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Bogie Shooter 07-13-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoosierb4 (Post 1664021)
It's interesting that the developer is reimbursed by the county for "regional roadway segments". If these segments weren't needed without the additional developments, then the cost should probably be borne by the developer, rather than being reimbursed by everyone who pays taxes in the county. Without having knowledge of all the details, it's hard to form a strong opinion....but, I would be inclined to vote against approving anything that wouldn't be covered by revenue from the new tax base created by the development.

See post #39.

twoplanekid 07-13-2019 07:11 PM

The Village District staff will probably tell you to attend a Sumter County board meeting to ask the question as it’s a county issue.

cegallup 07-15-2019 03:31 AM

Sumter tax increase proposal.
 
This is how it starts - everywhere. When any entity, business, state / local / federal government sees a dramatic increase in revenue, THEY WILL ADJUST TO THIS CONDITION. I'm not saying that Sumter might not need expansion money, BUT as has been stated before, The Villages growth has infused large amounts into the Sumter coffers. We DO NOT need "Mercedes" fire engines.

Rwirish 07-15-2019 05:56 AM

Taxes
 
25% increase is ridiculous.

Not all pay lower taxes in TV. Our taxes are higher then they were in Ohio.

Sunflower33 07-15-2019 06:37 AM

Maybe they should speak to the residents. Most of us are retired where do they think we are getting this money. I didn’t get a 25% increase in my social security check. I’m shocked they would do this. Aren’t they getting enough from all the houses the Morse’s continue to build

Bogie Shooter 07-15-2019 06:47 AM

How about that big income tax reduction?

merrymini 07-15-2019 07:02 AM

A shocking number for an increase under any circumstances. I come from a high tax state (New Jersey) so almost any other state’s real estate tax would be better then mine.

Arrachme 07-15-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1663748)
We are in our 13 year in TV and Sumter County. Frankly, I’ve been wondering when our property real estate tax would go in a different direction. Taxes have been going lower almost every year. It’s been too good to be sustainable. One thought to remember. Commissioners live in Sumter County too. That means their taxes will go up just the same as the rest of the residents of Sumter County. They will, like in the past, be very prudent about how much to raise taxes on us and themselves. It won’t be close to 25% IMHO.

I have one home that the taxes have gone up 4 times in 7 years. 25% each time. No decrease has ever happened. Where is your home that you saw a decrease????

dennisgavin 07-15-2019 07:37 AM

I think the increase is for snow removal....;o)
OK, now that I have that out of my system I will read the link!

skip0358 07-15-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cegallup (Post 1664251)
This is how it starts - everywhere. When any entity, business, state / local / federal government sees a dramatic increase in revenue, THEY WILL ADJUST TO THIS CONDITION. I'm not saying that Sumter might not need expansion money, BUT as has been stated before, The Villages growth has infused large amounts into the Sumter coffers. We DO NOT need "Mercedes" fire engines.

What Mercedes Fire Engines?

dmorhome 07-15-2019 08:42 AM

If they raise it 25 percent see you later
For sale

Navy (SSBN 633) 07-15-2019 09:04 AM

Folks not trying to be wise but as you know these commissioners work for us, WE the people. Pleasseee take a few minutes to launch them an Email blast (and yes I sent one to each commissioner over weekend, one actually wrote me back on Sunday). Tell them 25% is totally UNACCEPTABLE and do your job for fiscal constraint. CUT...CUT...CUT

dmorhome 07-15-2019 09:07 AM

No add to schools,we pay for trash and fire dept looks like greed to me.

dkhughes 07-15-2019 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SB8476 (Post 1663734)
Did anyone catch on page C4 of the Daily Sun the article regarding Sumter County increasing this years property taxes by 25%? Maybe they should not have asked the developer to continue building south of 44.

I called the County office and she promptly sent me an email with the current and proposed budget for Sumter County. Maybe I didn’t read it correctly but I didn’t see a 25% increase. Call them and ask for the information. 352-689-4400

emb2458 07-15-2019 09:28 AM

I object to the amount seniors have to pay for School Tax We have paid school taxes all of our adult life. Time to give seniors a School Tax Exemption percentage like the Homestead exemption. We live on a retirement budget now. If we are lucky to get an increase in retirement income, it goes to the increases of cost of living. Cost of living is always more than income increase. Please to those who disagree. Where is all the lottery money going?

cjmae 07-15-2019 09:33 AM

Thank You toplanekid

dewilson58 07-15-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by emb2458 (Post 1664341)
I object to the amount seniors have to pay for School Tax We have paid school taxes all of our adult life. Time to give seniors a School Tax Exemption percentage like the Homestead exemption. We live on a retirement budget now. If we are lucky to get an increase in retirement income, it goes to the increases of cost of living. Cost of living is always more than income increase. Please to those who disagree. Where is all the lottery money going?




