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ElDiabloJoe 12-13-2024 03:45 PM

Not saying this isn't a lot of effort to be vindictive, but some might be tempted to get powerful fan from Home Depot and blow it toward the offending residence. Then, in front of the fan, put a paper sack full of accumulated dog waste. Finally, light said sack on fire and go back inside for a while. Repeat every time you notice the offending aroma.

Maybe a clue will be gotten.

Bill14564 12-13-2024 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2393261)
A lot of people around here won’t read the New York Times because they think it has a liberal bias, but it published a long article in October about the results of a number of solid research studies about the dangers of smoking marijuana. For example, lots of frequent users have a lot of problems with nausea. The editorial staff then published a column against national legalization. I was pro-legalization, though I don’t plan to use it, but I changed my mind and voted against it.
...

Interesting article, thanks for mentioning it.

As I read it I noticed that many of the people who reported having problems were what I would consider to be very heavy users. Not once a week or once in a while but 20 days out of the month if not every day. The problems seemed to be a surprise to the authors of the article but should they be? Would the authors be just as surprised if someone who was drunk 20 days out the month or all day every day had health problems?

Perhaps the health problems aren't due to simple marijuana use, perhaps the health problems are due to overuse and abuse. And yes, some will be adversely affected by even a little marijuana use just as some are adversely affected by a little gluten or a little peanut dust or a little alcohol.

We really need to see a controlled study to determine whether moderate use of marijuana causes health problems, how much marijuana use will cause health problems, and whether any health problems are lessened with marijuana use. Anecdotal evidence says some health problems are minimized and the NYT article gives some reason to believe that daily marijuana use can lead to health problems but we really need more and better information.

NoMoSno 12-13-2024 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393502)
Interesting article, thanks for mentioning it.

As I read it I noticed that many of the people who reported having problems were what I would consider to be very heavy users. Not once a week or once in a while but 20 days out of the month if not every day. The problems seemed to be a surprise to the authors of the article but should they be? Would the authors be just as surprised if someone who was drunk 20 days out the month or all day every day had health problems?

Perhaps the health problems aren't due to simple marijuana use, perhaps the health problems are due to overuse and abuse. And yes, some will be adversely affected by even a little marijuana use just as some are adversely affected by a little gluten or a little peanut dust or a little alcohol.

We really need to see a controlled study to determine whether moderate use of marijuana causes health problems, how much marijuana use will cause health problems, and whether any health problems are lessened with marijuana use. Anecdotal evidence says some health problems are minimized and the NYT article gives some reason to believe that daily marijuana use can lead to health problems but we really need more and better information.

Breathing anything combustible is not healthy, whether it's cigarettes, cigars, or a joint. If you have ever smoked weed out of a pipe you will know it's a weekly chore scraping resin and tar buildup up, otherwise it becomes a gooey mess. If one has to use it daily, edibles would be a healthier choice.

MplsPete 12-14-2024 12:39 AM

Just a thought . . . I have heard some cannabis strains stink more than others. You could research what strains don't stink, then buy some seeds (widely available online, purportedly legal to sell and buy) grow some and gift it to annoying neighbor. Since that stuff can cost $3000 a pound, your neighbor might be grateful. And you could be the star of the driveway parties.

Two Bills 12-14-2024 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393463)
I was merely looking for some ideas. The smell is bad daily sometimes it comes in several times a day. Perhaps calling the police is my only recourse. I agree with minding my own business, but I shouldn’t have to endure the smell continuously going into my lanai. That makes it my business. I like to leave our sliders open, I shouldn’t have to avoid my own areas in my own home.

I understand your angst.
But.
I would go one more time and speak with the neighbor and tell him what you will do regarding calling the police.
You put the ball back in his court, ie. smoke in the house, or accept a visit from the police.
I don't know what the police will or can do about the situation, but going straight into report mode without a final warning, could open a bigger can of worms.
JMO.
Good luck.

