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Aloha 07-21-2021 06:22 AM

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J1ceasar 07-21-2021 06:23 AM

Those are the people that will tailgate you also and then make a lane change to the right and back around the front of you.

J1ceasar 07-21-2021 06:24 AM

Beans over cornbread????

Girlcopper 07-21-2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 1975704)
So says the man who obviously never wore the uniform, or had to pull the dead 8 year-old out from under the speeding SUV, whose driver was in a hurry to get to a pedicure appointment.

Law enforcement agencies do not use enhanced enforcement campaigns as "fund raisers." The sheriff certainly does not get to keep revenue generated through traffic citations.

Laws, and rules, are there for a reason. And, yes...safety is a big part of their existence. Ignoring laws, simply because someone may not be posing a threat in a particular snapshot of a moment, is ignorant. What's next? Is driving while impaired OK as long as you don't kill anyone? Is stealing OK if you really need the money? Is assault OK if that guy really pushed your button? Hopefully, you get the drift.

If all motorists (and golf car drivers) simply did their part and obeyed the laws, there would be drastically fewer incidents that result in people getting hurt. Remember...driving is a privilege, not your right.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Notice that every time a villager sees a speeder or a traffic violator, whats the first thing they spew? Wheres the cops….why arent they out here? Etc etc. So, now you have a planned enforcement and its, “oh. Just looking to grab money from people”. SMH

Hiltongrizz11 07-21-2021 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1975678)
Doc. I am getting a mental picture of you as leadfoot.

The only time in my life I ran afoul of the law, I was speeding. Well make that two times. I am terribly impatient way too much in my life but for some reason, not in a car. I am not sure why, but that is true of all of the drivers I know well. I have been annoyed in a car but NEVER full of rage.

I see nothing wrong with the sheriff's slowing down a few wild folks. Nothing wrong with that. It is their job and I am so weary of them being maligned. I like cops.

No way! Not a chance in the world that in your lifetime you've only violated the law twice and both times just happened to get caught. You've either painted a sanctimonious picture of yourself or you're completely naive.

chuckpedrey 07-21-2021 06:54 AM

45 or 50 on Morse Boulevard north of 466 is problematic because of the golf cart traffic on that stretch of road.

Guitarman1951 07-21-2021 07:12 AM

Couldn't have come any sooner. Speeders on Morse and Buena Vista are rampant as well as on 466 coming from Rolling Acres.

Bill1701 07-21-2021 07:18 AM

I'd much rather have people doing 10-15 over the limit driving near me than the ones doing 5-10 under and looking at their phones.

tuccillo 07-21-2021 07:18 AM

She never said she only violated the law twice. She said she only got caught twice.



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Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1976005)
No way! Not a chance in the world that in your lifetime you've only violated the law twice and both times just happened to get caught. You've either painted a sanctimonious picture of yourself or you're completely naive.


taruffi57 07-21-2021 07:18 AM

How? Parking an unmanned patrol car in the median?

MizJodi 07-21-2021 07:19 AM

Speeders think it’s The Villages 500

noslices1 07-21-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1975658)
Posted on Facebook by the Sumter County Sheriff's Office:

"The Sumter County Sheriff's Office is participating in a tough new speed enforcement blitz under the tagline: “Obey the Sign or Pay the Fine.” The intensified enforcement effort against speeding drivers underscores the severity of the problem both locally and across the nation. This initiative will take place beginning Monday, July 19th - July 24th."

All those EMPTY Sheriff’s cars that have been sitting on some of the main streets may now be manned by the Sheriff’s Deputies. Surprise, surprise to all the people who have been speeding past them.

MandoMan 07-21-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1975669)
Be careful what you wish for.

Again, I personally don't speed, so no dog in this fight either,------however.....

Someone going 45 or even 50 on BV or Morse (south of 466) doesn't bother me in the least---they will just pass me and be on their way, and they are not a safety hazard. It's the person going 25 that poses a greater risk---as everybody makes some lame move to get around them. They won't get into an accident, but they will cause them

The persons driving above the limit are, for the most part, younger with better vision and reflexes than average. I don't think a NASCAR champion would poses a risk regardless of their speed. The 90 year old who can't see above the steering wheel is the threat, so go ticket them when they drive 20.

