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coffeebean 08-02-2021 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Petersweeney (Post 1982097)
I got a point for calling out a ghoul :(
This is the third post I've read about points just today. What are these points all about?

ROCKMUP 08-02-2021 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1982551)
All this talk about high IQ's has me wondering if The Villages has a chapter of MENSA?
It'd be a party of one.

GrumpyOldMan 08-02-2021 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1982576)
This is the third post I've read about points just today. What are these points all about?
Getting called out by a moderate in a PM.

coffeebean 08-02-2021 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1982543)
Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.
Well........I'm an analytical thinker! Who would have guessed?

coffeebean 08-02-2021 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1982583)
Getting called out by a moderate in a PM.
Oh, thanks.

Seasonal 08-04-2021 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1981819)
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And the 'usual suspects' who simply have to post their 1-5 words rsp or silly emoticons. Gets very old.
The few members that need to reply to each and every thread, have never written anything helpful or interesting need to join a few more TV clubs or golf more. Their posts are very tiring. I suspect that those that have to live with them are glad they found a hobby, thread crapping, so they get free time to enjoy their retirement and the many activities at TV.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2021 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Seasonal (Post 1983610)
The few members that need to reply to each and every thread, have never written anything helpful or interesting need to join a few more TV clubs or golf more. Their posts are very tiring. I suspect that those the have to live with them are glad that they found a hobby, thread crapping, so that they get free time to enjoy their retirement and the many activities at TV.
Consider the ignore feature……..

TheTourVan 08-05-2021 07:34 AM
I am a new member of this forum. I am also involved in a very large golf forum and understand the idea of dealing with thousands of different personalities. On that forum there is a new politics and no COVID conversation in place because apparently the two cannot be separated.

I like this forum. With that said, in just two days of being a member, I already received a PM telling me that TV is mostly Red and bashing the former President. This person doesn't know my political thoughts, nor should they care. Just as I am not here to discuss that.

I long for the days that people didn't discuss it, because it brings out the worst in people.

PennBF 08-05-2021 07:48 AM
Provide a suggested improvement
 
Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:

DAVES 08-05-2021 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTourVan (Post 1983972)
I am a new member of this forum. I am also involved in a very large golf forum and understand the idea of dealing with thousands of different personalities. On that forum there is a new politics and no COVID conversation in place because apparently the two cannot be separated.

I like this forum. With that said, in just two days of being a member, I already received a PM telling me that TV is mostly Red and bashing the former President. This person doesn't know my political thoughts, nor should they care. Just as I am not here to discuss that.

I long for the days that people didn't discuss it, because it brings out the worst in people.
I find history interesting. Not the stuff fed to us in politically corrected, public school indoctrination. So much of what we think are new problems, issues are historically very old. Most people think they have an opened mind. The key to starting an intense argument is just point out to them that their opened mind. They only see one side to every issue. In terms of history imagine, American Revolution, Civil War, WWI, great depression, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam, Cuban Missal crisis imagine any of these posters there. People have not changed as much as we think they have.

I may be lying to myself but, you learn more from people who disagree with you than from people who agree with you. Again, people and what they are. Most people choose to associate with people who agree with them. Most people are essentially talking to themselves.

Truth, sadly funny. About two years ago, I received an e-mail actually more than one, all my friends agree with me-I am unfriending you. Where we are and how we got here.

TheTourVan 08-05-2021 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1983983)
Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:
Free speech has little to do with it.
Example. If you create a forum about horseback riding, and a new member joins and every post is about model airplanes, it would be easy to kindly say "this forum is not about that, and we kindly ask that you stay on topic".

Elimination of topics is more about staying on the topic at hand, rather than removing any pattern of free speech.

DAVES 08-05-2021 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1983983)
Difficulty for the Managers of The TOTV's is to not restrict free speech and at the same
time provide consequences for those that break the "spirit" of the purpose of TOTV's!
Personally I would like to see those who use the forum not to provide a constructive input to the point but rather a wise guy response which is intended to be what it is an abuse of the purpose of the respected forum in which serious people try to express ideas, help, opinions, etc etc. Those that try to violate this should after the first time cannot use the forum for 6 months and after that "never". I am sure those who are serious users for the purpose it was created would approve of this solution and rely on the Manager's judgements. I believe that after the first few examples of this consequence the wise guys will dry up!:popcorn:
So much of what we fight about are impossible to define. Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness. Catchy words but what do they mean? It would take books to discuss any of the three.

