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Bill14564 12-13-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by USOTR (Post 2393272)
Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine


Here is the Florida Statues.. I suspect if you can small it they are in violation.

Call the local Sherriff Department.

That's a very long statute. Which paragraph speaks to not smoking if your neighbor can smell it?

EDIT to note: Nothing of the sort appears in the PENALTIES section of the statute.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2393275)
Regarding the smell I'd go with a fan over making enemies of neighbors. Bad neighbors can be a constant stress.

Regarding the legality, I was against back when it was a Massachusetts issue. I'm still against it and my reason is simple. People (including my own adult children) are not using it for an occassional party drug but an all day crutch. When I was a teen I smoked it but it was only on a weekend here and there when we were out partying. Nowadays people are smoking morning noon and night. I think that is a problem.

Not arguing against your point but if you change "smoking" to "drinking" the description fits as well. I know this borders on "whataboutism" but do you feel the same about alcohol?

Just in case.... Yes, I do feel the same but I feel both should be legal. We need to demand responsibility not prohibition.

frayedends 12-13-2024 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393293)
Not arguing against your point but if you change "smoking" to "drinking" the description fits as well. I know this borders on "whataboutism" but do you feel the same about alcohol?

Just in case.... Yes, I do feel the same but I feel both should be legal. We need to demand responsibility not prohibition.

It's an interesting analogy. I still drink on the weekends. Most people I know drink occassionally. Sure there are alcoholics. But in my experience the pot smokers are much more likely to smoke all day every day. I realize this is anecdotal based on my experience alone. But every pot smoker I know (and I know a lot more now that it's legal here) smokes every day. I've only known 1 person to be a full blown daily drinking alcoholic that was close to me in my entire life.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2393277)
The idea that gardeners were not permitted to grow their own plants tubed the amendment. There would have been enough support for skunk weed to be legal if it was written in the amendment as a right, and not a special interests win for growing licensed investors.

It was an amendment on freedom with the chains caveat.

As it was explained during the campaign, Florida law requires that a citizen's initiative amendment be limited to a single issue. If an argument can be made that the initiative attempts to change more than one aspect of the constitution then the amendment is disqualified and not allowed on the ballot. This amendment could have made recreational usage legal OR it could have made home growing legal BUT NOT BOTH.

Susan1717 12-13-2024 07:37 AM

Pot is very much legal in florida. It’s a very simple procedure to get a legal pot card, and then go to any of various pot distilleries and purchase your monthly quota. Someone said it’s illegal for recreational use; well how do you determine when someone is smoking because they are enjoying it or because it helps them with whatever their situation. You really don’t need to give any medical problems as a reason to have it and you do an online virtual appointment with a doctor to get the card. The whole thing takes minutes and anyone can get the card.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Susan1717 (Post 2393304)
Pot is very much legal in florida. It’s a very simple procedure to get a legal pot card, and then go to any of various pot distilleries and purchase your monthly quota. Someone said it’s illegal for recreational use; well how do you determine when someone is smoking because they are enjoying it or because it helps them with whatever their situation. You really don’t need to give any medical problems as a reason to have it and you do an online virtual appointment with a doctor to get the card. The whole thing takes minutes and anyone can get the card.

Recreational use is very much NOT legal in Florida. Easy does not mean legal. The law has a list of medical conditions required to obtain a card. If there are online "doctors" who will approve the card without confirming the condition, that still doesn't make it legal.

My conscience will not allow me to lie to get a card. (it has something to do with drugs, my conscience has no problem with 40mph down Morse)

Normal 12-13-2024 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393302)
As it was explained during the campaign, Florida law requires that a citizen's initiative amendment be limited to a single issue. If an argument can be made that the initiative attempts to change more than one aspect of the constitution then the amendment is disqualified and not allowed on the ballot. This amendment could have made recreational usage legal OR it could have made home growing legal BUT NOT BOTH.

It certainly could have been written as a general issue. Cannabis could have just been made legal. The tit for tat of usage, selling, growing, trading, gummies, smoking, etc. could all have just been covered as one legalization of the product. Instead the amendment had stipulations that made smoking it OK, but not growing it. What’s next, you can’t brew your own beer or make your own wine?

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393023)
Has anyone out there figured out a creative way to address the smelly habits of residents who infringe on your home area with their illegal usage of pot?

