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DianeM 05-12-2015 08:12 AM

Not changing my mind on a damn thing. Live and let live. Trust me-I won't report you for your egret. I would have to give a rats behind to report you and quite frankly I don't.

graciegirl 05-12-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1059148)
Not changing my mind on a damn thing. Live and let live. Trust me-I won't report you for your egret. I would have to give a rats behind to report you and quite frankly I don't.


Diane. Diane. Diane.

janmcn 05-12-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1058951)
To be fair I have not read every post on this long Thread so I may repeat what,another has already posted. When we closed on our house, neither the agent or anyone explained the Convenants in our village. Reading them is rather boring and Not a high priority for somebody moving----I see a lot of violations apparently are in the new Villages.

This may be part of the problem---residents just don't know what the "restrictions" are.


Prospective buyers should read the deed restrictions before they even start looking at homes to see if there is anything in there that they can't live with.

Go to villagesdistrictgov.org and click on declarations of restrictions. Don't be concerned if you don't know exactly what sub-division you will be looking at, as districts five through eleven deed restrictions are virtually identical. The only difference is in the courtyard villa neighborhoods, where the district maintains the streets.

The older areas (districts one through four) have substantial differences from the areas south of CR466.

TheVillageChicken 05-12-2015 09:25 AM

I have read my deed restrictions many times. I know that the lady down the street should only have two dogs but has three. She always walks them in the opposite direction....away from my home, and I have never heard them bark. She is not impacting my life...she gets a pass. Two streets up is an ugly lawn which breaks the 50% sodded requirement rule. They have replaced the sod with ugly grey stones. I don't have to see that house and those who visit me never see it either. Doesn't impact my life...gets a pass. If I thought either example infringed upon my rights or my quality of life, or if I found out they were Falcons fans, I would report them in a heartbeat. I am glad to have covenants and I obey them. I think we should all obey them, but I don't feel the need to be a crusader on someone else's behalf.

Villager Joyce 05-12-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059168)
I have read my deed restrictions many times. I know that the lady down the street should only have two dogs but has three. She always walks them in the opposite direction....away from my home, and I have never heard them bark. She is not impacting my life...she gets a pass. Two streets up is an ugly lawn which breaks the 50% sodded requirement rule. They have replaced the sod with ugly grey stones. I don't have to see that house and those who visit me never see it either. Doesn't impact my life...gets a pass. If I thought either example infringed upon my rights or my quality of life, or if I found out they were Falcons fans, I would report them in a heartbeat. I am glad to have covenants and I obey them. I think we should all obey them, but I don't feel the need to be a crusader on someone else's behalf.

Well written.

Barefoot 05-12-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059168)
I have read my deed restrictions many times. I know that the lady down the street should only have two dogs but has three. She always walks them in the opposite direction....away from my home, and I have never heard them bark. She is not impacting my life...she gets a pass. Two streets up is an ugly lawn which breaks the 50% sodded requirement rule. They have replaced the sod with ugly grey stones. I don't have to see that house and those who visit me never see it either. Doesn't impact my life...gets a pass. If I thought either example infringed upon my rights or my quality of life, or if I found out they were Falcons fans, I would report them in a heartbeat.

I am glad to have covenants and I obey them. I think we should all obey them, but I don't feel the need to be a crusader on someone else's behalf.

Well said.

justjim 05-12-2015 02:01 PM

Role of Agent
 
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1059163)
Prospective buyers should read the deed restrictions before they even start looking at homes to see if there is anything in there that they can't live with.

Go to villagesdistrictgov.org and click on declarations of restrictions. Don't be concerned if you don't know exactly what sub-division you will be looking at, as districts five through eleven deed restrictions are virtually identical. The only difference is in the courtyard villa neighborhoods, where the district maintains the streets.

The older areas (districts one through four) have substantial differences from the areas south of CR466.

Do you think the Real Estate Agents should give you a copy of the deed restrictions before they take your deposit? :confused:

justjim 05-12-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059168)
I have read my deed restrictions many times. I know that the lady down the street should only have two dogs but has three. She always walks them in the opposite direction....away from my home, and I have never heard them bark. She is not impacting my life...she gets a pass. Two streets up is an ugly lawn which breaks the 50% sodded requirement rule. They have replaced the sod with ugly grey stones. I don't have to see that house and those who visit me never see it either. Doesn't impact my life...gets a pass. If I thought either example infringed upon my rights or my quality of life, or if I found out they were Falcons fans, I would report them in a heartbeat. I am glad to have covenants and I obey them. I think we should all obey them, but I don't feel the need to be a crusader on someone else's behalf.

:a20: What about a Bears fan?

TheVillageChicken 05-12-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1059302)
:a20: What about a Bears fan?

Being a die hard NFC fan, the only problem I have ever had with the Bears was when they choked after the first quarter in Super Bowl XLI. To fully understand my hatred of the Falcons, you would have to know that my passport says I am from Who Dat Nation.

janmcn 05-12-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1059301)
Do you think the Real Estate Agents should give you a copy of the deed restrictions before they take your deposit? :confused:


Yes definitely. In some states this is the law. Buyers are given all Condo docs or deed restrictions to review before the contract is signed, apparently not in Florida.

