in the US to deal with them.

Not sure how "Florida could be a good place to deal with hurricanes". Hurricanes start in the tropics and travel to the NORTH making Florida an obvious target for hurricanes. The Gulf and the Atlantic have record warm water this year (and will continue that way into the future).The oceans are RISING at an INCREASING rate. From the air - Florida looks like lakes everywhere and Florida is flat with no mountain ranges to block hurricanes. In the past north central Florida has not had much hurricane damage, but if world populations keep increasing and the CO2 and methane from coal and oil burning keeps increasing, then likely, hurricane intensity will increase for the future.

BrianL99 10-09-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2377425)
No one is/was worried about the sky falling............it's the wind, rising water and flying debris.

With the current projected path(s)...........our neighbors are going to get hammered pretty good.
Thoughts are with all of them.

I just got off the phone with a friend in Lakewood Ranch. If you blow up the latest hurricane path map, the "line" goes exactly through his home. That said, Lakewood Ranch is about 10-12 miles inland.

If you're in the path of a hurricane, it pays to be inland, have a recently constructed home and quality drainage system. The Villages has all 3.

I wouldn't want to be living within a couple of miles of the coast, from Ft Myers all the way north to Tarpon Springs. Longboat Key to Clearwater would be very scary place to be this week.

Joe C. 10-09-2024 11:27 AM

My gas tanks are full. My furniture is off the lanai and inside the house. The potted plants are in the garage. I have bottled water, a gas stove, toilet paper, paper towels, food, and batteries and a radio. Now it's time to get a good book and sit down and have a good read. BTW, I notice that there are still lots of birds and ducks around the pond, so I don't expect this "terrible wind" that the television talking heads are espousing. Last Saturday, I told my wife that we wouldn't get a direct hit, because the eye would pass way south of us. So, I'm prepped, but have no worries. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.:wave:

LianneMigiano 10-09-2024 11:28 AM

Drive from St. Pete took 6.5 hours
 
Just bumped into an evacuating young couple, with a baby, from St. Petersburg that just spent 6.5 hours on the highway to get here. Bet they needed gasoline - and maybe a tranquilizer - when they arrived!

Grinchie 10-09-2024 11:44 AM

You are presuming their home is as well-built and as prepared for a hurricane, as is your home. The intensity of this storm is frightening. (I rode out Harvey comfortably, which was a cat 4, but was prepared & in a much stronger, larger, hurricane-prepped house.)

mikeycereal 10-09-2024 11:48 AM

Just checked again and the projected north edge of the cone has moved further south according to windy.com. Orlando is now near the north edge for the passing of Milton and at this rate they may end up out of the cone. Looking better for them than yesterday when they were projected to be well inside of it.

Blueblaze 10-09-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Grinchie (Post 2377465)
You are presuming their home is as well-built and as prepared for a hurricane, as is your home. The intensity of this storm is frightening. (I rode out Harvey comfortably, which was a cat 4, but was prepared & in a much stronger, larger, hurricane-prepped house.)

I rode out Harvey (and three other cat-5 hurricanes) in a 20-year-old brick/frame home built to no hurricane standard whatsoever, the same distance from the ocean as The Villages. The eye of Rita went right over my house.

But it was a week before I could get out of my driveway from Harvey, and two weeks before we had power again (4 weeks w/Rita). The floodwaters never entered my house (barely), even though I measured 36" of rain over two days. Afterwards, I helped friends muck out the remains of their homes who were also not in any flood plain. Harvey was the worst storm I ever saw, and not because of the wind.

But you know what was different about the four hurricanes I lived through in Houston?

My insurance company never doubled my premiums in Cypress just because Galveston was flattened. And nobody ever threatened to cancel me because my roof was 10yrs old.

eyc234 10-09-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2377016)
14 threads currently running about Milton.

Get out of town. Board up the windows. Fill your bathtub with water. Fill your clothes dryer with ice. Hoard toilet paper.

As we say up north, "is this your first time on skates"?

Is this your first hurricane? Can't be, if you've lived in TV or Florida for more than a year or two. Where did you live before coming to Florida? Weather hasn't affected your life at some point?

New England has been hit with 71 Hurricanes or Tropical Storms, since I was born in 1953. One a year for me.

There have been 18 direct Hurricane hits in New England, since 1953. One every 4 years.

