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Jerry101 07-21-2021 09:54 AM

Really???!!!
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976161)
You are SOOOOOOO wrong. The person going well under the limit is a far bigger problem then those that are going 10 over (not 20 or 30+ over, but 10, which is also like a golf cart going 2 over). I'm sure you've witnessed the mayhem that ensues when some bozo is going 55 in the left lane of an interstate, or even 25 on BV or Morse south of 466. Those drivers are not "following the rules", they are road litter and should turn their licenses in, because, as stated before, they might not get into an accident, but will surely cause one

… are you kidding me??? You think people doing 25 on BV or Morse are a problem?!?!? You can’t be serious … let alone there are round-a-bouts to deal with where the limit drops to 20! If this ‘argument’ we’re a 🥊 boxing match you would be counted out 🥳 …

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1976176)
… are you kidding me??? You think people doing 25 on BV or Morse are a problem?!?!? You can’t be serious … let alone there are round-a-bouts to deal with where the limit drops to 20! If this ‘argument’ we’re a 🥊 boxing match you would be counted out 🥳 …

Actually,

Wyseguy 07-21-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aloha (Post 1975972)
Some of you may enjoy this controversial YouTube channel, regardless of your opinion on law enforcement efforts.
Lawsuit After INSANE Arrest - 73 Year Old With Dementia - Part 1 - YouTube

This is exactly what I mean. Most cops are good, however those that are bad have an inordinate ability to harm, destroy or end citizens lives.

Bill14564 07-21-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry101 (Post 1976176)
… are you kidding me??? You think people doing 25 on BV or Morse are a problem?!?!? You can’t be serious … let alone there are round-a-bouts to deal with where the limit drops to 20! If this ‘argument’ we’re a 🥊 boxing match you would be counted out 🥳 …

Absolutely a problem. As has been explained at least twice before, people driving significantly under the speed limit cause others to take action to maneuver around them. This means changing lanes on the straight stretches and possibly changing lanes in the circles. And if they are successful in building a line of cars behind them then it means a line trying to get into the next circle which everyone knows causes problems as well.

Plus, it is almost certain that the person driving significantly under the speed limit will want to turn left at a circle. To be "safe" they will place themselves into the left lane far in advance of the circle which will result in other drivers using the right lane as the passing lane.

If a driver feels unsafe traveling at 35 mph on Morse or BV then that driver should reconsider whether they should be behind the wheel.

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976211)
Absolutely a problem. As has been explained at least twice before, people driving significantly under the speed limit cause others to take action to maneuver around them. This means changing lanes on the straight stretches and possibly changing lanes in the circles. And if they are successful in building a line of cars behind them then it means a line trying to get into the next circle which everyone knows causes problems as well.

Plus, it is almost certain that the person driving significantly under the speed limit will want to turn left at a circle. To be "safe" they will place themselves into the left lane far in advance of the circle which will result in other drivers using the right lane as the passing lane.

If a driver feels unsafe traveling at 35 mph on Morse or BV then that driver should reconsider whether they should be behind the wheel.

Absolutely!!!!!

I don't understand why some other people just don't get it. Again, I've been drawn into this even though I don't speed and don't have a dog in this fight. But since I'm here, I think there should be equal opportunity for a citation. In NY, the unofficial rule was "eight you skate, nine you're mine" referring to going 8 or 9 mph over the limit. I would add those same parameters to going 8 or 9 UNDER the limit. Also, how many left lane Louie's know they are REQUIRED to pull over if someone wants to pass, even if they are going the limit?

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976180)
Actually,

Sadly, you are wrong...you just think you are right and try very aggressively to get others to believe you. Hummmm, wonder how you drive?

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1976271)
Sadly, you are wrong...you just think you are right and try very aggressively to get others to believe you. Hummmm, wonder how you drive?

Sorry to disagree, but I am NOT wrong. I never said people significantly exceeding the speed limit were not a threat, but 5 or 10 above by a COMPETANT driver is superior to 10 below by a left lane Louie, and both are better than an incompetent driver whether that be by alcohol, texting or age. I don't have to "try aggressively" to get others to agree----the story speaks for itself, and there are plenty that agree. I doubt you will be among them:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Nucky 07-21-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976222)
Absolutely!!!!!

I don't understand why some other people just don't get it. Again, I've been drawn into this even though I don't speed and don't have a dog in this fight. But since I'm here, I think there should be equal opportunity for a citation. In NY, the unofficial rule was "eight you skate, nine you're mine" referring to going 8 or 9 mph over the limit. I would add those same parameters to going 8 or 9 UNDER the limit. Also, how many left lane Louie's know they are REQUIRED to pull over if someone wants to pass, even if they are going the limit?

