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JMintzer 01-06-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne D (Post 2046656)
If you only listen to FOX NEWS you will follow their guidance and "DON'T LOOK UP" at the reality that those who are not vaccinated are the ones getting and spreading COVID. The vaccinated may get it but it will most likely not kill them. The vaccine is not poison it is protection. LOOK UP!!!

Pretty much everyone I watch on FOX News says to get vaccinated...

JMintzer 01-06-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kenoc7 (Post 2046670)
You are kidding, right. Over 800,000 dead from COVID in the USA, over 5 million around the world. Get vaccinate, wear masks.

Died "with" covid... Not necessarily "from" covid...

JMintzer 01-06-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 2046680)
TRUE. It’s design is to make the infection less severe same with annual flu shot, shingles shot, pneumonia shot and hopefully keep you out of the hospital.

Then why were we initially told that if you got vaccinated you were safe from GETTING covid?

Wasn't that what it was designed to do?

And btw, I've not only had covid (2 years ago), but I've had both my vax shots, plus a booster...

Trishakaye 01-06-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2046509)
I went to Starbucks Trailwinds today.
Lobby was closed. New drive thru hours are until 3 pm and
closed on Thursday. I asked and it’s due to staffing shortages.
Oh and the prices went up again.

How are people NOT working??

We’d better get used to a new way of living

Trishakaye 01-06-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2046574)
Good. We need to stick to the rules!

Whose rules? Vaccinated, booster#1, booster #2, booster #3 - most of us will eventually get one of the variations.

Trishakaye 01-06-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeyephan (Post 2046575)
It is interesting that the vaccinated don’t need to test even though they can still get the variant and pass it on. Several friends and family members have experienced this. So what good is all of this doing if the asymptomatic person handing me my latte has been vaxed and is wearing a cloth mask?

Absolutely! I chose to get vaxed due to my age but I still got Covid. Definitely NOT asymptomatic

Bogie Shooter 01-06-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 2046661)
There's a bigger agenda here with this vaccine all one need do is read between the lines. You may want to read RFK Jrs. book on Fauci, Gates and Big Pharma. Holy mackerel it's an eye opener! Read about "Mass Formation Psychosis"too. To search for it you may not want to use Google instead use "DuckDuckGo"

That "between the lines", is what got us to where we are today.

MrFlorida 01-06-2022 09:00 AM

I don't understand, people would rather loose their job before getting vaccinated, but how do they intend to survive without an income ?

waltwl 01-06-2022 09:00 AM

So true

Trishakaye 01-06-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 2046602)
Staff shortages are often because positive covid cases. Dont blame the business when the real culprit are those who choose not to get vaccinated and infect everyone else.

Are you paying attention? Vaccinated folks still pass it on!!! You can’t outrun it forever unless you move to a private island

Trishakaye 01-06-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2046610)
My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

I’m vaxed, had horrible, scary reaction to the booster. I support your decision

B-flat 01-06-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2046716)
Died "with" covid... Not necessarily "from" covid...

Right on. I knew a 51 year old who 3 weeks ago died with Covid, but it was her diabetes, confinement to a wheel chair and kidney problems that really took her life. Just so happens she had Covid. The doctor told the family even without Covid her days were numbered.

In 2020 I had a 92 year old uncle die while hospitalized. The day before he died they tested him for Covid 3 times, each time he was negative. I'm sure they were attempting to say he died from Covid.

jdulej 01-06-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 2046616)
Why?

Because it's time for people to take responsibility for themselves. You get a hand out for a while, but at some point it stops.

Proveone 01-06-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2046509)
I went to Starbucks Trailwinds today.
Lobby was closed. New drive thru hours are until 3 pm and
closed on Thursday. I asked and it’s due to staffing shortages.
Oh and the prices went up again.

How are people NOT working??

Older people decided to retire early because of the pandemic. Younger people are taking their jobs or going to school to learn their skills. Unemployment applications are lowest in decades. Starbucks need to pay more and give better benefits to attract workers.

