Except, being nasty is against the rules of this forum. You can say nasty things all you like, in the privacy of your own home. When you start targeting people and saying nasty things to them on a public forum where ANYONE can see what you're saying, you become subject to the forum's rules. If you have a problem with restriction of what you say, then start your own forum, and invite people to say whatever they want on it, without restriction.

Roy Roger never lip-locked Dale Evans, but when the sun went down.........you knew the spurs came off (well, at least some of the time). :shocked:

Nope, definitely the TV industry (Hollyweird).

Roy Rogers was cancelled 4 years before I was born. It hasn't been relevant since 1957. Most homes now have indoor plumbing, even in rural areas. Oh and communicating with your loved ones can now be done instantly even if the loved one isn't home to answer the landline phone.

The world has evolved. White people are depicted as being friends with black people on TV now. Chinese people aren't only cast as the laundry shop owners anymore. Baseball players come in all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, origins, and sexual preferences. And yes - consenting adults of all varieties on TV kiss. The TV studios want to make sure that ALL the advertisers' potential customers are represented.

That is commerce. When people evolve, the media has to evolve with it. The Puritans are the vast minority, and the vast minority doesn't have as much buying power as the vast majority. This is capitalism at work. The opposite would be communism. I'm okay with capitalism.

Sarcasm Sheldon, sarcasm.

Yes and No. The major networks such as ABC which airs the drama show The Good Doctor, which harkens back to the original post from a week ago, that apparently upset the OP (Boomer). A poster said that the shows display of gay characters was too much in his face and he quit watching. So Boomer felt the need to basically chastise that poster and anyone else who thinks that way.

What Boomer and apparently Orange Blossom Baby neglected to consider is ABC is a broadcast network which falls under the FCC laws about obscene, indecent and profane content, and obscene content does not have protection by the First Amendment. The poster of the previous thread was simply stating his objection to the 'in your face' portrayal of gay characters on it's most recent show.

The Common Sense website states the Good Doctor is a show for 14+ age group and warns about flashbacks to scenes of bullying. Doesn't really sound too risque. However, there are letters posted to Common Sense warning viewers.

Great show. Not for kids
This is a great show, but in the most recent episodes there is so much sex and discussion about sex that it should not be for anyone younger than 16.

The Good Doctor TV Review

I have never watched the Good Doctor, but apparently from comments, it's beginning to crossing the line in areas that are not their norm. I've not watched any recurring network TV shows since the 80's when I watched Moonlighting. I'm only going by the remarks of posters on the subject.

I have watched one episodic TV show, but it was on HBO, the show Six Feet Under. I never watched when it was new, but have since watched all 63 episodes about five times each. It's probably my favorite show if I had to pick one. However, the big difference is it was not on a public broadcast network. It was on a paid premium channel that was HBO, and most everyone who subscribes to HBO knows what they'll be getting.

Anyone that has watched Six Feet Under will know the show was based on the Fisher Family who operated a funeral home in Los Angeles. First off, it's a show about death, it's located in Hollywood, and two of the main characters, Michael C. Hall (who many will know as Dexter, which came later) and Mathew St. Patrick are gay lovers. What's even more off-kilter is St. Patrick portrays an LA Cop, but while on duty looks and plays the part of a cop perfectly. The show's scenes are sometimes the two of them kissing, but knowing the show was on HBO and warned of graphic with nudity, sex, gay, and very raw, it was not a surprise such as ABC and the Good Doctor.

The Good Doctor is about a young surgeon with autism who uses his medical gifts to save lives. Rated as a 14+ TV audience

https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content...e-1014x570.jpg

Six Feet Under chronicles the lives of a dysfunctional family who run an independent funeral home in Los Angeles. Rated as 18+ for mature viewers only.

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Yep. Too bad. Suggests that The Villages may not be “Florida’s Friendliest Hometown”.

But as a moderator, couldn't you have fixed some of that? Just curious, because I did not know that posters could be moderators as well.

Great hubris.

Anybody can post an opinion, but it’s much more Cerebral To do it with style. Happy weekend to everyone.

I appreciate your post but just like in Facebook or any other media, I just keep rolling. There is a lot of negativity, I share & forward happy & fun posts. We have lots of time on our hands we should look for happiness and share it.