Freedom of the press? Freedom of information? There are hundreds of books on that subject as well.

"The Manager's judgements." I don't know but as this is open 24 hours a day seven days a week, I can't imagine there is only one manager. People being people, I will bet if there are two or three or whatever, they do not agree on every call.

HATE is a word used far too often by far too many people. I work hard to keep my HATE list empty. Right now it is empty. Unfortunately, there are several people pounding on the door, trying to get on the list.

DAVES 08-05-2021 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTourVan (Post 1984006)
Free speech has little to do with it.
Example. If you create a forum about horseback riding, and a new member joins and every post is about model airplanes, it would be easy to kindly say "this forum is not about that, and we kindly ask that you stay on topic".

Elimination of topics is more about staying on the topic at hand, rather than removing any pattern of free speech.
As I've tried to state, important terms such as free speech, there is no shortage of books on the subject. A thread, a conversation must rely on words. Words are subject to interpretation. Assuming the point is true, "a new member," perhaps, someone needs to speak to them privately. Issues in public, written, are often not the best place or the best way to handle problems.

Staying on topic, another interesting concept. Reality does not happen as we must discuss it due to the limits of conversation, particularly written communication.
Reality happens all at once. We can only discuss one thing at a time but reality is not like that.

Bilyclub 08-05-2021 08:38 AM
I don't need any points. I'm on a poster's hit list for being in a alleged conspiracy to overthrow the developer.

:shocked::shocked::duck:

TheTourVan 08-05-2021 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1984038)
As I've tried to state, important terms such as free speech, there is no shortage of books on the subject. A thread, a conversation must rely on words. Words are subject to interpretation. Assuming the point is true, "a new member," perhaps, someone needs to speak to them privately. Issues in public, written, are often not the best place or the best way to handle problems.

Staying on topic, another interesting concept. Reality does not happen as we must discuss it due to the limits of conversation, particularly written communication.
Reality happens all at once. We can only discuss one thing at a time but reality is not like that.
I definitely do not agree.
The other forum is about golf. We have specific rules eliminating any conversation about politics. Any posts about that are removed. With hundreds of thousands of readers, we are sure there are an angry few that do not like the policy, and for that we say the internet is a big place and while we aim to please all, its impossible. This forum is about the Villages. If people want to make it about covid, masks, politics, etc then they will find it no more useful than Facebook in short order.

It's a shame too, because there are thousands of great people in TV and most want to discuss the good and the bad about the area and not deal with that stuff on a message board like this.

graciegirl 08-05-2021 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1982358)
Don't forget about those who believe simple longevity, automatically equates to being smarterer. lol
A lot of us grew up with that belief and even were taught to respect our elders. I do think that most people gain knowledge along with experience and compassion as they age.

JMintzer 08-05-2021 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981995)
It's amazing how many people feel it is annoying to HAVE TO READ all those posts.

hmmm...
Sometimes you don't know what's inside the chocolate until you take a bite...

Then it's that hard, honeycomb looking crap...

JMintzer 08-05-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1982166)
I guess papa L has not gotten vaccinated and doesn’t intend to. All I can say is hopefully he will not get sick and pass on with a respirator in his throat.

Papa L, remain safe and healthy and hopefully you don’t infect other people causing lose of life!!
And you know this how?

I've had covid, been vaccinated and I'm sick of hearing the same arguments, day and day out...

JMintzer 08-05-2021 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1982237)
Let’s whine about golf, course conditions, too much rain , not enough rain, the heat and dog poop.
I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:

JMintzer 08-05-2021 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1982241)
That last statement about vaccine attitudes being fixed IS completely WRONG. In general, attitudes like fashion are constantly CHANGING. For example, Hula-hoops and bell-bottom pants have come and gone in fashion. It is the same for attitudes concerning Public Health - they are NOT fixed. Attitudes toward CV have been constantly changing since the Pandemic 1st came to the US. There are VERY IMPORTANT daily changes in the severity of CV that are affecting ALL Florida and US citizens.