EdFNJ 01-06-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2046718)
Then why were we initially told that if you got vaccinated you were safe from GETTING covid?

Probably the same reason the world was in disbelief when they were told the earth was round not flat and not the center of the universe. It's called LEARNING and it comes from discovery and (sorry for the "S" word) Science. No one ever claimed science was 100% perfect.

Science (noun)
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
"the world of science and technology"

JMintzer 01-06-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2046743)
Older people decided to retire early because of the pandemic. Younger people are taking their jobs or going to school to learn their skills. Unemployment applications are lowest in decades. Starbucks need to pay more and give better benefits to attract workers.

You mean like these?

"According to Glassdoor, baristas at Starbucks typically make between $10 and $15 an hour. But hourly wages are hardly what makes this company so great to work for. Starbucks also offers healthcare benefits for both part- and full-time workers, along with 401(k) matching, and discounted stock options for company shares"...

oneclickplus 01-06-2022 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeyephan (Post 2046575)
It is interesting that the vaccinated don’t need to test even though they can still get the variant and pass it on. Several friends and family members have experienced this. So what good is all of this doing if the asymptomatic person handing me my latte has been vaxed and is wearing a cloth mask?

Since you asked ...

The vast majority of the sheeple are tone deaf to real scientific facts ... preferring statements from talking heads such as "pandemic of the unvaccinated" ... when we all now KNOW the vaccinated are acquiring the virus and spreading it to others whether they have symptoms or not. Just look at the fully vaccinated cruise ships being shut down. But, they love the division ... standing on their "holier than thou" towers and ****ing on those of us who choose to protect our health from the dangers of these mRNA shots. If the vaccines do anything to prevent acquisition or spread of the virus, why do the vaccinated (3 & 4 shots now) still have to wear a mask? The answer, of course, is that the vax'd can and DO spread the virus just as readily as the unvaxxed. It's not the sole domain of the unvaxxed. If you're vax'd, they say you have a better chance of not getting sick / hospitalized / dying and that appears to be true. But, getting vax'd does not stop any spreading.

Sure, an unvaccinated individual might be more likely to get sick / hospitalized. But, as a free American citizen, it is not my duty to take a treatment (shot) for something just because the hospitals are overflowing. Since it has been shown that the unvaccinated are NOT a threat to the vaccinated, staying unvaccinated is a simple personal medical decision.

The government liars and the media liars have been very successful in promoting the lie that the unvaccinated are the reason we still have covid. But, repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true. Last year, I read so many of you here anticipating that you will be *free* of masks and able to fully engage in life with no concerns at all and just salivating over the prospects of the unvaxxed not being able to eat out or take a cruise or many other things. How's that working out for you?

I laugh at the cities that have vax mandates in order to do just about anything. Why? Because in their ignorance, they limit attendance to only vaxxed people who will then spread covid only amongst themselves. It's like people shooting in a circle. In reality, they're keeping me out and safe - LOL

So, yes, that Starbucks latte made by a fully vaccinated individual who is infected but asymptomatic and wearing a mask may still come with a side of covid. Caution: contents may be HOT.

Rooklift 01-06-2022 09:30 AM

Not good. Very bad. Forcing vaccinations does not stop the spread of the virus. State your reason why and how this could be good and your anticipated outcome of forced vaccination.

cherylncliff 01-06-2022 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2046509)
I went to Starbucks Trailwinds today.
Lobby was closed. New drive thru hours are until 3 pm and
closed on Thursday. I asked and it’s due to staffing shortages.
Oh and the prices went up again.

How are people NOT working??

They are working, at better paying jobs.

B-flat 01-06-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 2046743)
Older people decided to retire early because of the pandemic. Younger people are taking their jobs or going to school to learn their skills. Unemployment applications are lowest in decades. Starbucks need to pay more and give better benefits to attract workers.

