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charlieo1126@gmail.com 05-28-2021 09:11 AM
I’m such a non tech guy ( I have no premium channels) just NFL ticket and an Uber app that I don’t even know what version I’m on lol

mikef65 05-28-2021 09:43 AM
Supporting multiple versions of software is expensive in resources and complexity. Best path forward is to communicate specifically which deprecated features were useful and which new behavior is intolerable. Be polite. Software developers are people too. :)

billethkid 05-28-2021 10:13 AM
We have been gone for a week and when I started the computer this AM and went to TOTV (bookmark) it opened as usual to the old format.....which is my preference....happy to see it still available.

I saw no advantage to the new site and rank it as change for the sake of change with no perceptible advantages (for me).

stan the man 05-28-2021 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1951426)
:ohdear:
I see the powers that be have withdrawn the old version of TOTV.
R.I.P.

Do not like this new version.
News, soon to be retired Newer version - lack of interest :):):)

Two Bills 05-28-2021 02:33 PM
Had a reply to an enquirey I made to TOTV, and evidently if you use the new version, you will probably lose the 'Click here' for old version as it is no longer supported.
So don't go there!!

As posted earlier, it's TOTV ball and their game.
Shame as I enjoyed it on here, but really not a fan of this new format, so will probably go and find another game to play!:ho:

junction29 05-29-2021 10:37 AM
Totally agree, the new version sucks 👿👿👿👿👿

emb2458 05-29-2021 11:14 AM
It is terrible

TOTV Team 05-29-2021 01:46 PM
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team

NoMoSno 05-29-2021 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team
I am on multiple other forums.
They all have the option of choosing a viewing theme.
A light or dark theme is common.
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11 Best Forum Software to Build an Online Community in 2021

Carla B 05-29-2021 03:03 PM
I've been using the new version since it was new. I don't remember what advantage the old version may have had, so this one is good for me.

Kenswing 05-29-2021 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team
Some of the things I don't like about the new version are:
The stark white background. It's tough on the eyes after awhile. The old color scheme was much easier to look at.

I usually hit the "Today's Posts" link. The list it presents isn't as well defined as it used to be. Meaning the lines between each thread aren't as well defined. Everything just kind of runs together.

oldtimes 05-29-2021 03:25 PM
The green menu box that pops up on an android phone is too tiny to be able to use and very difficult and annoying to get rid of.
On an Ipad the the classifieds present poorly so that you can't even read the descriptions or make out the pictures.
It does not appear that the app is ever tested on mobile devices.

bob47 05-29-2021 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team
In a nutshell, in the old version, you can see a lot more of the various topics with a LOT LESS scrolling.

In the old version, you can on the home page quickly look at the latest posts in ALL the forums without going to each forum.

tophcfa 05-29-2021 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team
If you sincerely appreciate user feedback and want to make a huge improvement, bring back the old version.

stanley 05-29-2021 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1952386)
If you sincerely appreciate user feedback and want to make a huge improvement, bring back the old version.
I don't see too many people in the 4 pages of replies say they love the new version. That's why I find that 95% number a tad hard to believe

Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

TOTV Team

Polar Bear 05-29-2021 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1952386)
If you sincerely appreciate user feedback and want to make a huge improvement, bring back the old version.
That is not a unanimous opinion.

stanley 05-29-2021 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1952389)
That is not a unanimous opinion.
Certainly not "unanimous", but the "vast majority", and I would say better than 95%, in this thread want to keep the old version.

oldtimes 05-29-2021 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1952388)
I don't see too many people in the 4 pages of replies say they love the new version. That's why I find that 95% number a tad hard to believe
Just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean we don’t use it. They said the old version would eventually go away so I accepted that to mean switching was inevitable.

golfing eagles 05-29-2021 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1952400)
Just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean we don’t use it. They said the old version would eventually go away so I accepted that to mean switching was inevitable.
Bring back DOS 2.0:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

oldtimes 05-29-2021 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1952401)
Bring back DOS 2.0:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
MS-DOS continues to be used around the world and is responsible for many embedded applications. MS-DOS may be not a very important operating system anymore, but it still has value and is used in many applications.

Polar Bear 05-29-2021 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1952396)
Certainly not "unanimous", but the "vast majority", and I would say better than 95%, in this thread want to keep the old version.
In this thread maybe.

JoMar 05-29-2021 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1952431)
In this thread maybe.
Which puts me in the 5% :a040:

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1952348)
I am on multiple other forums.
They all have the option of choosing a viewing theme.
A light or dark theme is common.
best forum software 2021 - Google Search
11 Best Forum Software to Build an Online Community in 2021
We can do the new version with a different color 'theme'. But it will still be the layout of the new version. Let us know if that would be a good option.

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1952358)
Some of the things I don't like about the new version are:
The stark white background. It's tough on the eyes after awhile. The old color scheme was much easier to look at.