Close to 70 times in the last 70 years, Boston has been hit with a snow storm, dumping over 24" of snow in a 24 hour period. Worcester has been hit over 100 times in the last 70 years.

Doesn't the Midwest ever get bad weather?

Over the last 30 years, an average of 48 people per year, die from Hurricanes in the USA (136 if you include floods). Statistically, a non-event. (Weather Related Fatality and Injury Statistics)

The Villages is nearly 50 miles from the coast and probably has the most sophisticated drainage system in the USA.

Over-react much? Don't drive your golf cart through a flooded tunnel, you'll be fine. Friday is supposed to be 80 degrees and mostly sunny.

I know this isn't going to change anyone's mind or behavior, but this Chicken Little "the sky is falling" stuff is getting tedious.

The truth is that no one knows. There are more scenarios and possibilities than can be documented.

Normal 10-09-2024 02:21 PM

Not the worst hurricane
 
Weather needs to be respected.

I don’t want to make light of any storm, it can be dangerous in many situations and circumstances. But things could be much worse. Hurricanes have reached an excess of 200 mph sustained. The worst ever recorded was back in 1780. The bark was actually stripped off many of the trees and more than 20,000 died. Most stone forts were destroyed and metal cannons were thrown more than 100 feet. Not some, but actually every home on the island of Barbados was destroyed.

With all things considered, we have it good. When another storm like that comes through, I hope to not be around. A true storm of the century.

A good read on the Great Hurricane

Great Hurricane of 1780 | encyclopedia article by TheFreeDictionary

Red Rose 10-09-2024 02:25 PM

Don’t fill the Clothes Dryer with ice; fill the Clothes Washer with ice.

DAVES 10-09-2024 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2377016)
14 threads currently running about Milton.

Get out of town. Board up the windows. Fill your bathtub with water. Fill your clothes dryer with ice. Hoard toilet paper.

As we say up north, "is this your first time on skates"?

Is this your first hurricane? Can't be, if you've lived in TV or Florida for more than a year or two. Where did you live before coming to Florida? Weather hasn't affected your life at some point?

New England has been hit with 71 Hurricanes or Tropical Storms, since I was born in 1953. One a year for me.

There have been 18 direct Hurricane hits in New England, since 1953. One every 4 years.

Close to 70 times in the last 70 years, Boston has been hit with a snow storm, dumping over 24" of snow in a 24 hour period. Worcester has been hit over 100 times in the last 70 years.

Doesn't the Midwest ever get bad weather?

Over the last 30 years, an average of 48 people per year, die from Hurricanes in the USA (136 if you include floods). Statistically, a non-event. (Weather Related Fatality and Injury Statistics)

The Villages is nearly 50 miles from the coast and probably has the most sophisticated drainage system in the USA.

Over-react much? Don't drive your golf cart through a flooded tunnel, you'll be fine. Friday is supposed to be 80 degrees and mostly sunny.

I know this isn't going to change anyone's mind or behavior, but this Chicken Little "the sky is falling" stuff is getting tedious.

Boy scout motto a boy scout is always prepared.
I still have my coleman lanterns and stove. Also mantles and replacement parts. Last time I needed them we were living in NY and without power for like five days. It was an adventure.
No TV. Went back to the past. Neighbors got together. Unlike here we had a gas stove.
Amusing had to show wife you can light a gas stove with a match. Oh some neighbors did have matches. Ever try starting a fire rubbing sticks. I've tried but never succeeded.

bowlingal 10-09-2024 02:56 PM

would rather have a hurricane, than an earthquake or tornado or wildfire

DAVES 10-09-2024 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2377492)
Weather needs to be respected.

I don’t want to make light of any storm, it can be dangerous in many situations and circumstances. But things could be much worse. Hurricanes have reached an excess of 200 mph sustained. The worst ever recorded was back in 1780. The bark was actually stripped off many of the trees and more than 20,000 died. Most stone forts were destroyed and metal cannons were thrown more than 100 feet. Not some, but actually every home on the island of Barbados was destroyed.

With all things considered, we have it good. When another storm like that comes through, I hope to not be around. A true storm of the century.

A good read on the Great Hurricane

Great Hurricane of 1780 | encyclopedia article by TheFreeDictionary

HUM. If a cannon lands on my property. It can be traced to the owner-are they liable for damages. Can I keep it? Far as reads. I have a sort of hobby reading old books.
We tend to think about problems. There were always problems Posting, internet, telephone, perhaps have made complaining easier.


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