That will never happen. (never say never)


Besides, schools can use all the funding they can get......need to increase teacher pay for sure.

Ben Franklin 07-15-2019 09:53 AM

Impact fees
 
We recently moved from Lee County, because the Commissioners lowered the impact fees, which caused our taxes to go up. Impact fees are collected on new homebuyers for the added needs of the county, such as roads, schools, parks, jails, ambulances and other infrastructure.

I haven't looked into it yet, but was wondering if Sumter county collects 100% of these fees, otherwise we all pay for the new arrivals demands on our infrastructure.

JSR22 07-15-2019 10:05 AM

Disagree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emb2458 (Post 1664341)
I object to the amount seniors have to pay for School Tax We have paid school taxes all of our adult life. Time to give seniors a School Tax Exemption percentage like the Homestead exemption. We live on a retirement budget now. If we are lucky to get an increase in retirement income, it goes to the increases of cost of living. Cost of living is always more than income increase. Please to those who disagree. Where is all the lottery money going?

All homeowners should pay school taxes. When your kids were in school everyone paid property taxes to the school whether they had children attending or not. The schools do NOt get enough funding in FL. The students in Fruitland Park are in trailers! If anything is to be increased in the budget it should be money for schools.

twoplanekid 07-15-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dkhughes (Post 1664340)
I called the County office and she promptly sent me an email with the current and proposed budget for Sumter County. Maybe I didn’t read it correctly but I didn’t see a 25% increase. Call them and ask for the information. 352-689-4400

found on page 8 -> https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Agend...4?fileID=33700

newgirl 07-15-2019 10:11 AM

I am amazed they can do this, property taxes were capped at 5 percent a year max in Mi. 25 percent in a retirement area is outrageous. Many live on social security here.

Navy (SSBN 633) 07-15-2019 10:46 AM

here is the web site with their email links....click their names and let them know this is unacceptable:

About the Commissioners | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

Bogie Shooter 07-15-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dmorhome (Post 1664318)
If they raise it 25 percent see you later
For sale

Assume you will sell for what you paid, right?

Ronlynch@comcast.net 07-15-2019 10:59 AM

Appears Sumter County is learning from other parts of the US i.e. NJ increased the gas tax by 25 cents per gallon without a referendum by the residents. A number of other States, Counties and Municipalities have the authority to impose increases on any number of services and taxes almost at will. There is no quantitative justification for the significant increase in millage rate from 2019 to 2020. I agree with a number of other comments, this appears to be a typical Bait and Switch Tactic that should not be dismissed lightly by our residents. As an aside, we have a corner lot in The Villages and between The Villages mandatory set back and Sumter County mandatory set back, we lose control on > 30% of our land area but pay the full land area value in taxes.

funtime 07-15-2019 11:56 AM

Hi Folks The overall increase that they are requesting is 23.8%, They give a breakdown for averge increase, for example on a 300K assessed value home the increase will be $409.05, if you can claim the $50k homestead exemption your increase on that same home would be $340.88. The main reason, although they state 6 reasons for the increase, is the expansion of the villages. They claim SC has the highest average age in the nation, which is demanding more resources. I think it is hard to realize that the villages expansions will cost us more money. At least we can put a price tag on the expansion past 44.

Aw Man 07-15-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dmorhome (Post 1664318)
If they raise it 25 percent see you later
For sale

Seriously?
We are not talking about huge amounts of money here.
The proposed new millage rate of 6.7 would represent a $341 increase to total annual tax bill on a home assessed at $300,000.
That's an increase of $28 to a monthly budget.
You would spend $20,000 to $30,000 in non-recoverable closing costs alone to sell and buy elsewhere.
Moving because of this proposed property tax increase makes no financial sense at all.
Also, you should be aware that this proposed 6.7 millage rate is only 5.5% of the 6.35 millage rate we were paying in 2012!
I think we've been getting, and still are getting, a good deal on property taxes in Sumter County.

njholt 07-15-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SB8476 (Post 1663734)
Did anyone catch on page C4 of the Daily Sun the article regarding Sumter County increasing this years property taxes by 25%? Maybe they should not have asked the developer to continue building south of 44.

