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Polar Bear 10-31-2016 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1313660)
The two groups are not that different.

A person could have perfect verbal control over their dog, but if they let their dog off a leash they are showing a complete disregard for the rules and have no respect for their neighbors.

The two groups ARE that different. You've demonstrated my point exactly!!

Just because a person has "perfect verbal control over their dog", doesn't mean they will automatically disregard the rules. Those people are the group that are responsible pet owners and will most likely obey the rules.

Your post is a perfect example of why dog owners who control of their dogs often feel disrespected...they (we) are grouped in with those who don't follow the rules.

VApeople 11-01-2016 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1313671)
Your post is a perfect example of why dog owners who control of their dogs often feel disrespected...they (we) are grouped in with those who don't follow the rules.

You are correct.

We respect dog owners who keep their dogs on a leash.

We definitely do not respect dog owners who do not keep their dogs on a leash.

ColdNoMore 11-01-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1313753)
You are correct.

We respect dog owners who keep their dogs on a leash.

We definitely do not respect dog owners who do not keep their dogs on a leash.

:thumbup:

Barefoot 11-01-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1313658)
,,,, I can totally control my dog with my voice. But I also always have my dog on a leash when walking her along the streets. Don't confuse owners who have control of their dogs with those who disregard the rules and have no respect for their neighbors...two different groups.

:agree:

Railcruiser 11-04-2016 08:58 PM

Follow up
 
Today my neighbors saw the woman walking her dogs by the same place with no leash. I shocked and sad that she really is as indifferent and selfish as some people here said she would be. So angry that animal control refuses to do anything because there was not blood . Only bad bruising and a badly damaged mind of one of my dogs. My little one couldn't care less and would take on the next dog. My bigger dog however the vet said she will probably not recover to want to be with other dogs again.(goodbye to all my friends at the dog parking the walks by the pond we've had together the lady 8 years. The xanax isn't helping trying some herbs now. Not to mention the walks my 93 year old Dad loved to have with the dogs. Sad but grateful he wasn't on that walk. If not injured he would've been greatly traumatized. If you don't like how I feel about this keep your comments to yourself. This has been awful enough.

rubicon 11-05-2016 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Railcruiser (Post 1311558)
We have her address and will report back tomorrow to animal control. When my husband called the sheriff today he said if they did not break skin on B they cannot collect an attack and they will just go speak to her which is better than nothing. I do have some pepper spray I will carry from now on but I don't have a lot of confidence that it would stop in attacking Dog. I will Carry my husband's cane also . However , I do not think I will go far from my home anymore . As much as I love to walk

Railcruiser Let me begin that i am only afraid of 4 types of dogs alive-dead big-small Let me also say that without exception I always have my pet Daring the anole on a leash when we go for a walk.

As to the sheriff response I question his understanding of the law. A person can be charged with assault and battery simply by an increase in vocal volume and placing his/her hand on another's person's body. The owner of that dog committed at least battery because the owner's weapon was that dog.

I am afraid of strange dogs because as a kid I had one attack me without provocation.

I find it misguided when I hear/see a dog owner place their love for their dog over the safety of human beings

ColdNoMore 11-05-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1315546)
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I find it misguided when I hear/see a dog owner place their love for their dog over the safety of human beings

That pretty much says it all.

VApeople 11-05-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1315546)
I find it misguided when I hear/see a dog owner place their love for their dog over the safety of human beings

I am not surprised when dog owners do that. When I have seen a dog attack a person, the dog owner usually says something like, 'What did you do to make my dog bite you?"

Of course, this is just human nature. We all tend to put our interests ahead of others and we think our actions are always right. When we finally realize we may have hurt someone, we usually say, "I'm sorry you were hurt" instead of "My actions were wrong and I am sorry my actions hurt you".

Expect nothing from other people and you will get through life just fine.

Rapscallion St Croix 11-05-2016 04:51 PM

Before moving to Florida, I used to walk every evening and there was a family down the street with an aggressive white dog named Blizzard. They let it run loose and it would come into the street and bare its teeth at me. I had many words with the owner who tried to tell me how to behave around the dog. I told him in colorful terms that it is his behavior and the dog's behavior that needs modifying, not mine. I had the law go talk to them several times but it didn't help. I finally decided to pepper spray the mutt. He never came at me again after I hosed him, and I got some lagniappe when the owner tried to comfort the dog and got pepper spray all over himself while hugging the dog.

Carl in Tampa 11-06-2016 11:10 PM

Lagniappe
 
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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1315940)
Before moving to Florida, I used to walk every evening and there was a family down the street with an aggressive white dog named Blizzard. They let it run loose and it would come into the street and bare its teeth at me. I had many words with the owner who tried to tell me how to behave around the dog. I told him in colorful terms that it is his behavior and the dog's behavior that needs modifying, not mine. I had the law go talk to them several times but it didn't help. I finally decided to pepper spray the mutt. He never came at me again after I hosed him, and I got some lagniappe when the owner tried to comfort the dog and got pepper spray all over himself while hugging the dog.

Lagniappe.............. a word I learned during my six year assignment in New Orleans. Yes, I know what it means to miss New Orleans............and the French Quarter, the food, zydeco, and the people. Friendships that have lasted for over 35 years.

Humm. I guess I've gotten off topic. Back to it. If a dog attacks you, make him decide that he will never make that mistake again. Golf club.

Taltarzac725 11-07-2016 07:19 AM

You may want to go talk to the Small Claims Court people in Bushnell to get the paper work needed and the like. It might be a few months though before you could get a person to hear your case. http://www.sumterclerk.com/index.cfm/small-claims-forms

Taltarzac725 11-07-2016 07:22 AM

Small Claims Court in Bushnell.
 
Copy and paste this link. http://www.sumterclerk.com/index.cfm/small-claims-forms

Railcruiser 11-07-2016 08:59 AM

All is I want is this lady to take care of her dog. I'm sure it is a great dog . Most are. As we all know it's the owners that are the problem. As I said before I know my dogs on angels they are spoiled rotten. However, I have had them eight and six years respectively and have never had this kind of confrontation with another dog out in public, dog parks, traveling 4000 miles on the road every year. I feel bad for this dog. It is not going to have a happy ending if she doesn't take care of it

Railcruiser 11-07-2016 09:00 AM

Hi Tal, I was wondering when you would weigh in on this. It is Dori and Ellie from doggy Doo run that this happened to. I really do not want a court case. Not sure what to do at this point since all I have is my word against hers unless I can find the people that came to my aid

Taltarzac725 11-07-2016 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Railcruiser (Post 1316440)
Hi Tal, I was wondering when you would weigh in on this. It is Dori and Ellie from doggy Doo run that this happened to. I really do not want a court case. Not sure what to do at this point since all I have is my word against hers unless I can find the people that came to my aid

Oh. I see that now. Maybe try having the woman over for lunch???

I have someone I really care about whose dog was mauled badly. She tried to do it the nice way and have a friendly chat with the owner of the dog and get them to agree to pay the bills in a reasonable manner but they ignored my friend's decency and now she has a small claims court date.

I would try to get some statements from people who know this woman and her dogs just in case you do have to take it to small claims court.

The vet could also give you some kind of statement.

I have avoided going to court too as much as I can all my life. Never much fun.

Just try to document stuff in case you do have to go to court for the vet bills and the like.


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