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VApeople 10-29-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1312467)
On another thread in the past, one poster even suggested carrying a pistol when walking for protection from dogs or coyotes or whatever.

Here is a story about a guy who shot a dog in a park near to where we used to live. According to the story, the dog was a 50-lb lab not on a leash.

MORE: Authorities say man acted in self-defense when shooting 11-month-old puppy | LoudounTimes.com

outlaw 10-30-2016 07:26 AM

I'm still shocked that an owner of two dogs is "afraid of dogs"! And the humane way to handle an aggressive dog is to immediately lay down on the ground and roll over on your back with your hands and feet slightly above you. This is the universal dog language for "Hi, I'm non-threatening, and want to be your friend". I have used this technique many times and it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.

Railcruiser 10-30-2016 07:48 AM

I am afraid of strangers dogs that are loose to be clear. My dogs are not angels they are trained . I was too busy hanging my small dog in the air to protect it to lay down on the ground. Maybe if this occurred to me it might've worked.
The attacked was very upsetting/traumatic for me and my dogs . Someone did report it but again with no broken skin hopefully they just spoke to the woman. Regardless of the drama I feel bad for her too. like me she will probably never feel completely comfortable with her dog either again just makes me sad

Two Bills 10-30-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1312711)
I'm still shocked that an owner of two dogs is "afraid of dogs"! And the humane way to handle an aggressive dog is to immediately lay down on the ground and roll over on your back with your hands and feet slightly above you. This is the universal dog language for "Hi, I'm non-threatening, and want to be your friend". I have used this technique many times and it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.

It is the 3 from ten that worries me!

Retiring 10-30-2016 12:04 PM

I used to carry a Dazer when I used to run, never had to use it. When you push the button you don’t hear anything, the frequency is for dogs only. Apparently, to a dog it sounds like nails on a chalkboard to us.


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graciegirl 10-30-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcruiser (Post 1312723)
I am afraid of strangers dogs that are loose to be clear. My dogs are not angels they are trained . I was too busy hanging my small dog in the air to protect it to lay down on the ground. Maybe if this occurred to me it might've worked.
The attacked was very upsetting/traumatic for me and my dogs . Someone did report it but again with no broken skin hopefully they just spoke to the woman. Regardless of the drama I feel bad for her too. like me she will probably never feel completely comfortable with her dog either again just makes me sad

You know. YOU are a very thoughtful person. If only the world had more like you. I love almost all dogs and I hate to hear when owners don't leash them. They like us humans can be unpredictable. I am saddened by folks who are afraid of dogs and really dislike, even hate all of them. I don't own a dog, two cats own us, but I have rarely met a dog that didn't make me smile.

Carl in Tampa 10-30-2016 04:19 PM

Lie down, roll over, play dead.....
 
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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1312711)
I'm still shocked that an owner of two dogs is "afraid of dogs"! And the humane way to handle an aggressive dog is to immediately lay down on the ground and roll over on your back with your hands and feet slightly above you. This is the universal dog language for "Hi, I'm non-threatening, and want to be your friend". I have used this technique many times and it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.

Thanks for explaining the humane response to an aggressive dog.

It is also known as potential suicide since the dominant dog often establishes dominance by biting the neck of the dog lying on its back. :ohdear:

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Polar Bear 10-30-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1312711)
...it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.

And my lottery ticket works 100% 1 out of a billion times. :)

RickeyD 10-30-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1312711)
I'm still shocked that an owner of two dogs is "afraid of dogs"! And the humane way to handle an aggressive dog is to immediately lay down on the ground and roll over on your back with your hands and feet slightly above you. This is the universal dog language for "Hi, I'm non-threatening, and want to be your friend". I have used this technique many times and it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.


I would pay to see you do this. But, only the 30% part. :evil6:

CFrance 10-30-2016 08:59 PM

Many people claim to know what they would/you should have done. They weren't there, and there is no telling what anyone would do if a surprise like this happened. There's little time for thought.

I'm a dog lover (obviously) who has seen a few aggressive dogs. I've seen people who can't control their dogs, and I know how strong my younger dog is and thank my lucky stars he is a lover, not a fighter. I have to vote with the LEOs on this thread. At least two of them are dog lovers, and they've also had job experience in this area.

73Goat 10-31-2016 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Railcruiser (Post 1311093)
I'm totally in shock and I feel sick to my stomach . I totally didn't realize she didn't have the dog on a leash at the time. I don't think I could sue anybody. Well, it would really have to be something blatant . I have to believe that her non-action was a little bit a shock on her part. I still can't get over that my Ellie would be gone right now. I'm proud of me too . as afraid as I am of dogs that I could protect Them.

If what you say is accurate (and you appear to have witnesses as well) I can't think of anything much more blatant than what you describe, especially if the owner did nothing to stop the attack and you suffered injury.

If you are shy about suing because it will look like you're just after money, think of it this way. By taking action you will be helping the next person avoid being attacked. I suspect that a police citation will not discourage a person like that from letting her animals off the leash, all she will do is change the location of the 'walk' for her dogs. If you don't take action that will keep her from doing so you are asking to have another person, or set of pets attacked. The next person may not get off with just some minor injuries and a couple of frightened pets. The next person may lose a pet or be seriously injured. For their sake contact a personal injury lawyer and discuss with them what recourse you have.

I can guarantee you that, if it was my wife/pet that was subjected to this, a lawsuit is the very least that owner/animal would be subjected to. No one should have to be subjected to by an animal not under the control of it's 'owner'.

outlaw 10-31-2016 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1313004)
Thanks for explaining the humane response to an aggressive dog.

It is also known as potential suicide since the dominant dog often establishes dominance by biting the neck of the dog lying on its back. :ohdear:

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Yes. But it's a playful bite.

73Goat 10-31-2016 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1312711)
I'm still shocked that an owner of two dogs is "afraid of dogs"! And the humane way to handle an aggressive dog is to immediately lay down on the ground and roll over on your back with your hands and feet slightly above you. This is the universal dog language for "Hi, I'm non-threatening, and want to be your friend". I have used this technique many times and it works 100% 7 out of 10 times.

At first I was a little incensed by your advice, until I got to the "works 100% 7 out of 10 times' part. It made me wonder if you were joking when you posted this?

I'm not shocked at all that this person can be 'afraid' of dogs while having small dog pets. While I have no 'fear' of dogs in general I would most definitely be 'afraid' of a large dog on the loose attacking my Bichon (and me). I'm fairly certain that I would NEVER follow your advice to stave off a dog attack. My wife loves small dogs and we have had many over the course of our lives together, but she absolutely is afraid of large dogs.

I'm really curious to know what happened in the 3 times it 'didn't work 100%'? and I'm curious to know how many aggressive dogs you've encountered to test your hypothesis.

73Goat 10-31-2016 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1313188)
Yes. But it's a playful bite.


There is another 'dominance' behavior would be far more humiliating -- it involves the 'dominant' dog cementing his 'dominance' in the pack order by simulating sex with the 'submissive' dog, regardless of their sex.

outlaw 10-31-2016 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 73Goat (Post 1313197)
There is another 'dominance' behavior would be far more humiliating -- it involves the 'dominant' dog cementing his 'dominance' in the pack order by simulating sex with the 'submissive' dog, regardless of their sex.

Yes. That can be awkward at times. I never said my tactic was perfect.


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