Sorry but, that "Pepsi vs Coke" thing is a MERE small personal choice about a TRIVIAL preference. Pretend that you are a COVID virus riding on a droplet expelled from some human being's nose or mouth. You (the virus) do NOT care if you infect a Pepsi drinker or a Coke drinker. You are equally effective against either one. That is why that "Pepsi vs Coke" analogy had ZERO transference to the issue of the current CV Plague that affects each individual in TV Land or any human (and some animals apparently) in the world! I am also sorry that my rhetoric is about how serious the EVOLVING Virus actually is. I am sorry that I do NOT understand why so many people on this forum want to downplay that seriousness. I do this because I believe that if more people recognized the magnitude of the problem, then they could react BETTER as a society to fix the problem. It probably could (?) have been fixed months ago if EVERYBODY from a local level upward had been of ONE MIND and determined to put it behind us. I see other countries like Australia taking CV seriously and here in the US it is treated as a non-event, practically a joke. Some will next call me paranoid but, I feel that I am only realistic and I am trying to warn about what I see here locally as treating CV as a non-event. I do NOT think that is a smart attitude! We are older and more experienced, we should be the thought leaders on this subject, not the thought deniers!

only two things that set me off on here..

1. LIES.....you cannot..it is impossible.....to have an adult conversation when a participant is lying. I am speaking of out and out fabrication, no opinions. There, in my mind is no excuse for that, and in the course of discussion enabling other liars with support is in the same ball park.

EVERY adult knows the difference between lying and difference of opinion, and those that try to pass off enabling a lie, or lying themselves have no respect for this forum, or the other posters.

2. ATTACKS on other posters is my second main critique. My wife was attacked on here about one year ago, because of ME....because I, with owner and moderator okay, allowed her to have her own separate user name. This was considered to be terrible, and on a trip to check PMs, she was boldly and nastily verbally attacked. THAT was her last trip on here. I have had PMs attacking me, and of course the political forum where that was standard action we will discount.

When political forum and outside conversations (things other than dog poop, etc) were encouraged, even a difference of opinion was civil, honest and adult. I used that forum, at that time, to learn from posters ideas and links they provided from their reading (YES, everyone mainly provided links to support their argument)

Yes moderators can fix.......IF they want to.
There is personal judgement.

That's why there is variation of acceptable content.


Yes posters & moderators can be one & the same.
I have suspended myself twice.

Offensive thoughtless ignorant untruthful posts
 

Seems to me part of the cause of this (see subject line) is allowing in cognito and pseudo name posting. I once had a fellow Villager caution me against using my real name for fear that "people will go after you."

If I have something to say, I'm happy to use my name and if someone has a problem with my thoughts, let's have a discussion.

Otherwise, settle for name calling and outrageous remarks.

The "almighty " PROFIT motive! Which motivates humans to constantly turn GREEN spaces into GREEN currency and non-green, non-oxygen-producing PARKING LOTS. When will that all stop - when the human species is extinct ? The buffalo herd was natural history and beauty all rolled into one. How unique are buffalo ? How un-unique and common is a concrete building with a PARKING LOT ? Which has more beauty and has more of a calming influence on viewers? Which would more artists like to paint? Someday in the barren future, people will wish that they made ALL decisions based on "QUALITY OF LIFE". It will definitely NOT be PROFITS.

Oh please the Buffaloes were not going to be here forever. When I first got here they were next to gas station on a not very built up 466 being fed endless amounts of junk food, then they were moved yes there were some complaints but they would have been moved for buildings anyway. The Buffalo just like cows are used to make taxes on land in urban areas cheaper as agriculture land, before they are built on . Orlando developers had a herd of cows that they moved from place to place as they bought up land for future development. I’ve heard the Buffalo are up in the prairie area near Gainesville I’m sure there much happier and healthier now that there not munching on all those snacks and not having cameras stuck in there faces

In regards to the show The Good Doctor (and others like it), I embrace the idea of showing real life situations that may make me question my own potential prejudices, in the never-ending journey to becoming a better human being. Of all the wonderful rights we have in this country, nowhere does it say that we have the "right" - to never be uncomfortable.

I thought that the bulk of the TV shows were filmed in NYC and most movies were filmed in Hollywood. Maybe today there is a blurring of where TV is primarily shot? I really am curious. I don't know for sure?

Boomer, Boomer................Where is Boomer.
Started a thread wishing for the old days & has not been back to enjoy the almost 150 posts related and unrelated to today & the good old days.


:shrug:

Start daily post maximum today.

