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BrianL99 02-16-2024 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301802)
Let me fill in the pieces, his significant others family are executors and want him out.

His dog is a wonderful labra-doodle that loves everyone and other pets.

$500 is for rent only, remainder of ss will allow him to live.


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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301806)
Significant others family wants him out to sell house, they are executors


I guess if you find a Sugar Momma and are gambling that she'll out-live you, it's possible to get caught on the wrong side of the curve.

just an anecdotal observation, but if they lived together for 20 years and the recently deceased didn't do anything (like give him a life estate in the home), she wasn't that concerned about what would happen when she died.

LuvNH 02-16-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2301809)
I had a friend who allowed a woman to move into his house. She took care of him for years while he was sick. When he died, his son came to The Villages and threw her out immediately and sold the house. He wouldn't even give her a friendship ring that she had given to him. You need to put something in writing.

When I read your post I really thought you were talking about a friend of mine. She was a retired nurse, he was well fixed and asked her to move in with him as housekeeper/nurse and driver. She did. When he died she was leaving his funeral and found the police waiting to arrest her. His son had called the police and told them she had stolen from him. She was not even allowed to re-enter the house and get her belongings. The son threw her "stuff" out onto the front yard for her to pick up. She nursed the guy 5 years! So the kids got a live in nurse and housekeeper for zip.

Yes, I know, one born every minute.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2301822)
When I read your post I really thought you were talking about a friend of mine. She was a retired nurse, he was well fixed and asked her to move in with him as housekeeper/nurse and driver. She did. When he died she was leaving his funeral and found the police waiting to arrest her. His son had called the police and told them she had stolen from him. She was not even allowed to re-enter the house and get her belongings. The son threw her "stuff" out onto the front yard for her to pick up. She nursed the guy 5 years! So the kids got a live in nurse and housekeeper for zip.

Yes, I know, one born every minute.

I don't think it was your friend. But, I cannot understand why some people seem to think that their children are entitled to an inheritance even if they ignore their parents and treat them badly. I don't have children, but if I did, they would need to earn an inheritance, or I would leave my money to those who helped me in my later years.

Rainger99 02-16-2024 06:55 PM

People in that situation should have a discussion so that the significant other is provided for if the owner dies first.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 07:12 PM

I tried to help a woman whose live-in boyfriend would not move out. Eventually he became abusive but she had to go through hell and back to get him out of there before that. It seemed he had some rights. And he might have been paying her rent as well. Or part of it.

And another woman had to move out because her boyfriend owned the house where they both had been living, They split up and she had to get out.

Both of these situations were in or near the Villages.

Bjeanj 02-16-2024 08:36 PM

Happened to man a few houses down from us a few years ago. He suddenly died, and his SO was unceremoniously kicked out of the house by his kids. She was so distraught. Nothing to be done.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 09:14 PM

If a reverse mortgage is involved this not much you can do if you are a surviving kid, significant other, etc. But I am not a Family Law nor Estate Attorney nor licensed in Florida.

Neighbor had to get out when both her parents had died. They had had a reverse mortgage. And the daughter did not have enough money nor the desire to buy the house.

She found a place not too far from the Villages though.

Papa_lecki 02-16-2024 09:16 PM

Florida does not recognize common-law marriages that have been established within the state after January 1, 1968. This means that if a couple meets the general conditions for a common-law marriage but has never been ceremonially married, Florida law does not consider them legally married.

Randall55 02-16-2024 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2301826)
People in that situation should have a discussion so that the significant other is provided for if the owner dies first.

Sad. All they had to do was change the title on the home. Both could be listed as single. Fees for doing this are small. No matter how much money the man has or doesn't has, he paid for a portion of the bills. Twenty years ago, homes were much cheaper. He could have been paying 50% of the bills. After 10 or 15 yrs together, they should have made better decisions.

Number 10 GI 02-16-2024 10:29 PM

Beware of letting someone rent a room in your home. In many states you can't evict the person if they fail to pay their rent without a lot of legal action and even then, it can take months to get them out. I'm not sure about Florida so it would behoove a person to check the local and state laws.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2301868)
Beware of letting someone rent a room in your home. In many states you can't evict the person if they fail to pay their rent without a lot of legal action and even then, it can take months to get them out. I'm not sure about Florida so it would behoove a person to check the local and state laws.

Good advice.

Florida Rental Lease Agreement Template [2024] | PDF & DOC I did find this but you should check with a licensed FL attorney.

Debra Freeman 02-17-2024 04:28 AM

Put all the pertinent facts such as whose name is house in etc. By the way if me is paying tent or not, one must file for an Ejection,

There are also stiff laws regarding exploitation of the elderly as well as mistreatment.

PersonOfInterest 02-17-2024 05:21 AM

Being in a long term relationship without marriage and not having any legal agreement between them was obviously not wise. You would think that those who choose a relationship without marriage would want to protect each other well being. A property agreement or drafting wills with respect of each other is not that difficult. On the other hand the relationship may have been very non-committal and in that case each would have no connection to the other's assets. Its sad that many people do not understand the complex legal system that our society imposes.

GizmoWhiskers 02-17-2024 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.


If the kids try to immediately boot him someone should aid him, ready to dial the police to report elderly abuse. He does have 30 days to vacate even if there is no lease by law in FL.

The man needs a lawyer comes to mind if they try to immediately boot him out on day one after death of partner. They have to evict him through court system in FL if he fails to vacate in 30 days. It is against the law to "change the locks" or remove a front door to keep him out. He legally has 30 days.

gradnjw 02-17-2024 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301738)
What resources will help 84 yr old man, with dog, After death of significant other dies, family wants him out by March, that will house him and dog for $500 month,

Your Key to Senior Living Options, +1 (352) 446-5749

They provide a free service to help individuals assess and secure necessary services in living options. Lisa Honka and her team are dedicated professionals who I’ve worked with in the past. it’s a local company. Good luck.


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