I usually hit the "Today's Posts" link. The list it presents isn't as well defined as it used to be. Meaning the lines between each thread aren't as well defined. Everything just kind of runs together.
1) So a different option than the white background

2) When you click 'new posts' there are lines that separate each one. Is there something that would be better in this regard?

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1952361)
The green menu box that pops up on an android phone is too tiny to be able to use and very difficult and annoying to get rid of.
On an Ipad the the classifieds present poorly so that you can't even read the descriptions or make out the pictures.
It does not appear that the app is ever tested on mobile devices.
1) We will send both of these suggestions to the developers to improve.

2) The website was tested on mobile and we appreciate the feedback.

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1952386)
If you sincerely appreciate user feedback and want to make a huge improvement, bring back the old version.
That is a good suggestion but doesn't address the need for keeping updated with technology.

If there is a specific suggestion on how to improve the new version please submit.

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob47 (Post 1952383)
In a nutshell, in the old version, you can see a lot more of the various topics with a LOT LESS scrolling.

In the old version, you can on the home page quickly look at the latest posts in ALL the forums without going to each forum.
On the new version we changed the forum thread homepage and it is now like you describe.

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1952388)
I don't see too many people in the 4 pages of replies say they love the new version. That's why I find that 95% number a tad hard to believe
We didn't want to go off how we thought or felt so we implemented google analytic code for tracking when we launched the new version. So we know the data is correct.

Also the majority of consumers will write a bad review 10-1 before they write a good one. So only seeing a fraction of the 200,000 visitors a month with this feedback also lends to the data being correct.

TOTV Team 05-31-2021 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1952396)
Certainly not "unanimous", but the "vast majority", and I would say better than 95%, in this thread want to keep the old version.
The numbers in this thread are a fraction of 200,000 monthly visitors.

NoMoSno 06-01-2021 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1953241)
We can do the new version with a different color 'theme'. But it will still be the layout of the new version. Let us know if that would be a good option.
Yes, an option to change from a white background to a darker background would be great.

Kenswing 06-01-2021 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1953243)
1) So a different option than the white background

2) When you click 'new posts' there are lines that separate each one. Is there something that would be better in this regard?
Yes, an option for a different colored background would be great. The color scheme of the old version worked well.

Yes, there are lines that differentiate the threads but they're not as well pronounced as the older version.

Another thing that I noticed since I've been using the new version is that it's more condensed. Whereas the old version took up my entire screen from side to side, the new version only takes up the middle 2/3 of the screen. Seems a bit crowded.

oldtimes 06-01-2021 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1953246)
On the new version we changed the forum thread homepage and it is now like you describe.
This is better. Thank you.

JSR22 06-01-2021 01:01 PM
I like the new version.

Polar Bear 06-01-2021 01:07 PM
Silly question alert…how do I know which version I am using? :D

CFrance 06-01-2021 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOTV Team (Post 1952318)
We track the users that us the new format vs the old format. On average 95% of the users on TOTV are using the new format.

That being noted, we value the opinion of ALL users and we want to make the user experience as high of quality as possible. Obviously anyone with a computer or cell phone understands that technology advances and the software and development of the software has to advance with it as well. TOTV is extremely custom coded and we do not have the benefit of plug and play.

If we are provided with images, screen shots and specific suggestions on how to improve the experience on the website we would gladly look to implement changes. Feedback like 'bad', 'don't like it', 'sucks', 'won't use it', etc unfortunately does not provide the feedback required to make change and improvements.

We appreciate all the user support and feedback and value the time you spend on the website.

TOTV Team
If you could take every part that's brilliant white (especially that page that lists all the posts) and make it a softer color or even a softer white, that would be a big help. I don't mind the new version so much as the terrible glare on any page that's white. I suppose I could dim my screen, but that would cause a problem with other web sites.

retiredguy123 06-01-2021 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1953544)
Silly question alert…how do I know which version I am using? :D
If you see a lot of dark green and beige, you are using the old version.

coffeebean 06-01-2021 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1951614)
This morning the "reply with quote" option seems to have disappeared, anyone else have that problem???
The REPLY button seems to be the "new" REPLY WITH QUOTE button. Then......there is the QUICK REPLY button when you do not want to include a quote.

retiredguy123 06-01-2021 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1953578)
The REPLY button seems to be the "new" REPLY WITH QUOTE button. Then......there is the QUICK REPLY button when you do not want to include a quote.
Which version? With the old version, you can click on "quick reply" and include a quote by clicking on the "quote message in reply" box.

oldtimes 06-01-2021 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1953578)
The REPLY button seems to be the "new" REPLY WITH QUOTE button. Then......there is the QUICK REPLY button when you do not want to include a quote.
Absolutely brilliant.

Polar Bear 06-01-2021 02:51 PM
If I see the “Reply” and “Quick Reply” buttons and I see no “Reply with Quote” button, does that mean I’m using the new version?


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