ScottPull 12-14-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2393298)
It's an interesting analogy. I still drink on the weekends. Most people I know drink occassionally. Sure there are alcoholics. But in my experience the pot smokers are much more likely to smoke all day every day. I realize this is anecdotal based on my experience alone. But every pot smoker I know (and I know a lot more now that it's legal here) smokes every day. I've only known 1 person to be a full blown daily drinking alcoholic that was close to me in my entire life.

I come from a family of several alcoholics. Alcohol can be really bad. Proven to destroy your body and mind. Probably not so much if done in moderation, just like pot. I do gummies but don't overdo it. It's much better for me than alcohol, my body let's me know that. No hangovers, dehydration Bad liver, etc.

Rocksnap 12-14-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2393415)
I feel for you. Many times I’ve been in our pool relaxing and all the sudden smell the horrible skunk smell from our next door neighbor. Our neighbors across the street have even smelled it. It happens quite frequently. What do I do? Absolutely nothing. As frustrating as it is, if he wants to sit on his lanai and smoke he has a right to do that. I can either go inside or ignore it and continue enjoying my pool.

Perhaps go hang out with your neighbor. You just might learn something.

Rocksnap 12-14-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393463)
I was merely looking for some ideas. The smell is bad daily sometimes it comes in several times a day. Perhaps calling the police is my only recourse. I agree with minding my own business, but I shouldn’t have to endure the smell continuously going into my lanai. That makes it my business. I like to leave our sliders open, I shouldn’t have to avoid my own areas in my own home.

Of course you could go join your neighbor. See what all the fuss is about. You may be surprised.

GoldenBoy 12-14-2024 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=fdpaq0580;2393423]
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy (Post 2393368)
My Chihuahua loves the little flags, he used to 'water' as many as he could manage.
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That is not funny, and if you let your dog do that, you are a bad neighbor. Jmho?

Flags on the ground, low enough to be targets for a Chihuahua are a problem.

tophcfa 12-14-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MplsPete (Post 2393564)
Just a thought . . . I have heard some cannabis strains stink more than others. You could research what strains don't stink, then buy some seeds (widely available online, purportedly legal to sell and buy) grow some and gift it to annoying neighbor. Since that stuff can cost $3000 a pound, your neighbor might be grateful. And you could be the star of the driveway parties.

It’s illegal to grow at home in Florida, even with a Medical card. They can’t tax what you produce yourself.

gorillarick 12-14-2024 09:32 AM

smells - loss if revenue ?
 
Last week, went to a restaurant on a square with bar outside that allowed smoking. I try to avoid sitting near the heavy smoking area, but too crowded to get our choice of seats.
Sat right across from the corner of the bar. When we got there 3 people smoking and watching the TV. Woman had a beer in front of her, younger man a cocktail?, older man a water.
Took a long time to order, get our dinner, and eat, and even pay the check. We endured the smoke.
Noticed before leaving, none of the three polluters even drank a third of their drinks.
Then thought of all the revenue loss for having these loser / hosers making everyone else's life; well stinks.

Bassdeer 12-14-2024 09:33 AM

Address please, I need a new hook up.

tophcfa 12-14-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2393643)
Last week, went to a restaurant on a square with bar outside that allowed smoking. I try to avoid sitting near the heavy smoking area, but too crowded to get our choice of seats.
Sat right across from the corner of the bar. When we got there 3 people smoking and watching the TV. Woman had a beer in front of her, younger man a cocktail?, older man a water.
Took a long time to order, get our dinner, and eat, and even pay the check. We endured the smoke.
Noticed before leaving, none of the three polluters even drank a third of their drinks.
Then thought of all the revenue loss for having these loser / hosers making everyone else's life; well stinks.

We won’t eat outside at Americanos for just that reason. Cigarette smoke absolutely ruins a meal.

PJfromCincy 12-14-2024 11:28 AM

Sprinklers
 
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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393023)
Has anyone out there figured out a creative way to address the smelly habits of residents who infringe on your home area with their illegal usage of pot? We don’t want to call the cops and have been polite up to this point but the problem seems to be expanding. What’s a great solution to stopping the smell while keeping law enforcement from arresting the culprits.