Let's hear it for capitalism. Yeah! The TV media aims toward the younger under 25 crowd because they spend more. So, the programming and cultural attitudes reflected are about that group's lives mostly. The baby boomer domination of culture is over! We are only important because we vote a lot. Some specific media and movies are directed towards us. The Villages is an island of rock and roll and older people and ideas. And this Villages island is even becoming younger, Soon rock and roll will be played less and less on Village radio! We will all go the way of the Dodo and the buffalo here in the Villages! Gone and a slowly vanishing memory.

I understand what you are attempting to point out...............but your ages are wrong. Under 25 still don't have the earning power and the actual population is lower than the baby boomers who spend more than the sub-25's.

Georgia seems to show up a lot in movie and TV credits. They do look for tax breaks for their production companies.

My husband says that anonymous people are not to be believed or taken seriously and that they can say anything and make up any kind of background.

But the post I made this morning on this thread is gone. It was asking what exactly is Boomer alluding to? I must have missed something. Was it a discussion of homosexuality or race, because she said something was "bigoted"???. I really do NOT know what the point is of the original post? What is upsetting Boomer??? or maybe WHO???

Someone sent me a P.M. just now saying that his post in answer to my question about this is gone too? What is it we cannot talk about or someone did talk about and it is deleted? What is Boomer talking about in this thread???????????????

Everything said here is probably mostly true. And the post was informative. My post only used the buffalo as an example - a starting point for a larger conversation about the value, the pros of GROWTH, and the cons, the negatives. In general, most people believe that GROWTH and the increased population that parallels that GROWTH are inherently GOOD. I say that if you imagine a graph with Growth or GNP on the Y, vertical axis and you put population growth on the X-axis - you would see a straight line from left to right. But, at some point, the curve would start to bend over to less increase of GROWTH on the Y-axis per given X=axis increase. Like a saturation effect.

If we try it again instead with "QUALITY OF LIFE" on the Y-axis we may get a curve shaped like a mountain where some point is the maximization of Quality and then downward sloping for the increasing population. This makes certain assumptions, of course. Like square mile area of the country or of TV Land or any somewhat self-contained state or country. It also assumes that raw materials and resources are held fairly constant.

So far as I know this is just a theoretical concept. But, it could all be calculated for a city, state, or the whole US with the available, powerful computers. Portland, Or. years ago drew a line around their city to keep quality of life high by limiting high rises and other methods. The city finally relented and went away from the idea due to, I imagine, PROFIT-making interests and lobbies. I do not know if anyone ever wrote a book about that Portland, Or. attempt? Or if any summaries or conclusions were ever drawn. But, it was a HISTORIC attempt at maximizing Quality of Life - over PROFITS.

Thanks for understanding my main point. I will try to check the age breakdowns for spending. I felt that I had read those stats somewhere before. It is possible that I remembered that wrong?

Good point, I have heard that Ga. tries hard to encourage film crews. Crews go to New Zealand sometimes because every possible and beautiful landscape is available there.

It's interesting (going my memory of what I jus saw)..........20 million between 18 & 25, when there are almost 70 million babyboomers. We obviously have "all the net worth", but it seems like I saw we are spending twice the sub-25's.


But as you stated.........................slow vanishing memory. :faint:

Well, that is true. I personally was born on a moon of Saturn and am composed of both carbon and silicon cells. I can go anti- gravitational at will - but only when no one is looking.

Thank you.

Kind words from some. Umbrage taken by others.

I have read everybody’s posts.

I never thought I would see so many comments lined up for a say.

This thread has had its share of segues and side-conversations. I like when that happens — just like it does in real life conversations.

Thank you for being a part of the conversation.

Boomer.

I do not see where quality of life and profits do not co-exist. Profit is not a dirty word. Profit is the goal of hard work and planning and is represented by cash, but it is the goal that when met, supports the business and the livelihood of people who depend on it for their jobs.



"Profit is necessary for the survival and growth of business enterprise. If the business does not make enough profit it will not survive in the growing competitive world. Profit means survival.

It enables the business to grow, helps employee motivation, eases negotiations with banks, attracts investors, and gives clients and customers a confidence in business. All that adds up to success.


Profit is a yardstick that tests the efficiency of the business firm. The success of the business can be judged by the extent of profit earning capacity."

Above snipped from article. Not original.