I don't think we'll ever see the villages stop growing, sad.

ILIKESAILING 07-15-2019 01:37 PM

A part of the Progressive Planning calls for increases in property taxes as planned in Agenda-21 of the United Nations.

It is illegal under Article I, Sec. 10, 4th and the 14th Amendments.

We must express our demand for local government to STOP.

Sincerely,

Robert G. Deardorff, B.S., M.B.A., J.D.
904-302-2114
Email: rgd53@hotmail.com

jrieker68 07-15-2019 02:26 PM

It appears you came from New Jersey which has the highest property taxes in the Country, so of course you're okay with the taxes. Florida is in the middle and I myself am happy to stay where it's at. Moved here from Manatee County, FL and my taxes are $400 higher for the same size house with a much smaller yard, ie less acreage.

graciegirl 07-15-2019 02:42 PM

It won't be even close and several of you are getting your knickers in a hitch for nothing.

Wait and see.

Jersey Joe 07-15-2019 03:08 PM

Sumter Ciounty 25% Tax Increse
 
This is outrages to increase taxes that much in one year. We didn't ask the villages to expand as much as they done in Sumter County. They are getting greedy and the commissioner need to be voted out. What extra perks are they looking for to justify this increase in taxes. We need to speak against this at the commissioner meeting. :bigbow:

Aw Man 07-15-2019 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Joe (Post 1664448)
This is outrages to increase taxes that much in one year. We didn't ask the villages to expand as much as they done in Sumter County. They are getting greedy and the commissioner need to be voted out. What extra perks are they looking for to justify this increase in taxes. We need to speak against this at the commissioner meeting. :bigbow:

The Sumter County property tax rate has gone DOWN each of the last 6 years.

The current proposed property tax rate represents ONLY a 5.5% increase of the rate we were paying in 2012!

How can anyone possibly complain about this??

And I’m sure the proposed tax rate will go down somewhat by the time it’s approved in September.

Common sense says to be satisfied with what we’ve had and have here in Sumter County.

Chatbrat 07-15-2019 06:01 PM

Don't sweat the tax increase, get a piece of cardboard & hang out by an overpass on I 75 and beg for $$ to pay your taxes in The Villages--people will, laugh @ you

If you moved here & have to square root every penny, you've moved to the wrong place

Its harsh, but IMHO, its accurate

Skunky1 07-15-2019 06:32 PM

They should be giving us money back considering the amount of Agricultural land I was turning into residential revenue.

tophcfa 07-15-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aw Man (Post 1664477)
The Sumter County property tax rate has gone DOWN each of the last 6 years.

The current proposed property tax rate represents ONLY a 5.5% increase of the rate we were paying in 2012!

How can anyone possibly complain about this??

And I’m sure the proposed tax rate will go down somewhat by the time it’s approved in September.

Common sense says to be satisfied with what we’ve had and have here in Sumter County.

Tell that to someone who just closed on their home and is now faced with seeing their first tax bill increased by 25%!

tophcfa 07-15-2019 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 1664355)
I am amazed they can do this, property taxes were capped at 5 percent a year max in Mi. 25 percent in a retirement area is outrageous. Many live on social security here.

I agree, in Massachusetts there is something called proposition 2 1/2 that limits annal property tax increases to 2.5%. The only way to go above the 2.5% is with an override vote (voted on by the actual taxpayers), which is very difficult to pass.

New Englander 07-15-2019 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aw Man (Post 1664477)
The Sumter County property tax rate has gone DOWN each of the last 6 years.

The current proposed property tax rate represents ONLY a 5.5% increase of the rate we were paying in 2012!

How can anyone possibly complain about this??

And I’m sure the proposed tax rate will go down somewhat by the time it’s approved in September.

Common sense says to be satisfied with what we’ve had and have here in Sumter County.

I feel the same way. I don't think it will be that much. :pray:

bluecenturian 07-15-2019 08:26 PM

This appears to be a quick way for the county government to get extra money because in lake and Marion counties they are paying a lot more. Sumter feels they can just increase because adjoining counties are higher. We need to all come out to the budget hearings and budget meetings and make our voices heard. I line by line comparison of what is being requested is an absolute. And the county members need to be reminded that we all vote and if they are not doing what’s best for us then we will vote them out.

twoplanekid 07-15-2019 08:40 PM

Please view my post # 16 to follow the links and then be able to see some line by line comparisons as presented by Sumter County

manaboutown 07-15-2019 09:31 PM

Theft!


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