It really does seem to be an expanding problem that is coming from several places now here in the Villages. We have smelled it about everywhere.

I used think everybody must be smoking pot here until I realized it was the stink of the sprinkler water I was smelling.

fdpaq0580 12-14-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393463)
I was merely looking for some ideas. The smell is bad daily sometimes it comes in several times a day. Perhaps calling the police is my only recourse. I agree with minding my own business, but I shouldn’t have to endure the smell continuously going into my lanai. That makes it my business. I like to leave our sliders open, I shouldn’t have to avoid my own areas in my own home.

Agree 100%. But don't be surprised when the pot heads blame you, the cops, anyone but themselves for their getting busted. Jerks don't accept responsibility .... ever.

jimjamuser 12-14-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHarley (Post 2393341)
Pot smell sure beats those stinky gasoline golf carts...Oh boy, here we go!

i would gladly jump on that bandwagon. Save the planet, buy electric vehicles only.

jimjamuser 12-14-2024 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=fdpaq0580;2393411]
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2393293)
Not arguing against your point but if you change "smoking" to "drinking" the description fits as well. I know this borders on "whataboutism" but do you feel the same about alcohol?
QUOTE]

Apples and oranges. When you drink your "medicine", you are not dosing the people around you. When you smoke your "medicine", everyone that smells it is getting a bit of your "med", like it or not.

I think that it would be interesting to compare the accident records of weed smokers versus alcohol drinkers. Years ago when I smoked pot, I would drive very SLOWLY and carefully.

jimjamuser 12-14-2024 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393463)
I was merely looking for some ideas. The smell is bad daily sometimes it comes in several times a day. Perhaps calling the police is my only recourse. I agree with minding my own business, but I shouldn’t have to endure the smell continuously going into my lanai. That makes it my business. I like to leave our sliders open, I shouldn’t have to avoid my own areas in my own home.

I would advise you to get fairly LOUD speakers to put out on your lanai. Then play some REALLY obnoxious novelty songs constantly. Maybe the one about Santa kissing mom last night. Also those squeaky gerbil songs - that would drive a lot of people away. i am sure there are more songs like that. The is one by the Police that is hard to take more than once. and the one like Mic.....key....Mou....se. That's a brain worm.

jimjamuser 12-14-2024 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2393501)
Not saying this isn't a lot of effort to be vindictive, but some might be tempted to get powerful fan from Home Depot and blow it toward the offending residence. Then, in front of the fan, put a paper sack full of accumulated dog waste. Finally, light said sack on fire and go back inside for a while. Repeat every time you notice the offending aroma.

Maybe a clue will be gotten.

A perfect solution. Just shy of NUCLEAR retaliation.

Wenham 12-14-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2393729)
I would advise you to get fairly LOUD speakers to put out on your lanai. Then play some REALLY obnoxious novelty songs constantly. Maybe the one about Santa kissing mom last night. Also those squeaky gerbil songs - that would drive a lot of people away. i am sure there are more songs like that. The is one by the Police that is hard to take more than once. and the one like Mic.....key....Mou....se. That's a brain worm.

What happens when they retaliate with BIGGER speakers playing Motley Crue or TAYLOR SWIFT?

fdpaq0580 12-14-2024 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2393587)
Perhaps go hang out with your neighbor. You just might learn something.

One wonders just what one might learn while hanging with clueless stoners with issues. One thing is that you will smell like they do when you head back home.

fdpaq0580 12-14-2024 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2393588)
Of course you could go join your neighbor. See what all the fuss is about. You may be surprised.

Or not. Been there, done that, long ago while mis-spending a bit of my youth. Getting wasted was just that ... a waste.

fdpaq0580 12-14-2024 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=GoldenBoy;2393608]
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2393423)

Flags on the ground, low enough to be targets for a Chihuahua are a problem.

Flags not on your property need to be left alone by you and your walking ostomy bag. Empty it at home. Be a good neighbor, dog owner. Respect other people's property.