Pot is legal. Be glad it is not a cigar. Or worse, someone growing portobello mushrooms.

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2393165)
Might as well get use to it pot heads on increase. It’s just too hard to get through day without crutch…:beer3::beer3:

Or go through the day in excruciating nerve pain that can easily be blunted by pot.
Sometimes crutches are a very good thing, like literal crutches are.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2393313)
It certainly could have been written as a general issue. Cannabis could have just been made legal. The tit for tat of usage, selling, growing, trading, gummies, smoking, etc. could all have just been covered as one legalization of the product. Instead the amendment had stipulations that made smoking it OK, but not growing it. What’s next, you can’t brew your own beer or make your own wine?

The amendment said no such thing.

The amendment authorized MMTCs to sell for personal use and the amendment authorized possession of small amounts for personal use.

The closest the amendment came to even mentioning restrictions on who can cultivate is with the language:
The legislature may provide for the licensure of entities that are not Medical Marijuana Treatment Centers to acquire, cultivate, possess, process, transfer, transport, sell, and distribute marijuana products and marijuana accessories for personal use by adults.
This language makes it clear the amendment DOES NOT prohibit growing for personal use but acknowledges that it is up to the legislature to allow it.

I really wish people would try to understand what they are voting for rather than just taking the word of some talking head who was paid to mislead them.

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393033)
Because we have already politely talked to the individuals. It did get a little better for a while but now it seems the stinkers have returned with a vengeance. The users aren’t licensed. We know that from other neighborhood group conversation.

I suspect they are smoking it to block the stink coming from your home

Rocksnap 12-13-2024 08:15 AM

It’s Christmas. Be a great neighbor and get your neighbors a VAPORIZER. Problem solved, no more smell wafting over to you, or anyone else for that matter.
Or at least educate your neighbors about the virtues vaporizers.
FYI- a vaporizer heats up gods plant to extract the good stuff but does not combust it. No burning of the bush means no smell. You can thank me for such awesome advice later.
I find it hard to believe in such a long thread that I’m the first one to come up with such brilliant advice.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2393332)
Or go through the day in excruciating nerve pain that can easily be blunted by pot.
Sometimes crutches are a very good thing, like literal crutches are.

And sometimes people feign a limp in order to ride in a wheelchair and cut to the head of the line at Disney.

Properly diagnosed conditions and properly prescribed marijuana is perfectly legal in Florida. The rest is not legal at all, it is just not being investigated, tracked, or prosecuted.

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2393059)
Trying to change other people's behavior, is a frustrating and often fruitless exercise that will generally leave you more unhappy.

Isn't it amazing just how many people demand others change and refuse to do any changing themselves.

BlackHarley 12-13-2024 08:17 AM

Pot smell sure beats those stinky gasoline golf carts...Oh boy, here we go!

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393339)
And sometimes people feign a limp in order to ride in a wheelchair and cut to the head of the line at Disney.

Properly diagnosed conditions and properly prescribed marijuana is perfectly legal in Florida. The rest is not legal at all, it is just not being investigated, tracked, or prosecuted.

Correct, but why is it right to denigrate those abiding the law?
Crutches are useful and needed by many.

Katrina55 12-13-2024 08:20 AM

It’s legal
 
If you have a medical marijuana card it is legal to smoke on your lanai, some people can not tolerate ingesting cannabis, many people find marijuana helps with serious illness and smoke several times a day ( cancer for example)

CybrSage 12-13-2024 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHarley (Post 2393341)
Pot smell sure beats those stinky gasoline golf carts...Oh boy, here we go!

Especially the ones altered to go faster.

(The pot, pun intended, needed more stirring ;) )

airstreamingypsy 12-13-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2393050)
Totally true. The smell isn’t just an inconvenience, it’s repulsive. The people of Florida have already spoken . It is against the law to use the drug for recreational purposes. If only they made the gummies to taste like the smell.

The people of Florida voted to make it legal recreationally, at least 56% did, but the governor made it so it had to be 60%. Doesn't seem fair, but here were are. It'll probably pass next time, as more and more people realize all the lies that were told in the TV ads. As for smoking, it's crazy to me that people still smoke when you can buy edibles, that's what I do. I don't want to compromise my lungs, haven't smoked since 2019 when Covid hit.