The Delta variant is proving to be BOTH more contagious and MORE SEVERE! No one should try to HIDE from that news. Attitudes MUST change over that news. Also, Delta is putting more younger people in hospitals across the US. At a large Jacksonville hospital, the average of CV patients IS AGE 42. And statewide in Florida, 76% more people are getting VACCINATED this week than last week.

This proves that 76% of Floridians have CHANGED their attitudes toward vaccines. To believe that vaccine attitudes will NEVER change is to live in a PRETEND unchanging world. Ignoring important Public Health information can be more dangerous than taking the time to know the issues.
And, once again, not one source to back up these "facts"...

Papa_lecki 08-05-2021 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984262)
And you know this how?

I've had covid, been vaccinated and I'm sick of hearing the same arguments, day and day out...
Actually Gizmo, not that it’s any of your business, I got vaccinated at Walmart on 441 in March.

Bottom line, it was my choice, not someone else’s.

Papa_lecki 08-05-2021 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984266)
I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:
That was my point on the original post - lets talk of The Villages,
someone painted their house the wrong color, the guy at the family pool has his radio too loud, the water’s too cold, the band at Brownwood sucked last night, who’s the best pool builder?

All the COVID/Vaccination talk does is divide us. We are all smart people, we can read about what’s going on.

If you want, create a site called Talk of COVID.

If the admins want this site to generate traffic/views, which in turn generates revenue for them, reign it in.
Yes, there are a lot of posts, but its the same people - a more profitable digital medium has interaction by a lot of people.

JMintzer 08-05-2021 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1984271)
Actually Gizmo, not that it’s any of your business, I got vaccinated at Walmart on 441 in March.

Bottom line, it was my choice, not someone else’s.
Dude, I was defending you...

Save your sass for the person who attacked you...

Papa_lecki 08-05-2021 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984277)
Dude, I was defending you...

Save your sass for the person who attacked you...
I know, the guy you quoted was Gizemo33 (I wasn’t calling you Gizzmo).

You’re one of the guys i enjoy reading here

John41 08-05-2021 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1982543)
Haha, you're right. They want you to pay. I got - Impressive! You completed the test in: 6 m 7 s
That's faster than 97% of people tested.
Your strongest category is Pattern Recognition where you scored higher than 99% of people tested.
Yeah and there are beautiful Russian women wanting to meet me if I pay for full site access.

JMintzer 08-05-2021 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1984286)
I know, the guy you quoted was Gizemo33 (I wasn’t calling you Gizzmo).

You’re one of the guys i enjoy reading here
Thanks, but I was confused when you quoted me talking to Gizmo...

GrumpyOldMan 08-05-2021 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984255)
Sometimes you don't know what's inside the chocolate until you take a bite...

Then it's that hard, honeycomb looking crap...
So true, I try to always put a trigger word in my thread title to warn people. But I think a lot of people get sucked in by curiosity, and then it is like the train wreck that they can't look away from.

MDLNB 08-05-2021 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1984274)
That was my point on the original post - lets talk of The Villages,
someone painted their house the wrong color, the guy at the family pool has his radio too loud, the water’s too cold, the band at Brownwood sucked last night, who’s the best pool builder?

All the COVID/Vaccination talk does is divide us. We are all smart people, we can read about what’s going on.

If you want, create a site called Talk of COVID.

If the admins want this site to generate traffic/views, which in turn generates revenue for them, reign it in.
Yes, there are a lot of posts, but its the same people - a more profitable digital medium has interaction by a lot of people.

Wow, what's wrong with a conversation about COVID? It's interesting and if I get bored with it I know how to exit out of the discussion.

Not calling any names but there sure seems to be a lot of sensitive folks using TOTV. I guess my parent's generation was the last of the Tough Americans because I sure see a lot of PC cr@p being enforced. If our generation is this soft I don't know how the next generation is going to survive.



I agree with the other poster on here that "applauds" the TOTV for their service. When folks are not able to get out and about it's nice that they can converse with peers of their generation.



Thank you TOTV for the great service. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

Boomer 08-05-2021 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1984266)
I've got some sangria marinating...

Oh, wait, wrong whine... :1rotfl:

I am so glad you said that. I have not made sangria all summer. I will tomorrow.

I soak the fruit in Grand Marnier. I like to throw in a peach if I have a good one.

uh, oh. . .I digress. . .back to topic. . .


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