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TheVillageChicken 05-28-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1066380)
If a LSV is clocked going over 19.9, it is no longer a LSV-the tickets will be for the following

1)having an unregistered vehicle
2)having an uninsured vehicle
3)having non compliant vehicle(emissions, windshield wipers, brakes,etc)
4) speeding

and finally getting the speed recertified @ 19.9 mph

also if your driving privileges are currently suspended or revoked you cannot drive any motor vehicle & a LSV is classified as a motor vehicle

LSVs and Golf Carts are not the same under the law. I wish someone could give me a reference for this 19.9 nonsense.

By Florida Statute, an LSV has a speed limitation of 25 MPH and a golf cart has a speed limitation of 20 MPH.

billethkid 05-28-2015 10:52 AM

The police should keep a dedicated force to do nothing but watch for moving violations in TV. The force will easily pay for itself.

The more tickets and the higher the cost the better.

At some point TV will gain a reputation for strict traffic violation enforcement and everybody will respond according.

Just like we all do when we get to those little towns where we KNOW if you go one mile over the speed limit you will get a ticket.

Congrats to the increased enforcement and let's be good itizens and call and thank the appropriate law enforcement office and offer words to keep up the good work.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-28-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1066385)
LSVs and Golf Carts are not the same under the law. I wish someone could give me a reference for this 19.9 nonsense.

By Florida Statute, an LSV has a speed limitation of 25 MPH and a golf cart has a speed limitation of 20 MPH.


From the link that you posted:

Quote:

(22) “Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.
Because they have not designated that the 20 mph is on level ground or have mentioned wind conditions, every golf cart in The Villages is illegal. As I have pointed out, they are all capable of going over 20 mph down hill.

Again, as far as I know there are no speed limits for golf carts.

If I have a cart set up to go a maximum of 18 mph on level ground with no wind and I am driving on a steep downhill and the cart gets up to 24 mph, can I be cited for exceeding the speed limit which doesn't exist? Can I be cited for having an unregistered vehicle since the fact that my cart was going 24 downhill demonstrates that it is capable of going over 20 mph?

Whoever wrote these laws was either not thinking or intentionally made them so nebulous that the police can cite you for almost anything.

karostay 05-28-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1066317)
Yesterday 20 speeding tickets were issued on Morse north of 466. 3 were issued to golf carts. :coolsmiley:

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

About time

2BNTV 05-28-2015 11:21 AM

My electric cart computer allows for a max speed of 19.5 mph. In reality, it goes about 18 MPH. I have notice my cart slows down when going downhill, as if it has some sort of governor attached.

I can honestly say I very rarely take a trip in my golf cart and someone doesn't pass me going above 20 MPH. In some case way over the 20 MPH speed limit.

I personally take comfort in knowing I can never get a speeding ticket in my golf cart.

BTW - Some people think "stop signs" are suggestions, and have seen many people go thru them. Sometimes, without even making an attempt, to stop. Police will give you a ticket for what is considered a "rolling stop". That's when you wheels are still moving going thru a stop sign, but not a full stop.

I'm sure that many tickets are issued to cars than golf carts, but they is a large amount of people who have carts, that consistently exceed the speed limit. IMHO

I wonder what some people do with the couple of minutes they save after speeding to a location. Probably relax from the strain of looking over their shoulder and not getting caught.

Wouldn't it be easier to leave a few minutes earlier? :D

Just sayin.............

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-28-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1066380)
If a Golf Cart is clocked going over 19.9, it is no longer a LSV-the tickets will be for the following

1)having an unregistered vehicle
2)having an uninsured vehicle
3)having non compliant vehicle(emissions, windshield wipers, brakes,etc)
4) speeding

and finally getting the speed recertified @ 19.9 mph

also if your driving privileges are currently suspended or revoked you cannot drive any motor vehicle & a golf cart & a LSV are both
classified as a motor vehicle

Persons over the age of 14 who do not otherwise have driving privileges are allowed to drive golf carts on designated county and municipal roads. How can driving privileges that do not exist be revoked?

ajbrown 05-28-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066393)
snipped by Alan

If I have a cart set up to go a maximum of 18 mph on level ground with no wind and I am driving on a steep downhill and the cart gets up to 24 mph, can I be cited for exceeding the speed limit which doesn't exist? Can I be cited for having an unregistered vehicle since the fact that my cart was going 24 downhill demonstrates that it is capable of going over 20 mph?