I don't see why so many Villagers get their undies in a bunch when someone passes them. I get passed all the time when going the speed limit----SO WHAT

I drive the speed limit in The Villages, as do most people. Where your going 50 on Morse is dangerous for me is when I’m trying to make a left turn, especially in a golf cart. I look at a car in the distance, assume it is going 35, but it’s actually going 50 and is coming up on me much faster than I expected. Because traffic on north Morse during busy periods is dependent on lights—cars come in spurts of twenty or thirty at a time—I can often squeeze a left turn in before a slower oncoming car, but I have to watch out for the cars that speed up to close the gap and arrive at the next light two seconds faster.

kendi 07-21-2021 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1975669)
Be careful what you wish for.

Again, I personally don't speed, so no dog in this fight either,------however.....

Someone going 45 or even 50 on BV or Morse (south of 466) doesn't bother me in the least---they will just pass me and be on their way, and they are not a safety hazard. It's the person going 25 that poses a greater risk---as everybody makes some lame move to get around them. They won't get into an accident, but they will cause them

The persons driving above the limit are, for the most part, younger with better vision and reflexes than average. I don't think a NASCAR champion would poses a risk regardless of their speed. The 90 year old who can't see above the steering wheel is the threat, so go ticket them when they drive 20.

I don't see why so many Villagers get their undies in a bunch when someone passes them. I get passed all the time when going the speed limit----SO WHAT

Safety IS the reason. There is a reason why speed limits exist.

kendi 07-21-2021 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill1701 (Post 1976035)
I'd much rather have people doing 10-15 over the limit driving near me than the ones doing 5-10 under and looking at their phones.

Both are bad. It’s not an either or....

ribil 07-21-2021 08:13 AM

Speeding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1975661)
In other words, a fundraising blitz under the guise of "safety":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

No, it’s a safety blitz. Long overdue and should be continued.

graciegirl 07-21-2021 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1976009)
And of course you get those few villagers out of the many that think that their own little bubble is how the rest of the world should be.

They actually come across this arrogant and snobby... Like you.

To whom do you speak, sir/madam?

I kinda think that our little bubble is a danged great little bubble.

Larchap49 07-21-2021 08:21 AM

NY ers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1975810)
I continue to be amazed at all the northeast bashing especially about
New York.

Midwesterners are no nicer than New Yorkers. There are good and bad from every state.

You try living in the New York City area and see how you would handle it.

Just remember during 9-11 all those New Yorkers pulled together and helped each other.

Then most who could afford it got out of Dodge. Ask the residents of Connecticut and other close states how they feel. After 10 days in CT I can attest it is a constant negative conversation. I never lived in the City but it really does seem that those that did really do have an unnecessary edge and rudeness to them, and they seem to take impatience to another level. I sometimes find it really amusing to watch it in action, but not sure the waitresses or store clerks on the receiving end would agree.

graciegirl 07-21-2021 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1976005)
No way! Not a chance in the world that in your lifetime you've only violated the law twice and both times just happened to get caught. You've either painted a sanctimonious picture of yourself or you're completely naive.

When I was a very small girl, my grandfather who was an over six foot tall Irish descent Columbus, Ohio Police Officer for 37 years, took me for a visit to the city jail. He showed me a cell and locked me in for a moment and on the way there and on the way back he talked to me about why there are laws and what the good in them are and what happens to people who broke them. I cannot say I have never made a mistake or ever done anything wrong. I have done that thousands of times, but I have been pulled over twice and ticketed. I haven't ever run afoul of the law any other times. I haven't beat my spouse, or stolen anything. (Well not after my grandmother lectured me for taking apples from Mrs. Tracy's tree). I haven't as far as I remember broken any other laws but speeding. Let me think now. I haven't been to confession in a very long time.

Larchap49 07-21-2021 08:25 AM

Crook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1975851)
If you caught someone in your house burglarizing it, you should have been calling the Coroner not the Sheriff.

That depends on whether or not you think only the crooks should have guns

Wing-nut2 07-21-2021 08:34 AM

It's about time!

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 1975704)
So says the man who obviously never wore the uniform, or had to pull the dead 8 year-old out from under the speeding SUV, whose driver was in a hurry to get to a pedicure appointment.

Law enforcement agencies do not use enhanced enforcement campaigns as "fund raisers." The sheriff certainly does not get to keep revenue generated through traffic citations.

Laws, and rules, are there for a reason. And, yes...safety is a big part of their existence. Ignoring laws, simply because someone may not be posing a threat in a particular snapshot of a moment, is ignorant. What's next? Is driving while impaired OK as long as you don't kill anyone? Is stealing OK if you really need the money? Is assault OK if that guy really pushed your button? Hopefully, you get the drift.

