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George Page 09-30-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2010172)
Yeah, lets revisit your feelings after you have lived here through a snowbird season.....

The fact is:
No Snowbirds, No Villages

JoeinFL 09-30-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010171)
As a newbie to The Villages, several of my neighbors have done a great job by providing me with advice on all aspects of living here. Strangely to me, one of my neighbors also warned me to be careful in the coming months when the influx of snowbirds come down to The Villages and overtake the area.

That statement appeared wrong to me as I told my neighbor that we should welcome back the snowbirds as they bring money, jobs and excitement to The Villages. Snowbirds are sometimes wealthier than the typical full-time Villager as many snowbirds own more than one home and spend their money here. These snowbirds also pay year-round taxes and Villages fees although many only live here part-time. Also, the rental fee's some snowbirds pay will cover the entire yearly cost of the mortgage payment for some homeowners.

Although I welcome the Snowbirds, my neighbor appeared upset and refused to understand that snowbirds bring prosperity to The Villages and makes The Villages a better place to live year round.

Welcome to The friendliest hometown. :)

JMintzer 09-30-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2010814)
I doubt many dislike the people who come to live in their homes during the high season, just the crowdedness, the lines, the stuff that happens when you add a lot of people to any place. It is all over Florida.

It is nice to have not as much traffic, not so many people at the restaurants and grocery stores etc.

The only snowbirds who I am not a fan of are people who do not "own" here and who come to rent seasonally and some of them don't much care whether they toss trash out or other little things that people do when they have no vested financial interest or personal connection to a place. Certainly not all or even a majority. Just a few I would like to bop with a rolled up paper.

So all of the recent "people leaving their trash everywhere" threads were just early Snowbirds and renters, arriving in September?

JoeinFL 09-30-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2010680)
So let’s summarize how wonderful snowbirds are as pointed out by posters throughout this thread. Not only do they pay property taxes, they pay more property taxes because of no homestead exemption. They also pay amenity fees year round but only use the amenities part time. They pay for trash removal year round even though they produce no trash for a good portion of the year, effectively subsidizing the full time residents rates. The same goes for base water and sewer rates, which are paid year round regardless of use. The birds also are extremely helpful to the local economy during their absence by hiring various services to maintain their properties. And of course, if the birds didn’t migrate north during the warmer months, the villages would be ā€œbusy seasonā€ year round. And as one wise poster pointed out, many seasonal residents are younger and drive hundreds, if not thousands of miles to get to and from the Villages and are on average better drivers than the folks that like to complain about their driving. All in all the Snowbirds appear to be the geese that lay the golden eggs, not the rotten eggs. Long live the birds : )

Please don’t post rational thoughts on this forum. Snarky, rude comments are much more fitting. Lol
(Sarcasm of course)

Laker14 09-30-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2010720)
I agree with all of that EXCEPT the part of being "better drivers". Most of the really, really stupid driving I've witnessed in the last 7 years are cars with out of state plates, which probably also means the same for the golf carts they drive. Driving a thousand miles on an interstate (probably in the left lane at 50 mph:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:) does not make anyone better at navigating a RB or driving a cart across the Morse Blvd. bridge. People simply bring whatever driving skills (or lack thereof) that they have with them. And not everyone drives here from up north----note the steady increase in car carrier sightings over the next few months. The two scariest sights driving in TV IMHO are:
1) Driving in a RB and seeing a vehicle with out of state handicapped plates about to enter
2) Driving a cart on the Morse Blvd. bridge and seeing a cart with a rental number approaching from the opposite direction:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Yeah, except....some snowbirds have been snowbirding for years and years. I think they are pretty familiar with the way the roundabouts work. You may be confusing snowbirds with newbies, or visitors.

coffeebean 09-30-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2010264)
So you would be very happy if all the snowbirds became full time, and then you could experience high season All Year Long.:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2: Just because snowbirds own more than one home, doesn’t make them a bad person, they just like different landscape out their windows, and can afford to do so.

We were seasonal residents for several years before moving here full time and selling our NJ home. It wasn't the landscape out of our window that drew us here for the winter months, it was the weather. I was so glad to leave the snow and ice behind for those winters. Now I never have to deal with those miserable winters unless we visit for the holidays.