I have never found an answer to this question. Many of the old Club Carts are series carts which roll freely. Common sense says you should not be cited, but if radar is setup at the bottom of a hill, my opinion will not matter... a inexpensive speedometer will save that confusion.

DonH57 05-28-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066373)
Do you know if that's posted somewhere, Do I xan?

I see signs that say the speed limit is 20 mph unless otherwise posted, but I have never seen anything that says anything about golf cart speed limits.

There is a 10 mph limit on part of Avienda although I've never seen it enforced. I can swear there are a couple 15 mph limits but I don't remember where.

mulligan 05-28-2015 01:00 PM

10mph over the bridge at Lake Sumter

newguyintv 05-28-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1066317)
Yesterday 20 speeding tickets were issued on Morse north of 466. 3 were issued to golf carts. :coolsmiley:

Glad to see that enforcement is actually happening. Now that we are on the subject of Morse Blvd, it should be noted that this one street has two of the most hazardous locations for golf cart traffic. Everyone knows about the crossover at Morse and 466, a situation made for disasters. Also, does anyone agree that the Morse traffic circle at 441 is very dangerous for golf carts that have to go either 1/2 or 3/4 around it to get to their exit cart path. Another disaster waiting to happen.

outlaw 05-28-2015 01:14 PM

How many of you goodie-two-shoes exceed the 10 mph speed limit over the Sumter Landing bridge? If you celebrate someone getting a ticket for going 21 mph down Morse blvd., you have some serious issues.

newguyintv 05-28-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1066445)
How many of you goodie-two-shoes exceed the 10 mph speed limit over the Sumter Landing bridge? If you celebrate someone getting a ticket for going 21 mph down Morse blvd., you have some serious issues.

Are you talking about Cars or Golf Carts. The golf cart lanes on the bridge are so narrow that someone is bound to be killed there eventually. And by the way, why would anyone be ticketed for going 21 on a road whose speed limit is higher than that. OH, you mean golf carts whose max speed limit on public streets is 20 mph. Golf cart going 21 mph is like a car going 40 in a 35 mph zone. Both should be ticketed.

DonH57 05-28-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 1066442)
Glad to see that enforcement is actually happening. Now that we are on the subject of Morse Blvd, it should be noted that this one street has two of the most hazardous locations for golf cart traffic. Everyone knows about the crossover at Morse and 466, a situation made for disasters. Also, does anyone agree that the Morse traffic circle at 441 is very dangerous for golf carts that have to go either 1/2 or 3/4 around it to get to their exit cart path. Another disaster waiting to happen.

The only problem I've had at the crossover is cars punching the gas to pass me when I signal to move over and they were at least 400 feet back or more and they blast the horn and salute me. Cars going around the roundabout don't signal they are cutting right and turn at the last second.

njbchbum 05-28-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066393)
From the link that you posted:

Because they have not designated that the 20 mph is on level ground or have mentioned wind conditions, every golf cart in The Villages is illegal. As I have pointed out, they are all capable of going over 20 mph down hill.

Again, as far as I know there are no speed limits for golf carts.

If I have a cart set up to go a maximum of 18 mph on level ground with no wind and I am driving on a steep downhill and the cart gets up to 24 mph, can I be cited for exceeding the speed limit which doesn't exist? Can I be cited for having an unregistered vehicle since the fact that my cart was going 24 downhill demonstrates that it is capable of going over 20 mph?

Whoever wrote these laws was either not thinking or intentionally made them so nebulous that the police can cite you for almost anything.


My golly, Doc! Doesn't your cart have brakes to keep it from exceeding 20mph on the downhill or anywhere else?

Do you coast down West Boone or St. Andrews or Mark in your car without applying the brakes?

DonH57 05-28-2015 02:38 PM

I don't know about Doc's cart but I took off my old brakes yesterday. The new ones will be in saturday or so.


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