Not many people will understand what you were laying down. We come from a unique place where common sense, not the laying down the law to the letter was applied. I like your 8 or 9 M.P.H. examples.

People have to be careful of us Northerners. We use common sense way too much. We are even more dangerous when we is the edumacated type of Northerner, like you Dr. Unedumacated types are really really dangerous, like me.

I'm with you. I have no dog in dis fight. It's amusing that people think that those who have driven the way they do for a lifetime will change because they read it in a forum that it's bad to speed. WWJWD = What would John_W Do? :1rotfl::1rotfl: :mademyday:

kcrazorbackfan 07-21-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1975658)
Posted on Facebook by the Sumter County Sheriff's Office:

"The Sumter County Sheriff's Office is participating in a tough new speed enforcement blitz under the tagline: “Obey the Sign or Pay the Fine.” The intensified enforcement effort against speeding drivers underscores the severity of the problem both locally and across the nation. This initiative will take place beginning Monday, July 19th - July 24th."

Yeah, right; really going to get tough on speeders for 1 week. Wow, I bet that took a lot of hand wrangling to do that.

I wish we had a no nonsense Sheriff like Grady Judd in Polk County. It’s time for our “never stop anyone” Sheriff to retire.

Gpsma 07-21-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1975978)
Beans over cornbread????

Lol...ask our beloved GracieGirl about that.

Years ago, before i moved here, i said we need to have a halal chicken and rice vendor.

Gracie didnt understan what that was..NYC street food from a cart. She thought it was high elegant food and said...we from the midwest are use to simple food like beans over cornbread.
Another poster explained...its far from fancy.

But thats our GracieGirl. Still trying to perfect making it at home. Once i do it...im delivering her a nice meal

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976164)
Hence, the "not feasible" part


We can all chime in...gaslighting is not necessary.

Spalumbos62 07-21-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1976272)
Sorry to disagree, but I am NOT wrong. I never said people significantly exceeding the speed limit were not a threat, but 5 or 10 above by a COMPETANT driver is superior to 10 below by a left lane Louie, and both are better than an incompetent driver whether that be by alcohol, texting or age. I don't have to "try aggressively" to get others to agree----the story speaks for itself, and there are plenty that agree. I doubt you will be among them:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


I am sure there are many more accidents resulting from speed rather than going too slow. Ending your post to everyone with rude, yes aggressive comments really is not mature, or pleasant, in addition, adding the silly floor slapping emoji only supports my point.

With that said, you sometimes make interesting points, I wish they didn't present in such a negative way, all the time.

golfing eagles 07-21-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1976313)
I am sure there are many more accidents resulting from speed rather than going too slow. Ending your post to everyone with rude, yes aggressive comments really is not mature, or pleasant, in addition, adding the silly floor slapping emoji only supports my point.

With that said, you sometimes make interesting points, I wish they didn't present in such a negative way, all the time.

But I like my rolling, laughing emoji :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Also consider this: When an accident occurs due to speed, it's usually obvious and labelled as such. But when an accident occurs due to a slow driver, it isn't as obvious, and probably not blamed on him/her

butlerism 07-21-2021 06:07 PM

Total agreement.
Travel in your cart with your phone aligned to snap video.

I was making a 100% legal left turn. Signaling and all.

Despite.... no one behind me, I wait to make my turn and some Jack$$$ whooshes by me crossing over the solid white line (golf cart lane) and passes me.

One of those passes where your car kneels over a bit, due to the air pressure of a rapidly advancing car.
Wish I was in my truck. I have the video, I would have followed them and have police arrive.
They will ticket by video

It is a public safety thing

Incoblack1 07-21-2021 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1975669)
Be careful what you wish for.

Again, I personally don't speed, so no dog in this fight either,------however.....

Someone going 45 or even 50 on BV or Morse (south of 466) doesn't bother me in the least---they will just pass me and be on their way, and they are not a safety hazard. It's the person going 25 that poses a greater risk---as everybody makes some lame move to get around them. They won't get into an accident, but they will cause them

The persons driving above the limit are, for the most part, younger with better vision and reflexes than average. I don't think a NASCAR champion would poses a risk regardless of their speed. The 90 year old who can't see above the steering wheel is the threat, so go ticket them when they drive 20.

I don't see why so many Villagers get their undies in a bunch when someone passes them. I get passed all the time when going the speed limit----SO WHAT

It's a much nicer world when everyone plays by the same rules!

Incoblack1 07-21-2021 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1976126)
For those that are in strong support for cracking down on speeding, just what are you personally willing to be ticketed for?