Spsmith444 09-30-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2010234)
Also remember that most snowbirds can't file for homestead exceptions and they pay real estate taxes proportionally higher than the full time Villager.

On my block, there are two exact homes and valued basically the same. Last year house # 1 owned by a Floridan who took advantage of "save our homes" taxes payed $ 4915 & the exact same home but owned by a fellow mate from Pennsylvania paid $7844 in real estate taxes. The unfortunate thing is the mate from PA only lives here part time.

So once again, thank you snowbirds.

We need to get the tax structure changed based on how many months your there. 12 months - full taxes, 6 months 1/2 taxes, etc. šŸ˜‰

coffeebean 09-30-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VickiF (Post 2010373)
We’ll be full times soon too. What are the off hours? I’d like to do the same. Thanks!

We usually dine in the afternoon (around 3:00) rather than in the evening. We call it "Lundin" which is a combination of lunch and dinner. If we don't do Lundin, then we have an early lunch which is our main meal of the day.

We sound old, don't we? Anyway......that is the way to beat the crowds in the restaurants. We dine at these times all year round, not just during the busy season here. Actually, come to think of it, we dined at these times before we moved to The Villages. We do not like having to wait for a table in a restaurant.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-30-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2010814)
I doubt many dislike the people who come to live in their homes during the high season, just the crowdedness, the lines, the stuff that happens when you add a lot of people to any place. It is all over Florida.

It is nice to have not as much traffic, not so many people at the restaurants and grocery stores etc.

The only snowbirds who I am not a fan of are people who do not "own" here and who come to rent seasonally and some of them don't much care whether they toss trash out or other little things that people do when they have no vested financial interest or personal connection to a place. Certainly not all or even a majority. Just a few I would like to bop with a rolled up paper.

So you're okay with people who live here all year round and "own" here, and toss their trash out or other little things that people do when they don't care about what you think?

I have no particular interest or disinterest in snowbirds. I don't thank them or curse them. They're people who live here sometimes, whether they rent or own. As long as the property isn't overgrown with weeds on a regular basis, there's no obvious major disrepair, any "garden decorations" they have are also in good repair (not tipped over or covered with mold or cracked in half, for example), and their tree branches aren't hovering over the street (which is a hurricane risk), it's mostly just nitpicking.

I also take issue with the guy who hangs his American flag upside down, on purpose, all year round - lets it get shabby and tattered - and has HUGE political signs that he drew in black magic marker and displays to the street-side against his lanai window. Even if the signs were professionally made and said "I'm FOR this guy" I'd be - well - I disagree but whatever floats your boat.

But no - he has to be sloppy, and is not "for" someone, he's "ANTI" someone. It is degrading to the entire neighborhood. At least he took the toilet off his driveway after the election.

coffeebean 09-30-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2010380)
Another group of people complaining about me returning to MY home. So what if I'm not there all the time. I pay my expenses on my home ALL year, taxes, amenity fees, yard and home maintenance cost.

No complaints from me. Been there. Done that. I never let it bother me when people complained about the seasonal influx of people in The Villages. They will get over it, every April. LOL.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-30-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2010936)
No complaints from me. Been there. Done that. I never let it bother me when people complained about the seasonal influx of people in The Villages. They will get over it, every April. LOL.

I grew up in a suburb where the commercial district was always lousy with traffic, and at the end of the main trio of strip-malls was our high school. Our friends lived behind the strip-mall area so we had to walk up this steep hill on the side of the parking lot to get to their apartments, or down a secondary main road to get to other friends' houses. I also lived in Boston for 7 years.

So crowds and "town traffic" doesn't bother me all that much. Highway and big state/county road traffic does bother me (like 441, 466, roads with 2-3 lanes in either direction plus turn lanes, similar to the Berlin Tpke or the Boston Post Road in Connecticut). That kind of traffic is bad all year round though, it doesn't seem any worse or better with the change of snowbird season.

coffeebean 09-30-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2010489)
Just be REALLY CAREFUL IN THE ROUNDABOUTS for the next month, then double that in January when the renters come down. If you use AT&T for cell service, get used to a couple of hours for voicemail to show up, and don’t mind the dropped calls. But you are right, the snowflakes and snowbirds are an asset to our community.