Sure give the employees even more money and benefits.........then instead of $5 for a cup of Mocha Bocha Carmel Latte it will be more like $8 to $10. That makes no sense

Cliff Fr 01-06-2022 09:45 AM

This is just my opinion and it's worth what you paid for it, lol. It appears to me that the latest variant is quite a bit less lethal. Tracking new cases is becoming like tracking new cases of the common cold.

jdulej 01-06-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooklift (Post 2046759)
Not good. Very bad. Forcing vaccinations does not stop the spread of the virus. State your reason why and how this could be good and your anticipated outcome of forced vaccination.

Not sure if you are referring to a specific post or not, but in general - no one is forcing anyone to get vaxed. Society has decided to encourage people to get vaxed because of the well understood benefits (despite the protests of several stable geniuses on this forum) of the vaccine. You are, however, given an out - you can get tested to "prove" that at some point you did not have the virus. For a long time, the gov and many businesses even footed the bill. Footing the bill is stopping, at least for testing, in come cases.

So, to summarize

A company is withing their rights to insist that all employees be vaxed or tested regularly.
A person can refuse to be vaxed and or tested if they chose.
If the company and the person cannot find common ground, they are free to part ways

"Common ground" might include "the company agrees to pay for testing" or in might not.

No one is forced to do anything.

Dana1963 01-06-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 2046763)
Sure give the employees even more money and benefits.........then instead of $5 for a cup of Mocha Bocha Carmel Latte it will be more like $8 to $10. That makes no sense

I personally think $5 is to much for cup of coffee

maistocars 01-06-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2046545)
Absolutely agree, especially for those who refuse to be vaccinated.

Yeah, we'll just ignore those outside studies such as the one from Ontario, Canada (83% of population is vaxxed) last week that showed over 70% of those hospitalized were vaxxed. Source below. Vitamins for me. Thanks for playing. Hospitalizations | COVID-19 (coronavirus) in Ontario

JMintzer 01-06-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 2046761)
They are working, at better paying jobs.

Where are these "better paying jobs"?

"According to Glassdoor, baristas at Starbucks typically make between $10 and $15 an hour. But hourly wages are hardly what makes this company so great to work for. Starbucks also offers healthcare benefits for both part- and full-time workers, along with 401(k) matching, and discounted stock options for company shares"...

JMintzer 01-06-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2046770)
Not sure if you are referring to a specific post or not, but in general - no one is forcing anyone to get vaxed. Society has decided to encourage people to get vaxed because of the well understood benefits (despite the protests of several stable geniuses on this forum) of the vaccine. You are, however, given an out - you can get tested to "prove" that at some point you did not have the virus. For a long time, the gov and many businesses even footed the bill. Footing the bill is stopping, at least for testing, in come cases.

So, to summarize

A company is withing their rights to insist that all employees be vaxed or tested regularly.
A person can refuse to be vaxed and or tested if they chose.
If the company and the person cannot find common ground, they are free to part ways

"Common ground" might include "the company agrees to pay for testing" or in might not.

No one is forced to do anything.

"Shirley" you jest...

mcwood4d 01-06-2022 11:23 AM

Starbucks has some of the lowest paying positions in the industry right now...(up north) people are going across the street to Dunkin and getting $18/hr PLUS benefits if over 30 hrs/wk. The company talks big about equity, fairness and fair trade but...you fill in the blanks.

Carlsondm 01-06-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2046610)
My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Just keep testing and isolating to protect those who can’t benefit from the vaccine. I respect your position. Just choose your options carefully and help us starve this virus family.

Petersweeney 01-06-2022 12:37 PM

Exactly
 
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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2046610)
My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Virtue signaling by those who got vaccinated….too dumb to know the real science-

Wyseguy 01-06-2022 12:58 PM

No Tests to be found
 
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2046529)
I think employees need to pay for testing too.

Good luck finding the tests. My Mom is in Assisted Living. Each week, before going in to see her, the front desk nurse would give me the 15 minute nose swab test. For the past three weeks I have had to bring a sealed box/test to the facility, where they did the test. They were unable to obtain them. I have been unable to find any as well.

Ruggiero56 01-06-2022 02:53 PM

Starbucks at Sumter Landing
 
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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2046509)
I went to Starbucks Trailwinds today.
Lobby was closed. New drive thru hours are until 3 pm and
closed on Thursday. I asked and it’s due to staffing shortages.
Oh and the prices went up again.