Any prospective buyer can go to villagesdistrictgov.org and click on declaration of restrictions and see every deed restriction ever written in TV.

Big O 05-12-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1059310)
Yes definitely. In some states this is the law. Buyers are given all Condo docs or deed restrictions to review before the contract is signed, apparently not in Florida.

Any prospective buyer can go to villagesdistrictgov.org and click on declaration of restrictions and see every deed restriction ever written in TV.

With our salesperson the restrictions were a major selling point. I can't imagine Villages salespeople not highlighting them fro the very beginning.

manaboutown 05-12-2015 06:45 PM

Would anyone in The Villages complain about this lawn ornament? This guys' neighbors do. http://www.triplem.com.au/modernrock...cow-sculpture/

lafoto 05-12-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big O (Post 1059338)
With our salesperson the restrictions were a major selling point. I can't imagine Villages salespeople not highlighting them fro the very beginning.

A skilled sales person "reads" the client in order to highlight the features and benefits that are important to that client. We took our time in purchasing our home, we shopped multiple times over 10 months. NEVER did our Villages sales person highlight the deed restrictions as a benefit. For us..they are not important. I embrace peoples individual tastes even if they dont reflect mine. I cannot imagine someone even thinking that the restrictions are an important benefit in the Villages. You can find a million "Wrinkle Cities" all over Florida, many (maybe most) have tons of deed restrictions, but there is only one "The Villages"
Lets be honest...the awesome reputation that our community has did NOT come from deed restrictions.

TheVillageChicken 05-12-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lafoto (Post 1059388)
A skilled sales person "reads" the client in order to highlight the features and benefits that are important to that client. We took our time in purchasing our home, we shopped multiple times over 10 months. NEVER did our Villages sales person highlight the deed restrictions as a benefit. For us..they are not important. I embrace peoples individual tastes even if they dont reflect mine. I cannot imagine someone even thinking that the restrictions are an important benefit in the Villages. You can find a million "Wrinkle Cities" all over Florida, many (maybe most) have tons of deed restrictions, but there is only one "The Villages"
Lets be honest...the awesome reputation that our community has did NOT come from deed restrictions.

So, are you saying that The Villages would be as successful if they allowed families with kids to live here? Above ground pools? Trampolines? How about yards full of pickup trucks? A shed in every back yard?

lafoto 05-12-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059389)
So, are you saying that The Villages would be as successful if they allowed families with kids to live here? Above ground pools? Trampolines? How about yards full of pickup trucks? A shed in every back yard?

The subject matter of this thread are the deed restrictions regarding lawn ornaments and a busy body riding around looking for offending lawns .

Polar Bear 05-12-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lafoto (Post 1059388)
...Lets be honest...the awesome reputation that our community has did NOT come from deed restrictions.

The reputation is not due to any single thing. But I believe that deed restrictions are one of the many things.

drcar 05-13-2015 06:27 AM

:BigApplause:
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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059168)
I have read my deed restrictions many times. I know that the lady down the street should only have two dogs but has three. She always walks them in the opposite direction....away from my home, and I have never heard them bark. She is not impacting my life...she gets a pass. Two streets up is an ugly lawn which breaks the 50% sodded requirement rule. They have replaced the sod with ugly grey stones. I don't have to see that house and those who visit me never see it either. Doesn't impact my life...gets a pass. If I thought either example infringed upon my rights or my quality of life, or if I found out they were Falcons fans, I would report them in a heartbeat. I am glad to have covenants and I obey them. I think we should all obey them, but I don't feel the need to be a crusader on someone else's behalf.


dirtbanker 05-13-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1059389)
So, are you saying that The Villages would be as successful if they allowed families with kids to live here? Above ground pools? Trampolines? How about yards full of pickup trucks? A shed in every back yard?

From what I can tell; success came to the development once they began building south of 441/27 (with the stricter deed restrictions). They had already tried less restrictions in the historic district...wonder why they wanted more restrictions?

drcar 05-13-2015 06:51 AM

What is very interesting, "The Villages" don't care about enforcing their own rules.A home that was cited for a violation during this infraction was sold by the villages. Listed on the real estate posting was a picture of a fence that is now deemed as NOT legal and has to be taken down, heck the agent even pointed out the fence as a plus during the sales pitch.

Barefoot 05-13-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1059340)
sick of seeing this thread,take off ! boo-hooo

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1059597)
boo-hoo,follow the rules or move,

:popcorn:

graciegirl 05-13-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1059509)
What is very interesting, "The Villages" don't care about enforcing their own rules.A home that was cited for a violation during this infraction was sold by the villages. Listed on the real estate posting was a picture of a fence that is now deemed as NOT legal and has to be taken down, heck the agent even pointed out the fence as a plus during the sales pitch.


I don't understand what you are saying.

lafoto 05-13-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 1059496)
From what I can tell; success came to the development once they began building south of 441/27 (with the stricter deed restrictions). They had already tried less restrictions in the historic district...wonder why they wanted more restrictions?

And where do you gain such knowledge? I have read the history of the Villages and I can tell say that the above is statement is false.