Sounds like AT&T needs some more towers around here. Glad we don't use their service.

coffeebean 09-30-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Rose (Post 2010661)
We started off as snowbirds and are now frogs and we have never been happier. Don't mind the snowbirds at all and love being here year round. Don't mind the heat nor humidity because we have pools and central air everywhere we go. Our expenses are way less and we don't have the headaches of owning 2 homes. Restaurants too busy at dinnertime in season? Then go out for Iunch instead. Grocery stores extra busy? Then shop early morning. There are ways to get around the busier times. Most of all, enjoy your time here with the snowbirds. They tend to be jollier because they feel that they are on vacation when they're here and want to make the most of it.

I have always done grocery shopping early in the morning, everywhere I have ever resided. It is always less crowded in the mornings. I have always avoided crowds and it has worked for me.

graciegirl 09-30-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2010924)
So you're okay with people who live here all year round and "own" here, and toss their trash out or other little things that people do when they don't care about what you think?

I have no particular interest or disinterest in snowbirds. I don't thank them or curse them. They're people who live here sometimes, whether they rent or own. As long as the property isn't overgrown with weeds on a regular basis, there's no obvious major disrepair, any "garden decorations" they have are also in good repair (not tipped over or covered with mold or cracked in half, for example), and their tree branches aren't hovering over the street (which is a hurricane risk), it's mostly just nitpicking.

I also take issue with the guy who hangs his American flag upside down, on purpose, all year round - lets it get shabby and tattered - and has HUGE political signs that he drew in black magic marker and displays to the street-side against his lanai window. Even if the signs were professionally made and said "I'm FOR this guy" I'd be - well - I disagree but whatever floats your boat.

But no - he has to be sloppy, and is not "for" someone, he's "ANTI" someone. It is degrading to the entire neighborhood. At least he took the toilet off his driveway after the election.

I am NOT for anyone throwing their trash out. I think fewer people with a "vested interest", people who own here and live here all year or seasonally, do things like that.

If someone had an offense that was reportable, like a toilet in a driveway that was in some way not there for a purpose like contract workers, I would report them. I don't like weeds either or a bunch of yard art or other things that are deed restrictions.

Like most people here, we are fine with no Political displays of any kind. Not even those that slide by the restriction. Most of us vote the same . Four out of six anyway.

I do know of several documented cases of snowbirds who have cooked at home. Most of them are delightful human beings but they add bodies to the mix. Then we become as crowded as the rest of Florida. They are legally and morally allowed to be here and being a card carrying Ohio native, I will always use my good manners with them, even if I WANT to remind them that they shouldn't throw their damned coffee cups out the side of their white rented golf cart and onto our beautiful cart paths. I will never say a thing. Nope. I'm a nice lady.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-30-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2010946)
I am NOT for anyone throwing their trash out. I think fewer people with a "vested interest", people who own here and live here all year or seasonally, do things like that.

If someone had an offense that was reportable, like a toilet in a driveway that was in some way not there for a purpose like contract workers, I would report them. I don't like weeds either or a bunch of yard art or other things that are deed restrictions.

Like most people here, we are fine with no Political displays of any kind. Not even those that slide by the restriction. Most of us vote the same . Four out of six anyway.

I do know of several documented cases of snowbirds who have cooked at home. Most of them are delightful human beings but they add bodies to the mix. Then we become as crowded as the rest of Florida. They are legally and morally allowed to be here and being a card carrying Ohio native, I will always use my good manners with them, even if I WANT to remind them that they shouldn't throw their damned coffee cups out the side of their white rented golf cart and onto our beautiful cart paths. I will never say a thing. Nope. I'm a nice lady.

That's not being "a nice lady." That's being passive-aggressive. You see something that's not only illegal, but personally offensive, and instead of saying something, you give them permission to continue doing it (with your silence) and then come here and complain about it.

That's passive-aggression. Not "nice."


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