If all motorists (and golf car drivers) simply did their part and obeyed the laws, there would be drastically fewer incidents that result in people getting hurt. Remember...driving is a privilege, not your right.

Yes...Yes...and Yes. I applaud you and this post. (So many of the old fart Villagers think their s$#& doesn't stink, they know all...so maddening)
Thank you

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyseguy (Post 1975713)
so now you can only post about cops, good or bad, if you put on a costume and pulled a dead 8 year old from a wreck.
Got it.

omg!!! You are clueless

DAVES 07-21-2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 1975704)
So says the man who obviously never wore the uniform, or had to pull the dead 8 year-old out from under the speeding SUV, whose driver was in a hurry to get to a pedicure appointment.

Law enforcement agencies do not use enhanced enforcement campaigns as "fund raisers." The sheriff certainly does not get to keep revenue generated through traffic citations.

Laws, and rules, are there for a reason. And, yes...safety is a big part of their existence. Ignoring laws, simply because someone may not be posing a threat in a particular snapshot of a moment, is ignorant. What's next? Is driving while impaired OK as long as you don't kill anyone? Is stealing OK if you really need the money? Is assault OK if that guy really pushed your button? Hopefully, you get the drift.

If all motorists (and golf car drivers) simply did their part and obeyed the laws, there would be drastically fewer incidents that result in people getting hurt. Remember...driving is a privilege, not your right.

As a friend says, just because they get older does not mean they grow up.

Bill14564 07-21-2021 08:54 AM

For those that are in strong support for cracking down on speeding, just what are you personally willing to be ticketed for?

- Driving 65 in a 35? I imagine we all could agree on that

- Driving 40 up the south section of Morse between 44 and 466?

- Driving 23 in a circle?

- Driving 32 on Pinellas? Would you truly accept that you were being unsafe at two miles over the limit?

Anecdote: The local authorities in another state lowered the speed limits in a community from 30 to 25. They didn't do this because 27 had become an unsafe speed, they did this so the ticket at 32 was now seven mph over the limit rather than 2 mph over and had a better chance of holding up in traffic court. Are our roads marked at the maximum safe speed or was the speed chosen for some other reason?

I personally support reasonable speed limits and reasonable traffic enforcement. The problem, of course, is everyone has a different idea of what "reasonable" is.

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1976055)
I drive the speed limit in The Villages, as do most people. Where your going 50 on Morse is dangerous for me is when I’m trying to make a left turn, especially in a golf cart. I look at a car in the distance, assume it is going 35, but it’s actually going 50 and is coming up on me much faster than I expected. Because traffic on north Morse during busy periods is dependent on lights—cars come in spurts of twenty or thirty at a time—I can often squeeze a left turn in before a slower oncoming car, but I have to watch out for the cars that speed up to close the gap and arrive at the next light two seconds faster.

Read the parenthetical statement about Morse---there ARE NO left turns in a golf cart on Morse south of 466

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1976057)
Safety IS the reason. There is a reason why speed limits exist.

So which is safer------a NASCAR champion or a 90 year old who can't see well, both driving 45 on 466A???? Do you really think they are both EQUALLY safe because the same arbitrary limit is placed on BOTH of them????
If it were feasible (and yes, I know it isn't), I would favor a rating system that set a "speed limit" based on the driver's ability.

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976130)
So which is safer------a NASCAR champion or a 90 year old who can't see well, both driving 45 on 466A???? Do you really think they are both EQUALLY safe because the same arbitrary limit is placed on BOTH of them????
If it were feasible (and yes, I know it isn't), I would favor a rating system that set a "speed limit" based on the driver's ability.


If that system was enforced we'd lose about 60% of TV drivers.

conman5652@aol.com 07-21-2021 09:10 AM

We lost our son due to impaired driver last February. He was driving the wrong way on I 70. His two sons and wife will never have his love and knowledge.
How many family members must u lose to stop justifying these remarks u are making.
The laws r there for our safety.
Obeying them is how we as a society keep the chaos from running wild.
I had a state trooper say that as long as u follow the flow of traffic even if u r above the posted limit they will not intercede.
So please I hope u would understand where I’m coming from

Jerry101 07-21-2021 09:11 AM

… until the Lord returns!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1975658)
Posted on Facebook by the Sumter County Sheriff's Office:

"The Sumter County Sheriff's Office is participating in a tough new speed enforcement blitz under the tagline: “Obey the Sign or Pay the Fine.” The intensified enforcement effort against speeding drivers underscores the severity of the problem both locally and across the nation. This initiative will take place beginning Monday, July 19th - July 24th."