How are people NOT working??

Here’s one better —- Starbucks at Sumter Landing today has a sign: “New Hours: 5 am - 11 am”. Really - 11 am????? What a shame. Guess I’ll go to Dunkin’ from now on for coffee drinks.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeyephan (Post 2046575)
It is interesting that the vaccinated don’t need to test even though they can still get the variant and pass it on. Several friends and family members have experienced this. So what good is all of this doing if the asymptomatic person handing me my latte has been vaxed and is wearing a cloth mask?

I just keep in mind that being vaccinated and boosted along with a good immune system is all one needs to know to feel safe in this crazy world of Covid these days. The key, however, is having a good immune system and not a compromised immune system.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2046610)
My apology
I’m sorry that I’ve taken such good care of myself my whole life by eating properly and exercising, that I’m now a bad person because I’m not vaccinated. Unless someone can tell me THE LONG TERM AFFECTS.....YOU get the vaccine......I’ll stay healthy be no putting anything foreign in my body

Hit a bit of a nerve there, didn't I.

Lrrhcat 01-06-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2046629)
Simple. If you pay people to sit on their a$$es--don't be surprised if they do what you pay them to do.

Explain to me how they're getting paid to sit on their asses? Unemployment is maxed at $275 a week in Florida and you have to qualify. There hasn't been any extra unemployment money in Florida since June. So I'd like to know where you think "they're" (who's they're anyway?) getting money.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhighley (Post 2046633)
Because the vaccines are so effective… 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is CNN

The vaccines are effective at keeping people from being hospitalized. Most people hospitalized with Covid are UN-vaccinated. What is it going to take for people to understand what the vaccines are meant to do. These mRNA vaccines are not sterilizing vaccines which do prevent the spread of a disease. These vaccines were developed to keep people out of the hospital and to prevent most people from dying of Covid. They do what they were developed to do.

Maybe in the future there will be a sterilizing vaccine to prevent transmission of the virus. By the way......."sterilizing" does not mean sterilizing a human, it means sterilizing the virus.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2046660)
Vaccinations do not protect you from getting covid.

Absolutely correct. Give this person a cigar.

The vaccines protect you from dying (if you have a normal immune system).

coffeebean 01-06-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 2046661)
There's a bigger agenda here with this vaccine all one need do is read between the lines. You may want to read RFK Jrs. book on Fauci, Gates and Big Pharma. Holy mackerel it's an eye opener! Read about "Mass Formation Psychosis"too. To search for it you may not want to use Google instead use "DuckDuckGo"

No need to read any of that stuff. Just look at the numbers of people who are hospitalized with Covid. Most are UN-vaccinated. That is all everyone needs to know and realize that being vaccinated protects you from hospitalization and dying if you have a normal immune system.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2046693)
I don't patronize Starbucks because of their CEO's open border views

I do not agree with the CEO's open border views but I sure do love me some Starbucks!

coffeebean 01-06-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2046705)
Interesting that the failure of the vaccines is being blamed on the unvaccinated. 🤔

What makes you think the vaccines are a failure? Holy cow. The vaccine is designed to keep people from hospitalization and death for people with healthy immune systems. It is doing that in spades. Have you seen the numbers of people who are hospitalized and are UN-vaccinated? Those are the people who are glutting our health care facilities, NOT the vaccinated.

coffeebean 01-06-2022 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2046718)
Then why were we initially told that if you got vaccinated you were safe from GETTING covid?

Wasn't that what it was designed to do?

And btw, I've not only had covid (2 years ago), but I've had both my vax shots, plus a booster...

That is not what we were told at all. I distinctly remember finally being fully vaccinated and was totally relieved that I would not wind up in the hospital if I contracted Covid. I don't recall ever being informed that these mRNA vaccines would prevent transmission of Covid. Sterilizing vaccines prevent transmission of diseases and these mRNA vaccines are not that type of vaccine. I've know this all along. I guess it depends on your news sources.

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