- Driving 65 in a 35? I imagine we all could agree on that

- Driving 40 up the south section of Morse between 44 and 466?

- Driving 23 in a circle?

- Driving 32 on Pinellas? Would you truly accept that you were being unsafe at two miles over the limit?

Anecdote: The local authorities in another state lowered the speed limits in a community from 30 to 25. They didn't do this because 27 had become an unsafe speed, they did this so the ticket at 32 was now seven mph over the limit rather than 2 mph over and had a better chance of holding up in traffic court. Are our roads marked at the maximum safe speed or was the speed chosen for some other reason?

I personally support reasonable speed limits and reasonable traffic enforcement. The problem, of course, is everyone has a different idea of what "reasonable" is.

If you don't agree with the speed limits get them changed but don't make your own limits. The limits were set for a reason you may not understand but the traffic engineers do!

golfing eagles 07-22-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Incoblack1 (Post 1976446)
It's a much nicer world when everyone plays by the same rules!

And part of that nicer world is when the speed limit "rule" is 70 on a 3 lane in each direction interstate, some bozo isn't going 55 in the far left lane.

And I will still maintain that that driver is as much or greater CAUSE of accidents than those going 80. I would like to know what the LEOs on this site really think----not "the law is the law" , but what is the cause of more accidents. If not, just ask the truckers, since they will generally tell you it is the slow drivers

And just to pose the question another way-----what do you think causes more accidents---someone driving straight in one lane, or having to frequently change lanes to get past the slugs? The answer is obvious, so again, LEO should be out ticketing the clowns as well as the speeders

frose 07-22-2021 05:22 PM

I hope someone does speed monitoring on golf carts also..I see more of a problem with them than with the cars.. The real enforcement needs is for directional signals.. Apparently they are an option on florida cars that not many people have.

golfing eagles 07-22-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by frose (Post 1976945)
I hope someone does speed monitoring on golf carts also..I see more of a problem with them than with the cars.. The real enforcement needs is for directional signals.. Apparently they are an option on florida cars that not many people have.

So, based on your vast experience of days on this site and possibly as a Villager, just what is the problem that exceeds those of cars???? And are talking carts going 21 or 30+?

woodcocd 07-30-2021 07:49 AM

Sumter County Cracks down on Speeding?
 
I have lived in Polo ridge for 4 years now and never have seen a SCP pull anyone over for speeding. I travel 466, Bono Vista and Southern Trace daily and see speeders continue go 15 - 20 MPH over the Limit. Don't ever get in the way of FedEx or UPS you will be run over as we know. Not to mention the people that don't know they have a turn signal on their car. Its really funny when they put a unmanned patrol car out there and grass goes up under it:) David

villagetinker 07-30-2021 07:55 AM

IMHO, they could have written the 29 tickets in one morning on Buena Vista alone.

Stu from NYC 07-30-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1980538)
IMHO, they could have written the 29 tickets in one morning on Buena Vista alone.

Stop signs are routinely ignored, either enforce them or remove them and lets play demolition derby.

eyc234 07-30-2021 05:20 PM

It is a law not a choice. Where do people get that they can choose what law they want to obey and what law they want to ignore. If that is the new rule I am going to start hiring techies to steal only a dollar or two out of peoples bank accounts on a monthly basis. Seems fair to me, not taking it all only 1 or 2 dollars, what is it hurting!! If you do not like a law work to get it changed. Stop breaking the law!!

GrumpyOldMan 07-30-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1976313)
I am sure there are many more accidents resulting from speed rather than going too slow. Ending your post to everyone with rude, yes aggressive comments really is not mature, or pleasant, in addition, adding the silly floor slapping emoji only supports my point.

With that said, you sometimes make interesting points, I wish they didn't present in such a negative way, all the time.

Well, a quick google will show the first dozen or so results are insurance companies. They all agree, driving too slow is more likely to result in an accident than driving too fast.

I expect they HAVE a horse in this race, called profit.

GrumpyOldMan 07-30-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1980886)
It is a law not a choice. Where do people get that they can choose what law they want to obey and what law they want to ignore. If that is the new rule I am going to start hiring techies to steal only a dollar or two out of peoples bank accounts on a monthly basis. Seems fair to me, not taking it all only 1 or 2 dollars, what is it hurting!! If you do not like a law work to get it changed. Stop breaking the law!!

Hmmm. Let me see. "I got rights by god, no one can tell me what to do"...

Just saying it seems I have heard the answer to your question here a few times...

And I am 100% in agreement with, "stop breaking the law, if you don't like it work to change it". YUP!


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