PugMom 12-14-2024 08:28 PM

Fl Dept of Health encourages patients to consume smokeables outside, on our property, to avoid any indoor 2nd hand smoke. i'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it is encouraged by the Health Dept. I always felt 1 of 2 things would happen: either the police are called, or new friends start showing up to see what's burning.

PugMom 12-14-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393033)
Because we have already politely talked to the individuals. It did get a little better for a while but now it seems the stinkers have returned with a vengeance. The users aren’t licensed. We know that from other neighborhood group conversation.

this case just sounds like a really bad neighbor. watch out- don't make a big deal or you may face retaliation. I'd let it go, personally

fdpaq0580 12-14-2024 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=jimjamuser;2393727]
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2393411)
I think that it would be interesting to compare the accident records of weed smokers versus alcohol drinkers. Years ago when I smoked pot, I would drive very SLOWLY and carefully.

So you didn't have accidents, you only caused them?
Just teasing.
Actually, I would be surprised if there isn't a study that hasn't been done. Accidents caused by alcohol vs cell phone use, putting on makeup, eating, reading, yelling at the kids, meds (legal and illegal), pets not in carriers, etc, etc...

Kelevision 12-15-2024 08:19 AM

This is the most hilarious post I’ve seen to date.

jimjamuser 12-15-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2393777)
Fl Dept of Health encourages patients to consume smokeables outside, on our property, to avoid any indoor 2nd hand smoke. i'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it is encouraged by the Health Dept. I always felt 1 of 2 things would happen: either the police are called, or new friends start showing up to see what's burning.

I like that new friends part....hhhhmmm

fdpaq0580 12-15-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2393908)
I like that new friends part....hhhhmmm

Be careful! You may get more than you were hoping for.

PugMom 12-16-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wenham (Post 2393760)
What happens when they retaliate with BIGGER speakers playing Motley Crue or TAYLOR SWIFT?

then we party!!!!!!!! :a040:

Laker14 12-16-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2393023)
Has anyone out there figured out a creative way to address the smelly habits of residents who infringe on your home area with their illegal usage of pot? We don’t want to call the cops and have been polite up to this point but the problem seems to be expanding. What’s a great solution to stopping the smell while keeping law enforcement from arresting the culprits.

It really does seem to be an expanding problem that is coming from several places now here in the Villages. We have smelled it about everywhere.

Personally, I think this goes into the bin labelled "inconveniences I can do nothing about". As far as I am concerned having to deal with the smell of neighbors smoking pot is no more, or less, intrusive than lawn mower sounds, weed whackers, gas blowers, cigarettes and cigar smoke, music, loud talkers, etc. etc. I have chosen to live in a fairly densely populated neighborhood, as opposed to out in the country surrounded by acres of woods, and it's all part of the package.

My strategies usually are limited to going inside, closing my sliders, or putting on some of my own music, while wearing noise cancelling headphones.

The only distinction between these other intrusions and pot smell is the legality issue. But does that really matter? Does it change your effective options? Nah. Not really. It gives you an avenue to escalate the battle, but you won't win it. You'll only make your life more uncomfortable. Unless you enjoy going to battle with neighbors, just remove the "legality-illegality" aspect from the equation and deal with it the same way you'd deal with a legal intrusion into your comfort.

Good luck.

jimjamuser 12-16-2024 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2394143)
Personally, I think this goes into the bin labelled "inconveniences I can do nothing about". As far as I am concerned having to deal with the smell of neighbors smoking pot is no more, or less, intrusive than lawn mower sounds, weed whackers, gas blowers, cigarettes and cigar smoke, music, loud talkers, etc. etc. I have chosen to live in a fairly densely populated neighborhood, as opposed to out in the country surrounded by acres of woods, and it's all part of the package.

My strategies usually are limited to going inside, closing my sliders, or putting on some of my own music, while wearing noise cancelling headphones.