Andyb 12-13-2024 08:39 AM

Some people may be doing cancer treatment or pain management, that pot is extremely effective. Consider the situation carefully before judgement.

Wenham 12-13-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2393275)
Regarding the smell I'd go with a fan over making enemies of neighbors. Bad neighbors can be a constant stress.

Regarding the legality, I was in favor of it back when it was a Massachusetts issue. I'm now against it and my reason is simple. People (including my own adult children) are not using it for an occassional party drug but an all day crutch. When I was a teen I smoked it but it was only on a weekend here and there when we were out partying. Nowadays people are smoking morning noon and night. I think that is a problem.

Until recently I lived my entire 66 years in Massachusetts and I made the mistake of voting in the affirmative for weed legalization. I totally regret that decision. During the warmer months when you drive with your windows down, especially at red lights there is a constant smell of skunk in the air. The police see it, smell it and know about it but are unable to control it because so many people are driving around stoned.With the nice weather in Florida I can only imagine how bad this would be. Between the weed, alcohol, phone, radio and gps how can you find the time to concentrate on driving? Just saying…

GoldenBoy 12-13-2024 08:46 AM

Neighbors
 
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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393023)
Has anyone out there figured out a creative way to address the smelly habits of residents who infringe on your home area with their illegal usage of pot? We don’t want to call the cops and have been polite up to this point but the problem seems to be expanding. What’s a great solution to stopping the smell while keeping law enforcement from arresting the culprits.

It really does seem to be an expanding problem that is coming from several places now here in the Villages. We have smelled it about everywhere.

Let's see what exactly seems to smell with this particular entitled complaint.

I distinctly remember a former neighbor, that after installing a huge pool and bird cage, would host parties that consisted of loud music and worst of all, sing alongs at the top of their drunken lungs.

Or maybe it is the people that would get involved in the "patriotic" flag displays on every federal holiday, my favorite was always the flag displays on Labor Day. My Chihuahua loves the little flags, he used to 'water' as many as he could manage.

The thing about pot is this. Unless you know for sure sure your neighbors are not participants in the Florida Medical Cannabis Program, you need chill out. Participants are covered by the A.D.A. (Americans with Disabilities Act). I would much rather listen to some nice music and smell a little weed, than have to listen to a bunch of drunken chuckle heads screaming out Oh Danny Boy on Cinco De Mayo or whenever all night long.

Just get over yourself.

Suzieque 12-13-2024 09:00 AM

Pot smell
 
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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2393059)
Trying to change other people's behavior, is a frustrating and often fruitless exercise that will generally leave you more unhappy.
What are some things you could do on your side? Enclose your lanai with double pane glass? Move to a house on a corner so there are fewer neighbors and a larger lot?

Maybe put a box or oscillating fan in your lanai blowing towards them?

frayedends 12-13-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy (Post 2393368)
Let's see what exactly seems to smell with this particular entitled complaint.

I distinctly remember a former neighbor, that after installing a huge pool and bird cage, would host parties that consisted of loud music and worst of all, sing alongs at the top of their drunken lungs.

Or maybe it is the people that would get involved in the "patriotic" flag displays on every federal holiday, my favorite was always the flag displays on Labor Day. My Chihuahua loves the little flags, he used to 'water' as many as he could manage.

The thing about pot is this. Unless you know for sure sure your neighbors are not participants in the Florida Medical Cannabis Program, you need chill out. Participants are covered by the A.D.A. (Americans with Disabilities Act). I would much rather listen to some nice music and smell a little weed, than have to listen to a bunch of drunken chuckle heads screaming out Oh Danny Boy on Cinco De Mayo or whenever all night long.

Just get over yourself.

A party now and then isn’t an issue. I can’t imagine why flags on holidays would bother anyone, but again it’s on holidays. But as I mentioned, the pot smokers are smoking all the time and I agree with the op, it stinks. I’d actually prefer cigarette smell. If the op is acting “entitled” perhaps it’s because they should be entitled to enjoy their property without constant stink of weed. That being said I still think putting a small fan out may be the best option.

I would also add that if your dog was allowed in my yard to **** on my flag we would have a problem.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kidnerkim (Post 2393265)
Medical marijuana is not illegal. Do not assume your neighbors or others are breaking the law. The same nuisance from cigars and cigarettes. A large fan to blow the smell back at them?