People who have long worked for the government sometimes use the word profit as a bad word. Profit is not the result of greed or of bad motives. Profit is when you have strawberries left over from your field that you didn't need to sell to get groceries. Profit is canning the leftovers or giving them to a neighbor.

That's a great approach to "things that make you uncomfortable." I personally avoid TV because I prefer a more active form of entertainment - so I spend most of the time most people are watching TV, by playing a multi-player interactive roleplaying text-based game online, with people all over the world. I used to sit in front of the TV for hours every day. It was just too mind-numbing for me, so now I watch occasional shows as a break from the computer, or to share a movie with Beloved Spouse.

Mostly though he watches golf and reruns of old movies, and I game.

You know what's scary:

Stairway to Heaven has been an "Oldie" since 1985.
Jerry Garcia has been dead for over a quarter of a century.
The last THREE generations - have probably never heard of the song Seasons in the Sun.

Pssssst, Gracie, you and I went to press at exactly the same time. My post just now was immediately before yours, and then the page on my lineup turned. We hit submit simultaneously at 5:15.

Like I said, I will be back, but while I am in here, I do want to say that I don’t know why your early post was deleted. You are one who did the “homework assignment” and then posted. I liked it. I hope you did not have to miss cheerleading practice to do it. ;)

(By the way, I am not being snarky, much. Gracie really was a high school cheerleader. She told us about it years ago and I remembered. I was not a cheerleader. I dance like Elaine on Seinfeld. Even though there was no Elaine back then, I knew better than to go out for cheerleading.)

Boomer

I was a high school cheerleader and I am clumsy as a cow on a crutch. I am pretty sure I was picked by the committee of teachers for other reasons...such as my mom died when I was born and I was a serious student. I don't know.

I tried to drill below the surface on my post, which referenced back to another post about TV Land buffalo. I may have gotten a little too"would-be" professorial on that one. One can say that PROFIT is NOT a dirty word, but things get muddied when one gets into the "greed is good" philosophy of business. Incidentally, socially responsible businesses are, on average, more successful and PROFITABLE than rogue "greed is good"-types. Also, the example of Bernie Madoff would come to mind!

My basic point actually NEVER involved PROFITS. If one goes back and looks at my Y-axis, it was GNP GROWTH in one example and QUALITY of LIFE in the 2nd example (I hope no one would dispute quality of Life). Growth and Profits are not synonymous. You can have one without the other. I would hope that other posters re-read my offering. Thank you.

However, in context, let’s see....during this pandemic...

I am just trying to add to an earlier post (by JIMJAMUSER I think).

“With few exceptions, big businesses are having a very different year from most of the country. Between April and September, one of the most tumultuous economic stretches in modern history, 45 of the 50 most valuable publicly traded U.S. companies turned a profit, a Washington Post analysis found.”

“Despite their success, at least 27 of the 50 largest firms held layoffs this year, collectively cutting more than 100,000 workers, The Post found.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...virus-layoffs/

Point is as we make the rich richer and the difference between “rich” and “poor” greater, are we serving the country’s good ? Never feel guilty about making a profit and do all you can to make, but let’s not forget about our country.

The terrain and flora of New Zealand are beautiful and diverse. I have been to and around both islands. The people are friendly and honest. Twenty five years ago I thought about buying some property there but never did as it was a long, long flight from LAX. One can even get a reverse mortgage down there! Borrowing against the value of your home | New Zealand Government

True. The disparity in wealth in the US has never been greater. The Corporations LOVE to lay-off or fire as many workers as possible. Labor is just their biggest cost, which they want to make as low as possible. Corporations can often substitute capital equipment for labor. Machines do NOT need lunch and coffee breaks. They do NOT need health care, daycare, paid time off, and etc. Wall Street rewards Corporations when they cut their workforce. That is one of the many reasons why I scratch my head at the wisdom of any immigration (legal or otherwise). The US is no longer a frontier nation. Andrew Yang said to be prepared for 30 % UNEMPLOYMENT in the US. We could end up with a whole young generation with no outlet for their energy except drugs and crime to supplement their boredom. It IS very possible and the CV plague has exasperated things. WE are in a strange and potentially dangerous time period in history. Citizens and government at all levels need to make good decisions and quick action in order to solve these many problems BEFORE they "fester" beyond control and become unsolvable. Even a little thing like this forum can help or hinder by making accurate and true information available and disseminated. I TRY (?) to be on the help side of that equation!

If there is a next lifetime - I would NOT mind being stationed in New Zealand!