More troubling is your blatant attach on the residents of the historic district and their tastes. Shame shame shame...

rustyp 05-13-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 1059496)
From what I can tell; success came to the development once they began building south of 441/27 (with the stricter deed restrictions). They had already tried less restrictions in the historic district...wonder why they wanted more restrictions?

Historic side folklore about loose restrictions. Look up the restrictions on the historic side and you will find most of us are only allowed one dog OR cat of 20 pounds or less in size. Deed restrictions south of us allow for 2 pets per household without mention of size restriction. Some of these big dogs can leave piles higher than the old ladies stocking tops on our lawn ornaments.

drcar 05-13-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1059650)
I don't understand what you are saying.

Gracie, what I am saying is, the villages will post pictures of pre owned home with violations, state how pretty the homes are with no regard to the violations. The villages them selves dis regrade the violations, I just find it interesting. Please understand at NO time am I saying that we did not violate the deed restrictions. I guess our 2 sand hill cranes were naughty! But even the villages turn thier heads to it for a sale! I find it interesting. What I do not like is the name calling here. I have been told " move if you don't like it!" I am only stating my opinion, I have come in to compliance and will stay that way.

graciegirl 05-13-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1059714)
Gracie, what I am saying is, the villages will post pictures of pre owned home with violations, state how pretty the homes are with no regard to the violations. The villages them selves dis regrade the violations, I just find it interesting. Please understand at NO time am I saying that we did not violate the deed restrictions. I guess our 2 sand hill cranes were naughty! But even the villages turn thier heads to it for a sale! I find it interesting. What I do not like is the name calling here. I have been told " move if you don't like it!" I am only stating my opinion, I have come in to compliance and will stay that way.

Oh now I understand. I don't want you to move. I really like your honesty and all of your posts and your sense of humor and your common sense..

You may have to move your cranes to under the eaves. Many of us had to do that.

It is what it is.

And like my friend pointed out this morning. There are so many awful things that happen every day. This is not awful or scary or sad.

DougB 05-13-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1059509)
What is very interesting, "The Villages" don't care about enforcing their own rules.A home that was cited for a violation during this infraction was sold by the villages. Listed on the real estate posting was a picture of a fence that is now deemed as NOT legal and has to be taken down, heck the agent even pointed out the fence as a plus during the sales pitch.

What about those big cow lawn ornaments in front of the south Brownwood entrance?

Barefoot 05-13-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 1059751)
What about those big cow lawn ornaments in front of the south Brownwood entrance?

:BigApplause:

shcisamax 05-13-2015 04:54 PM

I can't believe this is still going.

dirtbanker 05-13-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lafoto (Post 1059660)
And where do you gain such knowledge? I have read the history of the Villages and I can tell say that the above is statement is false.

More troubling is your blatant attach on the residents of the historic district and their tastes. Shame shame shame...

I gain this knowledge thru personally driving around the various areas of the Villages and noting there are no golf cart grave yards, no vehicles parked in the lawns, and no piles of "stuff" in the yards....south of 441/27 anyways.

Sorry you are troubled, but I am not "attaching" anyone's taste! I just pointed out that there was less deed restrictions there and that was the start of the Villages (after the mail order lot property got shut down of course).

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1059673)
Historic side folklore about loose restrictions. Look up the restrictions on the historic side and you will find most of us are only allowed one dog OR cat of 20 pounds or less in size. Deed restrictions south of us allow for 2 pets per household without mention of size restriction. Some of these big dogs can leave piles higher than the old ladies stocking tops on our lawn ornaments.

I will try to look that up, but from what I seen; while there might be a tighter restriction on pets, there are less restrictions in total.

drcar 05-13-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1059730)
Oh now I understand. I don't want you to move. I really like your honesty and all of your posts and your sense of humor and your common sense..

You may have to move your cranes to under the eaves. Many of us had to do that.

It is what it is.

And like my friend pointed out this morning. There are so many awful things that happen every day. This is not awful or scary or sad.

Cranes are moved, really not a issue, lol, they kinda just walked there by themselves!! I to love your posts and your sense of humor, I am done and out on this subject!! I know there are opinions that never will be change or should be, just wanted to start a discussion. Just wanted to open some eyes and make people aware. In my world it was just another small ripple in the pond of life, but worth noting. What does and always will amaze me is how far off the subject people can go and get down right dirty and personal. :beer3::beer3:

drcar 05-13-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 1059779)
I can't believe this is still going.

Down and out!!!!!:posting:

DonH57 05-13-2015 07:56 PM

It's no doubt there were less restrictive deed restrictions on the oldest section of the villages given the time table of as the villages were built district by district and restrictions were added or amended accordinly. Are there still people confused by that?

manaboutown 05-13-2015 09:57 PM

As with any successful business the developer has tweaked his formula over time to improve his product. Constant incremental improvement. The Japanese refer to it as Kaizen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen

Barefoot 05-13-2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 1059751)
What about those big cow lawn ornaments in front of the south Brownwood entrance?

:eclipsee_gold_cup: IMHO, best post of 272 posts.
The same suggestion has been made at least 50 times - Call the :police: and let them handle it".:Screen_of_Death:


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