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DonnaNi4os 09-05-2022 11:49 AM

Do you stay up at night thinking about this?

ElDiabloJoe 09-05-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2133323)
If I had a choice would take being rich over poor

IIRC, it was Cher in her "Behind The Music" episode that said, "I've been rich. I've been poor. Rich is better."

ThehappypeopleLOL 09-05-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2133256)
As long as people are willing to pay these outrageous prices to rent and buy price will continue to increase.
I would advise people to wait for prices to drop.

A northern lake home next to ours rents their 4-bedroom house for $8,000 per WEEK w/o a boat ($1,500 additional rental fee from the marina)! Renting a home in the Villages for two months is about that rate and is an inexpensive way to go even though it's not an apples to apples comparison.

Two Bills 09-05-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wdh56 (Post 2133342)
Snowbird here. It is matter of what you want to pay for. I want pay to for nice weather all year long. I love The Villages but you can't beat the weather in the north from May to September.

""Oh, it's a long, long while from May to December
But the days grow short when you reach September
When the autumn weather turns the leaves to flame
One hasn't got time for the waiting game""
NKC.

bsloan1960 09-05-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2133038)
We have been renting 3-4 months in high season for over 20 years.
Prices since our last stay in 2019/20 just before Covid restrictions, have more than doubled, and in the case of car rental quadrupled!
We have passed on staying this winter, and in all probabilities seen our last winter in Florida.
Shame, but not paying that sort of outlay, and that's before you stick air fair, food, golf, entertainment etc. on the bill.

When you say you were "Renting:" do you mean an AirBnB? We are considering coming North for 2-3 months but are seeking a way to do so since we will not still own our Up North home. Thanks!

Nana2Teddy 09-05-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2133252)
California has completely run off the rails, and deservedly so. They do not have the electrical grid capacity to serve what is there now, and they want to mandate no fossil fuel vehicles by 2035. It is quite telling that they are now directing residents to refrain from charging electric vehicles in order to ease pressure on their grid.

Yep, and that’s just one of our many many problems here. We are working on getting out of here as soon as possible. We’ll be leaving our 3 adult kids and only grandbaby behind, but that’s their choice to live here. It’s no longer ours.

JMintzer 09-05-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2133323)
If I had a choice would take being rich over poor

"Money doesn't by happiness, but it affords you a higher quality of misery..."

"Money doesn't buy happiness, but it'll buy a Cadillac, so you can drive around looking for it..."


-My late Father-in-Law

Margterrymcg 09-05-2022 09:34 PM

RV alternative
 
We’ve stayed in our RV in a RI campground during the summer. That has been economical.

Two Bills 09-06-2022 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2133463)
When you say you were "Renting:" do you mean an AirBnB? We are considering coming North for 2-3 months but are seeking a way to do so since we will not still own our Up North home. Thanks!

Not AirBnB.
We rented a house.
Used this site, but there are others.

VH4R Home Rentals in The Villages Florida The Villages Rentals

Daxdog 09-06-2022 05:57 AM

SB
 
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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2133415)
Do you stay up at night thinking about this?

I don’t know if they really need more money, the ones near me go from house to house trying borrow everything thing from lawnmower to pots and pans!

La lamy 09-06-2022 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2133414)
interesting, I'd love to see how the numbers were crunched to get to the 1 1/2 months figure. Whenever I calculated it (which I did many times over the years trying to justify the investment) I came up with a number more like 6 or 7 months.
However, I was including my mortgage payment, and not including any capital appreciation (since that is an unknown and unpromised amount).

Whenever I've had this conversation with people, usually owners of homes, they compare what it costs them today, typically on a home they paid cash for, and bought 10 years ago, with what rents are today. It still comes out to more than 1 1/2 months, usually.

Yes every individual would have to take into account mortgage costs if needed, but investing into a home usually always ends up being a wise choice, especially in a well desired location. I know for me it's definitely less expensive to own than rent for 6 months, even with expected repairs taken into account.

Laker14 09-06-2022 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2133489)
"Money doesn't by happiness, but it affords you a higher quality of misery..."

"Money doesn't buy happiness, but it'll buy a Cadillac, so you can drive around looking for it..."


-My late Father-in-Law

:agree:

"Money. You can't take it with you but you can't go very far without it."

"The more $hit you got, the more $hit you gotta worry about"

-My buddy's long late granddad.

Laker14 09-06-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2133539)
Yes every individual would have to take into account mortgage costs if needed, but investing into a home usually always ends up being a wise choice, especially in a well desired location. I know for me it's definitely less expensive to own than rent for 6 months, even with expected repairs taken into account.

I agree. Also, finding a rental every year is a hassle. Many rentals are owned by folks who ultimately plan on retiring and using their home for themselves. When that happens you are back to finding another place. Choice of area becomes tougher.

I had planned on just renting. There is the convenience of handing over the keys and not worrying about anything all summer long. But as my desire to stay in TV stretched from 3 months to eventually 7+, it made sense to buy.

The extra hassle of ownership is more than outweighed by the convenience of having my own furniture, (a good bed!), my own pots, pans, cutlery, and two golf carts ready and waiting for me.
It's a good life. I worked a few extra years so I could afford it. I'm glad I did.
As far as I'm concerned, the fact that the real estate will likely appreciate is gravy, and WTH, maybe as good an investment, or better, than CDs or bonds, or equities. Probably not a bad way to diversify.

ILLINOIS RAY 09-06-2022 06:47 AM

Why so bitter? You do not know everyone's circumstances.

MX rider 09-06-2022 07:19 AM

We'll be snowbrids soon. We bought a home in TV last March. Just downsized here in SW Indiana to get prepared for retirement. Our plan is to keep both homes for about 4 or 5 years until the grandkids get a bit older. My wife isn't ready to leave them yet. Plus we do love it here 7 months out of the year. lol.
Eventually we'll end up in TV full time. We planned for this, but we don't want 2 homes forever.

Everyones plan is different. It really isn't about wealth, but investing well and saving for retirement. Also not buying more house than you can afford is key. We're not rich by any means, but god willing we stay healthy and can live full and active life.


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