A fan in your yard is like spiting into the wind. Not a serious solution.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kidnerkim (Post 2393265)
Medical marijuana is not illegal. Do not assume your neighbors or others are breaking the law. The same nuisance from cigars and cigarettes. A large fan to blow the smell back at them?

"Medicine" comes in many forms. Smoking is not the only way to get the drug into the body. The one thing that smoking does do, is insure that the drug will be spread and shared by anyone nearby. Whether they want, need a known hallucinogen or not.

GATORBILL66 12-13-2024 09:24 AM

I would call the cops everytime you smell it!

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:33 AM

[QUOTE=Bill14564;2393293]Not arguing against your point but if you change "smoking" to "drinking" the description fits as well. I know this borders on "whataboutism" but do you feel the same about alcohol?
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Apples and oranges. When you drink your "medicine", you are not dosing the people around you. When you smoke your "medicine", everyone that smells it is getting a bit of your "med", like it or not.

Ptmcbriz 12-13-2024 09:42 AM

I feel for you. Many times I’ve been in our pool relaxing and all the sudden smell the horrible skunk smell from our next door neighbor. Our neighbors across the street have even smelled it. It happens quite frequently. What do I do? Absolutely nothing. As frustrating as it is, if he wants to sit on his lanai and smoke he has a right to do that. I can either go inside or ignore it and continue enjoying my pool.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2393340)
Isn't it amazing just how many people demand others change and refuse to do any changing themselves.

Not really.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2393411)
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393293)
Not arguing against your point but if you change "smoking" to "drinking" the description fits as well. I know this borders on "whataboutism" but do you feel the same about alcohol?

Apples and oranges. When you drink your "medicine", you are not dosing the people around you. When you smoke your "medicine", everyone that smells it is getting a bit of your "med", like it or not.

That was not the point that was being made in the post that was being commented on.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crash (Post 2393267)
You bought the propaganda and pot is used to stem nausea in chemo therapy and in sea sickness so think you are believing what you want and not the truth from first hand knowledge.

And, you bought the opposite propaganda. Yes. You did.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=GoldenBoy;2393368] My Chihuahua loves the little flags, he used to 'water' as many as he could manage.
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That is not funny, and if you let your dog do that, you are a bad neighbor. Jmho?

Nana2Teddy 12-13-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393339)
And sometimes people feign a limp in order to ride in a wheelchair and cut to the head of the line at Disney.

Properly diagnosed conditions and properly prescribed marijuana is perfectly legal in Florida. The rest is not legal at all, it is just not being investigated, tracked, or prosecuted.

Disney stopped that nonsense with very strict requirements now for receiving a DAS pass. Guests in wheelchairs wait in line like everyone else unless they pay for the very pricey lightning lane pass. Just an FYI. ;)

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393420)
That was not the point that was being made in the post that was being commented on.

True. But it was a difference that I felt needed to be pointed out. Personally, I'm not a fan of total prohibition.

jmaccallum 12-13-2024 11:23 AM

:1rotfl:
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Originally Posted by BlackHarley (Post 2393341)
Pot smell sure beats those stinky gasoline golf carts...Oh boy, here we go!

Haha! Was waiting for that one! :1rotfl:

fdpaq0580 12-13-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2393443)
:1rotfl:

Haha! Was waiting for that one! :1rotfl:

Really? 🤔

DrMack 12-13-2024 12:34 PM

Looking For Creatice Solutions
 
I was merely looking for some ideas. The smell is bad daily sometimes it comes in several times a day. Perhaps calling the police is my only recourse. I agree with minding my own business, but I shouldn’t have to endure the smell continuously going into my lanai. That makes it my business. I like to leave our sliders open, I shouldn’t have to avoid my own areas in my own home.

Driller703 12-13-2024 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2393142)
Maybe put out a bunch of wind chimes on your lanai to scare them back to smoking indoors?

Ooooooo! I can’t stand the constant wind chimes! Noticing it more with the snow birds returning. Thinking of calling the police!
(Sarcasm)

tophcfa 12-13-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHarley (Post 2393341)
Pot smell sure beats those stinky gasoline golf carts...Oh boy, here we go!

Does anyone know where I can purchase some incense that replicates the wonderful smell of someone smoking a joint while driving their gas golf cart through a tunnel?


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