… I really wish they would enforce the speed limits around here until the Lord returns. Those that ‘preach’ ‘it’s not the person doing 10 or 15 over the speed limit that’s the problem… it’s the ones doing under the speed limit who are the problem’! POPPYCOCK!!! Slow down!!! Obey the traffic laws!!! Those that get frustrated with people following the ‘rules’ are the ones at fault … and you know if you are one of them! … and please don’t let me get going on those who can’t or won’t park between the lines!!! 😎

SugarOnMyTongue 07-21-2021 09:19 AM

How is this being implemented?
 
Ever watch a NASCAR "restrictor plate" race.....all cars are limited to a very similar speed, they all get clustered together and when something bad happens many cars crash.

Traveling a bit over the speed limit isn't a bad thing, if it serves to stretch out traffic vs. clustering it. It actually allows many to remain sane, driving with cars on surrounding you makes many very nervous and leads to aggressive driving (road rage).

Chasing down the 5-7 mph over drivers is really chasing a revenue stream and not helping public safety. Chasing down those going above that, the reckless, the "street racers", etc. is taking action to make roads safer and i hope is where efforts are focused.

So, anybody know with the goal of this effort is? The casual speeder who arguably is trying to drive safe or the reckless driver putting others in jeopardy?

Polish Golfer 07-21-2021 09:27 AM

It's about time!!!
 
I really hope the catch a lot of speeders and they should also look for those who got through stop signs. It's about time!

yabbadu 07-21-2021 09:31 AM

The reason I speed is because the Doofas in front of me is doing 10 MPH under the speed limit!

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1976139)
… I really wish they would enforce the speed limits around here until the Lord returns. Those that ‘preach’ ‘it’s not the person doing 10 or 15 over the speed limit that’s the problem… it’s the ones doing under the speed limit who are the problem’! POPPYCOCK!!! Slow down!!! Obey the traffic laws!!! Those that get frustrated with people following the ‘rules’ are the ones at fault … and you know if you are one of them! … and please don’t let me get going on those who can’t or won’t park between the lines!!! 😎

You are SOOOOOOO wrong. The person going well under the limit is a far bigger problem then those that are going 10 over (not 20 or 30+ over, but 10, which is also like a golf cart going 2 over). I'm sure you've witnessed the mayhem that ensues when some bozo is going 55 in the left lane of an interstate, or even 25 on BV or Morse south of 466. Those drivers are not "following the rules", they are road litter and should turn their licenses in, because, as stated before, they might not get into an accident, but will surely cause one

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polish Golfer (Post 1976151)
I really hope the catch a lot of speeders and they should also look for those who got through stop signs. It's about time!

You mean issue a bunch of tickets to cyclists?????

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1976132)
If that system was enforced we'd lose about 60% of TV drivers.

Hence, the "not feasible" part

Jerry101 07-21-2021 09:34 AM

Duh!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976130)
So which is safer------a NASCAR champion or a 90 year old who can't see well, both driving 45 on 466A???? Do you really think they are both EQUALLY safe because the same arbitrary limit is placed on BOTH of them????
If it were feasible (and yes, I know it isn't), I would favor a rating system that set a "speed limit" based on the driver's ability.

… I’ll take “the dumbest thing I’ve ever read for $200 Alex.”

… 🙄

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1976165)
… I’ll take “the dumbest thing I’ve ever read for $200 Alex.”


are you referring to your post?????
Since I take it you feel those 2 drivers have equal skill levels

Rosebud1949 07-21-2021 09:49 AM

Who would be a cop these days
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 1975745)
I like cops. There, I said it. Does that mean I like bad cops? No. Of course not. Every segment of society has some bad apples. Does that mean you have to use the word ‘good’ every time you refer to a group like the cops? Absolutely not.

Yes, I like cops.

Damned if you do stop folk speeding, and fine them, and damned if you dont, and have to scrape folk off the road when they are killed by someone speeding, and NOT in control. The boy racers, the median lane huggers, the "I dont know what to do at a traffic circle" folk, but get in everyone's way. All as bad as each other. SLOW DOWN. Why blame the cops, you are breaking the law, they deal with it, and the ATTITUDE you give them..... what a job..... no wonder they are leaving in droves.

jjombrello 07-21-2021 09:51 AM

Excellent post. Spot on.


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