The only distinction between these other intrusions and pot smell is the legality issue. But does that really matter? Does it change your effective options? Nah. Not really. It gives you an avenue to escalate the battle, but you won't win it. You'll only make your life more uncomfortable. Unless you enjoy going to battle with neighbors, just remove the "legality-illegality" aspect from the equation and deal with it the same way you'd deal with a legal intrusion into your comfort.

Good luck.

That is a good post that summarizes the situation very well. I have a friend that smokes daily and then goes to the swimming pool. He NEEDS to smoke pot to minimize back pain from a long ago motorcycle accident. He is a very nice person to talk to. He is very intelligent and has interesting opinions on most subjects.
.......Personally, I always liked the smell of pot. I am unhappy that the Florida referendum on pot did not pass, but it was close. Florida has a tendency to be a little too conservative on things like that for my taste.

fdpaq0580 12-17-2024 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2394199)
That is a good post that summarizes the situation very well. I have a friend that smokes daily and then goes to the swimming pool. He NEEDS to smoke pot to minimize back pain from a long ago motorcycle accident. He is a very nice person to talk to. He is very intelligent and has interesting opinions on most subjects.
.......Personally, I always liked the smell of pot. I am unhappy that the Florida referendum on pot did not pass, but it was close. Florida has a tendency to be a little too conservative on things like that for my taste.

"NEEDS tosmoke pot" ? That your friend needs medication is not being questioned. That marijuana contains chemicals that can give him relief is not in question. What is in question, at least for me, is, "are there no better pain killers available", and, if not, is "smoking", in a location where others may be subjected to his "medicine" and it's properties the only option, as opposed to edibles, sniffables (snuff) or inhalers, injectables, or a "safe room", where he can take his medicine in private and not expose others to the noxious side effects of his medical treatment? I wonder?

Babubhat 12-17-2024 05:39 PM

It may be a private nuisance. Consult an attorney. See attached link.

Excerpt

…Illegal activity, noise pollution, light pollution, water pollution, noxious odors, fences, and constant barking all may rise to the level of a private nuisance…

Private Nuisance: Your Right to Peace and Quiet - Bryan W Crews - Bryan W Crews

fdpaq0580 12-18-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2394512)
It may be a private nuisance. Consult an attorney. See attached link.

Excerpt

…Illegal activity, noise pollution, light pollution, water pollution, noxious odors, fences, and constant barking all may rise to the level of a private nuisance…

Private Nuisance: Your Right to Peace and Quiet - Bryan W Crews - Bryan W Crews

No. On TOTV means it is a public nuisance. But thanks for the info.

Babubhat 12-19-2024 11:40 AM

You can complain about it or do something about it. Have an attorney draft cease and desist letter. Follow with litigation if necessary.

Don’t know why these threads get hijacked with non responsive comments

fdpaq0580 12-19-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2394946)
You can complain about it or do something about it. Have an attorney draft cease and desist letter. Follow with litigation if necessary.

Don’t know why these threads get hijacked with non responsive comments

Often a thread is just a conversation. Like at a party or any other gathering. Folks just joining in with their take on the subject. Most won't actually take action, but they will voice their opinion or, in some cases, share experiences. Circulate and find a subject that interests or entertains and join in. If not, move on to the next one.

fdpaq0580 12-20-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2394761)
That depends on the question, doesn’t it?

Is pot good or bad? The minority might be right.

Do the people of Florida want recreational use legalized? The minority has the wrong answer.

Sad, isn't it? Oh, well, it is what it is, but not necessarily what it should be.

PS: jmho, but I still think pot, as does tobacco, stinks.

mrdarcy 12-20-2024 01:32 PM

Happened to me too when I had a home with kissing lanai. I put fans facing those neighbors to blow the smoke back in their direction. Problem is they were used to the smell, so didn't bother them as much at it made me sick. Eventually, they moved and I moved.

Laker14 12-20-2024 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2395109)
While I agree with your dad in theory, I am fond of humans in general and would like to believe they will grow up and learn to be better stewards of their home world until they can migrate to the stars. Right now though, it ain't looking too good.

Time to light one up.


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